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50k x $15 per month = $750k. At least that's how I'm reading it.
1. Kyleran suggested that the total number of people who would unsubscribe from World of Warcraft over this RealID issue would not surpass 50k. (i.e. 50,000 current WoW players would cancel their subscriptions citing the use of real names on the forums as the main reason.)
2. Coman suggested that a loss of $750,000.00 per month in revenue (50,000 x ~$15/mth) should be enough to get Blizzard's (Activision's) attention. (Note that this equates to an annual loss of roughly $9m.)
3. You're confusing the number of subscribers with the revenue they generate.
4. Cancelled (Expires: Jul 24, 2010)
LOL you knuckle head. Practising good internet security includes not giving out your real name.
If you want them to listen then you need to unsub AND wait. If Blizzard sees 50k subscribers gone, then how much does that really matter when most of them is more likely to come back again?
TBC is going to end WoW, they will lose subs.
WoTLK is going to end WoW, they will lose subs.
Cataclysm is going to end WoW, they will lose subs.
That's always been the word of mouth, but nevertheless it seems to be far from the truth.
Eleanor Rigby.
He said 50k players, Coman says that equals 750 000 dollars, that blizzard would be losing. i think..
Currently Playing Path of Exile
Overall, I see more harm than good coming from something like this. I could go on and on about the flaws, but Ive already done that in several areas, and to be honest, its wearing me thin. Lol.
Actually it all makes sense now . With cataclysm close they most likely will get back 50% of the WoW addicts who cancelled their subscription. Smart move money wise actually . But nonetheless , let's not be demoralized by that. Stand and make a front!
Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.
1) So what we will have is people afraid of posting garbage because their future boss may be watching?
2) You only see harm because you don't know how it's going to turn out.
We all know equally little about their new system, yet people start to judge it already. Ignorance?
The real question is if the reward outmatches the risk, and that's something we're going to have to wait and see about.
Eleanor Rigby.
Plus payments from transfers, character changes, authenticators, advertising (ads of forum) and those pets. Plus a lot will have more than 1 account.
If cataclysm turns out bad this has a good chance of ending wow (the previous expansions were made before the Activision take-over remember, Activision also ruined CoD). Especially with ToR on the way which is looking very good.
peoples front and boycott is gonna fail.so the unsub is that "high",everyday day they get new subs.And with the new expansion is coming.The fallout of this is gonna be really thin.So stick up to the man,it doesnt help.
Plus not everyone pays the same.
Eleanor Rigby.
compared to the roughly 165,000,000+transfers etc there still making ya i doubt they will give a crap.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
ROFL! How ironic.
YOU may be willing to be a participant in this social experiment of Blizzard's... I am not. Like the poster you quoted, I see no good coming from this. The potential for harm far outweighs any potential for good.
A cessation of trolling on their forums? Not going to happen. An increase in accountability from their posters? Not going to happen. A potential source of additional revenue? Absolutely.
There's a pretty common adage here in N.A. ... "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Try looking at the precedent being set and not the fine details of this situation.
If blizzard thinks it is a good idea to share your personal information on the forums, what is to say they might next think it is a good idea to share it in game. Like when someone inspects you they pull up your real id information?
Blizzard obviously has some master plan behind all this email as a account ID and real id scheme, but so far it has been a poorly thought out and poorly implemented idea. This is an issue of trust with your personal information and blizzard is breaking that.
sharing ingame real id´s,that will never happen.Im not that worried about that either,since 5 years ago,when i created my account,all the info is fake.
1) Don't use the forums then.
2) If you don't know the endgame, then just sit idle and watch as it unfolds.
3) Again, you don't know the endgame, so just wait and see.
4) While I think trolling will be reduced, the forums won't be troll-free.
5) I was hoping that people would realise that they are at risk, name or not. If Blizzard were smart about this they'd reintroduce the requirement of using an athenticator to post on the forums, that way you won't have 'hackers' and especially not hackers posting on the forums with your name.
6) Of course, like any company their goal is to make money, it ain't a charity. When I think Blizzard I still think about the good community and how well they handled the game, so my patience is an added bonus they get beyond my money. If they let me down big time though, then I will be a bit more close-minded next time.
7) Agreed, but people forget that saying.
I hope this turns out good and I also hope that the Blizzard Authenticator becomes a requirement.
Eleanor Rigby.
I just hope for you your account never gets hacked/keylogged because you won't be able to recover it than. (unless i missed something in their policies)
Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.
You're a math wizard?
If you start a boycott, you need to be clear about your expectations for privacy are: both on how your real identity is used publically and how it is handled behind the scenes.
You need to identify where the conflict of interest that gave rise to this policy rests. For sake of argument, let's assume that the decisions in the boardroom being driven by the potential profit of selling access to their databases of personal information through Facebook/Massive. Are you ok with the private sale of your data to unknown marketting firms as long as nothing is publically revealed to other players? If not and if you could actually generate a protest large and loud enough to put the profitability of the move in doubt, what steps would ensure that this doesn't happen again in six months under a different rollout strategy?
And for other companies watching and potentially reaching out to disgruntled WoW players, are there core principles in a privacy policy that you expect to see?
5 years with the same password,and no authenticator.im not that worried.If they hack it.Its just a game
*taps mic* is this on... one two one two....
RIght now there are several hundreds WoW forums out there and i can not say that Blizzard's own have been any better or worse then most other i have run across. So i will do what most SANE and BALANCED people will do. Just stop posting on the Blizzard forums. Heck i know a few games who did not have/do not have forums. And guess what... You could still play those games.
"What about the tech forum" i can hear Billy yelling form the back.... Yeah what about it. It was a from Blizzards pov third rate source after the phone and webform... It is not like they take away your ability to contact Blizzard.
But sure do a boycot... line up with your signs outside Blizz HQ... Unsub or cancel. It is a free democracy after all. But don't make it sound like this is some new plot by Dictators INC.
This have been a good conversation
Never happen?
From what I understand, it definitely will. Anyone on your Real ID list is connected to others on that trusted list...only you aren't going to know everyone on THEIR list...thus your real name will be exposed IN GAME to people you don't even know. I'm not that trusting, sorry. AND thre is NO guarantee this won't go further...in fact, they even hint at more to come in what they have said.
As for having fake account info, I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of players have NOT given fake identity info to Blizzard, as they use their credit/debit cards to pay for it. Most of us do this in whatever game we play, based on TRUST that such information is protected from possible hackers. You are WARNED to NOT use your real name when you log in, for God's sake, which makes this even MORE insane.
I'll probably get hammered for what I am about to say, but here goes...it is my guess that the posters who are shrugging this off and even ridiculing others who are upset about it are primarily young guys, who have also not had to endure any stalking of any kind or any identity theft and have the youthful attitude that it happens to others, not me, so why worry. The others are most likely older folks who know bad crap DOES happen to ANYONE, who have either personally endured stalking situations or identity theft, or known someone who has, and they know right off the bat that this is not a joke, it is very dangerous, and it sets a gaming precedent that could very well be adopted by OTHER games just to make more money.
A line has to be drawn somewhere.
And consider this...if posting someone's real name had no value and means nothing and isn't a threat....then why bother doing it? It's precisely because your real name DOES have value and meaning, it gives them a fear factor for at least a period of time and also will garner their marketing department more target names via the Facebook link for them to try and suck in for more money, the consequences to us and others be damned. You then become collateral damage in this ongoing war to have the right over ownership of your very name....wind up getting hacked? tough. your friends and family getting spammed? tough.
With respect, you are not the only one affected by this, and while you may be okay with any stranger having such access to you name, a lot of people aren't. Anonymizers do a big business for a reason...
If the loss is bigger then there gain they care. Even if the loss is small. They will notice and will have the figures. Now true they might not give a crap about it, with Is unlikely for an company with goal is to make profit and yes every coin counts. Still though reverting back to the old system might just cost more money then they would gain and thus for that reason they might not revert back. It might also be however that they might actually gain from it (Less spending on moderating the forums, with seems unlikely as you can just create a new account under a fake name?).
I would not boycott a game for this reason. Your sub price or initial payment does not include the right to use a forum. Therefor they should just run the forums they would prefer.
for all i care they can shutdown the forums all together.In the 5 year of playing this game,never used or need a forum.If u need a support use the webform.