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what games have the weakest end game ?
SlyGamer79
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you know what i'm talking about what games have you played that just have no real end game content or just weak as hell ya know what you didn't expect for end game content.
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WoW, I was disappoint. I excepted I would be running all wotlk raids but in the end I just ran heroics until I had the gear for ToC and ICC.. Why would anyone run Naxx or other older instances when heroics give you better gear? Of course there was Nax achi runs but you needed like full ICC gear to join the raid, if your gear score isn't over 5,5k there could be little chance for a wipe and no one does want that, they want it to be easy and fast.
I would've also wanted to enjoy the raids without the penis jokes in vent... thank god I was able to mute vent with windows and everyone though I were listening.
Finally when I had pretty good PvE gear and got bored to PvE I decided to go PvP.. but of course I got raepd because I had my PvE gear on... and of course the fastest way to get some resilience gear was running random heroics, and getting killed in pvp. Too bad I had played like 30 wsgs and only few won. Alliance was reeeeaally bad on my battlegroup, only BG where we had even a little chance was AV.
It started to feel like work after month or two, had to do all the dailies and weeklys
The game with the weakest end game is LOTRO, they came up with a few instances, but them locked them out by a gear gate, so unless you got a great guild who can help you get the gear to do the end game your end game has become solo stuff.
After that I would say eq2 now with there lates expansion fubared the end game really good and is probably why the let several of there dev staff go, and it needed it.
Endgame
WORST: EVE, Guild Wars
Best: FF, WoW
WoW has one of the best endgames. Some people might not like it, but it's very developed and tons of zones, designs, items, raids are in WoW. There are games without endgame whatsoever. That's why you can't say WoW, even if it's not your cup of tea.
I do not believe Warhammer even has an endgame haha
highly biased are we. would expect ppl to say the MMO with the worse endgame would be games without endgame.
and as for EQ2, no one have cleared all hardmodes yet, and they made a load of the raid content very casual friendly, what make EQ2 sux at the moment aint a weak endgame, as it is very flexible, but a weak day to day gameplay.
this guy obviously has no clue what he's talking about at all. For one EVE isn't the type of game to have endgame it keeps on going, it would take 20 some odd years to train all the skills to level 5 so EVE doesn't have the worst endgame it can't because it doesn't have an endgame.
that is all. o/
Right, so you agree, the worst endgame is EVE. Having no endgame = worst endgame in my book.
No endgame is the best endgame.
The best feature a game can have is the inability to reach a level cap.
Endless grind? nope, actually playing a game for the ride and experience? yup.
"In life we are all turds, some sink and some float but in the end we all get flushed."
what i'm trying to say is that this thread should only apply to games that have endgame, you know like themeparks, sandboxes really aren't made with endgame in mind cause you do what you want to and you make your own life with in the game. it's really not in a sandboxes game mechanics to have an endgame.
I've played some failed MMO's like Tabula Rasa and Auto Assault that had little to no endgame content. Out of the successful MMO's, I'd say City of Heroes. I love that game, but there just isn't much to do once you hit level 50.
Hmm, those were all NCSoft games...
For me: Warhammer Online.
Well, yeah.. never got in the endgame on games without endgame really. I had been playing WoW before and I actually enjoyed TBC. In wotlk I don't see tons of zones, I see only Dalaran, dungeons, raids and battlegrounds. It really feels like lobby-based game. Also after like 10 ICC runs it starts to get boring. I liked leveling and wotlk zones but I was just simply disappoint to wotlk endgame
The worst end games for me would have to be Earth and Beyond, Shadowbane, and Auto Assault. Yep, those games ended while I was still having fun. For all the other games, I have no trouble being able to cancel my subs.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
It depends on what you like at the end game. Its really all about preferences.
what games have the weakest end game ?
The MMO that has a full foccus on "endgame"
Meaning most current MMORPG's so-called A-tittle's seem to turn into just online combat games
IMO
Worst Warhammer online
Best Dark age of camelot
searching for the next DAoC....
Kay-exile
Best endgame: EvE Online, the whole of the game is endgame.
Worst endgame: Any gear grinder, you go on raids to get gear so you can go on raids to get yet more gear so you can go on raids to get yet more gear.
F2P/P2P excellent thread.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/282517/F2P-An-Engineers-perspective.html
Any game with the end game having raids is weak. There should be more to do than grind away the same dungeons over and over again just to get gear to go to the next dungeon and repeat.
Star wars galaxies end game was pritty stagnet from everyone on every server flaming and leaving after the nge. That was kinda a bad thing. That suxed. I think its endgame would have been better if things would have been different. The one thing about swg was there was at least something to always look at when you went hunting/exploring like player cities or sellers tents. On my server bloodfin, there was always thousands of updated seller tents on naboo. The planet was always so bright and fun to play in. It was truly a fantasy planet. Every where you could go looked like the garden of eden.
GW for worst end game. Ive heard alot of complaints about it, but this one is new to me. A game where 85-90% of the content is desighned for the lvl cap and doesnt require a ton of people, and thats your idea of worst end-game. Please either elaborate on this or let me know what drugs you are/arent taking.
Oh and have to agree with the people here mentioning any game with tiered gear grinding through dungeons as being a pretty sorry end game.
if you think the end game is bad, i can only imagine what you would say about the leveling process.
I thought it was bad before , but now it's just unreal. Everyone afk's their way throughout the whole game.
I'd say WoW endgame is fairly weak. Really isin't much to do once your 90 at all compared to say Eq2, and Anarchy Online.
"An MMORPG could be completely diffirent from WoW. Just look at games like Dofus, Wizard101 or EVE. But as it is, most of the Western MMOs are trying to succeed by out-WoWing WoW. It's like an army of 10 sports games made about same sports, and barely none about other sports. WoW clone is an accurate description of those games, it manages to convey much information with only two words."
-Poster on mmorpg.com
Rift: World of Warcraft clone #9321 Nothing special to see here move along.
City of Heroes and DDO
As I've said CoH/V is one of my favorite games and I think leveling alts is pretty fun since they're so varied. But at cap you kind of just have to reach out to the community for more things to do. A level 50 in that game is mostly just a tool to help other people get there. Which is a bit of endgame, just nothing like WoW or even EQ1.
DDO you literally beat the game. It's only real end game is starting over with more points.
There's been a lot of games I played that were just bad by mid level so I couldn't tell you.
I kill other players because they're smarter than AI, sometimes.
WoW has one of the best endgames. Some people might not like it, but it's very developed and tons of zones, designs, items, raids are in WoW. There are games without endgame whatsoever. That's why you can't say WoW, even if it's not your cup of tea.
Yes, WoW, especially right now, is very valid. Its endgame is atrocious.I consider endgame as 'ways to advance your character at max level'
here is what you have for WoW:
grinding extremely boring dungeons you have been running for 2 years for emblems to get gear.
running the 4 'newer' dungeons.
running ICC
Thats not the full story though. Of all the dungeons, including the newer ones, they are all short and take from 10-20 minutes to complete. None take more than 30 minutes.
Only ONE is remotely challenging
And what makes it worse? Ulduar is one of the greatest raids ever created. But they have made gear you get from the easy 5 mans BETTER then what you can get there. So no one has any desire to run it. ToC could perhaps be an alternate method of gearing, but the dungeons are easier so people just do that.