thats why there are laws for it nowadays ( atleast in europe) that forces factorys to give a minimal of 3 years live expectancy warranty when used normaly ( open to discussion what normaly is...)
3 years (atm) is a long life span for a PC. But it all depends where you buy in the price/power scale. Buying today's supersupersuperhightechwowowowOMGOMG stuff with be ludicrisly overpriced and will be only average in about 24 months, then will be mid-low after 36 months. It was only 3 years that the AMD 6000+ was top of the line...
Anyways, OP you asked for reccomendations - is this to build your own??? or for a pre-built one?
Anyways, for a great value look for:
AMD 1090T processor (Its the best processor for value for money, its got 6 cores (i7's in the same value only have 4, but have 8 threads. look it up why you should go for the 6 cores are better than 4core/8thread)
AMD 3 motherboard with 2 PCI express slots DDR3
8GB of DDR3 RAM (the DDR3 part is important. RAM has a clock speed like a processor. look for a speed of atleast 1333Mhz. the higher the better. but for this also check out the "FSB" or "Bus" speed on motherboard - components above. the MB should have a bus speed higher or equal to the RAM speed.)
graphics cards are a tricky issue. ATI are current kings of GPU and are good valued. The 5970 being their top card. Then the 5870 then the 5850. You should prehaps look to buy 2 cards a bit further down the line. (Side note: 2 5850's are the same price as one 5970, and at stock are nearly as powerful, but for "futureproofing" you will almost certinaly want to buy one 5970 if your budget will let you)
You should probably look to use your current hard drive(s) if you can - check whether you have IDE or Sata in your current PC and then that will help give you an idea for what you will want on your motherboard. I would still reccomend buying a new Harddrive if your budget allows for it.
Case. There are lots of very good cases out there. Antec are highly regarded as very good at cooling and are not TOO expesive. Make sure you look at the dimension. The Antec 1200, while awesome; is awesomely HUGE!
Some cases will come with a PSU included. If you can, look to get 850Watt to 1000watt. But dont buy this cheap.
Anyways, thats a quick guide to buying right now. If you do decide to build it yourself just google "How to install RAM" "How to install processor to motherboard" Etc etc. It's not that difficult really
Good luck!
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Well it is techically illegal but it saves you 200 bucks! your choice. im guessing u dont have windows 7 but if you bought it for another comp u can use that.
a couple rules:
if your buying a component for more than 200 read its reviews. you really dont want to spend big bucks on crap. and believe me even high end tech companies will try to rip you off *cough* Gigabyte X58A-UD9 *cough*. thats a $700 motherboard thats the same as a $200 one and it comes from a reputable company.
the website i listed is really good for having a pretty unbiased review on things as well as a breakdown of what your really getting.
i wouldnt worry about features such as "dual BIOS" "overclocking" etc. They are for those that like pushing performance to the edge. U dont need that. With what I listed you can run any game at 60 fps save maybe crysis on full specs. ff14 should be no problem.
thats why there are laws for it nowadays ( atleast in europe) that forces factorys to give a minimal of 3 years live expectancy warranty when used normaly ( open to discussion what normaly is...)
3 years (atm) is a long life span for a PC. But it all depends where you buy in the price/power scale. Buying today's supersupersuperhightechwowowowOMGOMG stuff with be ludicrisly overpriced and will be only average in about 24 months, then will be mid-low after 36 months. It was only 3 years that the AMD 6000+ was top of the line...
Anyways, OP you asked for reccomendations - is this to build your own??? or for a pre-built one?
Anyways, for a great value look for:
AMD 1090T processor (Its the best processor for value for money, its got 6 cores (i7's in the same value only have 4, but have 8 threads. look it up why you should go for the 6 cores are better than 4core/8thread)
AMD 3 motherboard with 2 PCI express slots DDR3
8GB of DDR3 RAM (the DDR3 part is important. RAM has a clock speed like a processor. look for a speed of atleast 1333Mhz. the higher the better. but for this also check out the "FSB" or "Bus" speed on motherboard - components above. the MB should have a bus speed higher or equal to the RAM speed.)
graphics cards are a tricky issue. ATI are current kings of GPU and are good valued. The 5970 being their top card. Then the 5870 then the 5850. You should prehaps look to buy 2 cards a bit further down the line. (Side note: 2 5850's are the same price as one 5970, and at stock are nearly as powerful, but for "futureproofing" you will almost certinaly want to buy one 5970 if your budget will let you)
You should probably look to use your current hard drive(s) if you can - check whether you have IDE or Sata in your current PC and then that will help give you an idea for what you will want on your motherboard. I would still reccomend buying a new Harddrive if your budget allows for it.
Case. There are lots of very good cases out there. Antec are highly regarded as very good at cooling and are not TOO expesive. Make sure you look at the dimension. The Antec 1200, while awesome; is awesomely HUGE!
Some cases will come with a PSU included. If you can, look to get 850Watt to 1000watt. But dont buy this cheap.
Anyways, thats a quick guide to buying right now. If you do decide to build it yourself just google "How to install RAM" "How to install processor to motherboard" Etc etc. It's not that difficult really
Good luck!
actually im just pretty lost right now. Many said It would be best to buy a pre-built pc. However I would like to try building my own. Im not so much looking for reccomendations as I am looking for a complete list of everything to buy like theinhibitor gave. As it doesnt matter explaining the different options, your post was largely just a big mess of numbers and random letters to me...which is exactly what I see when I try this on my own.
He mentioned the Intel i7 970 so I figured I would start from there on newegg...but that alone is 900 bucks.
antec? puleez. they run their marketing dept like apple. they are TOO expensive. A case is a case. u could technically make a case from a whisky bottle:
Designed by BMW and prob the sickest case ive seen lol.
Yeah i forgot about AMD though I have had better performance with intel. 6 cores generates more heat so you will need better ventilation or cooling and six cores isnt needed really. But its your pick.
actually im just pretty lost right now. Many said It would be best to buy a pre-built pc. However I would like to try building my own. Im not so much looking for reccomendations as I am looking for a complete list of everything to buy like theinhibitor gave. As it doesnt matter explaining the different options, your post was largely just a big mess of numbers and random letters to me...which is exactly what I see when I try this on my own.
He mentioned the Intel i7 970 so I figured I would start from there on newegg...but that alone is 900 bucks.
yeah thats the 3.2 GHz model u prob want this one:
Don't know if anyone else mentioned this earlier, but if there is a fry's or other computer component store around, see if they have a return policy. If they have decent prices and a forgiving return policy, you could always buy what you think will work and then return the things that don't. This is how I built my first comp a while back, before I understtod the difference between SATA and IDE (ha ha! you'll find out soon enough).
Newegg is amazing, and both Nvidia and ATI for graphics cards are exceptional. I'm not up to times on what's the best, but either should do the trick.
I'd recommend getting a real copy of windows 7, but that's because i've had crappy experiences with bootleg OS's and have am part of a student organization that has access to windows 7 for $70.
if the list is needed again, it is: case, power supply, motherboard, processor, processor fan, graphics card, memory(RAM), hard drive, dvd disk drive.
Somebody said something about water cooling, but just as a note, if you don't know what you are doing making a computer, its best to stay away from water cooling. Shits insane. Insanely unnecessary for 900-1300 setups.
If you live near the Bay Area, i can walk you through it in person. I'm about to build a 900-1300 ballpark computer for a friend of mine, so this will be right up your alley. Small chance, but it's worth a shot.
With you mentioning "bucks" as your money i can't really help with much but i can say what you would need and give a website where you can get an idea of things from.
1. Motherboard & Processor - the socket type needs to match (AM3 etc)
2. RAM - This is your main memory and again needs to match the type on your motherboard (1033mhz DDR3 for example)
3. Video Card - Personal preference as to what make you buy as long as it goes on M/B, usually PCI express x16 etc
4. Hard Drive - MUST HAVE unlike another poster putting optional, can't boot up a computer from nothing.
5. CD/DVD drive - again must have if building from scratch so you can install system and other software/games.
6. Case to put it all in, i'd reccomend the Antec 900 or the Antec 1200, good cases and no need for extra cooling to be bought.
7. Power Supply - I prefer Tagen and currently use a Tagen 500w
speakers you can pick up for as little as $5 i reccon seeing as over here they can be got for around £2 - £50+ depending on what you get.
My Rig :
Motherboard - Asus M2NSli-Deluxe
CPU - AMD Athlon X2 64 3GHz socket AM2
RAM - Corsair pro 2GB (2x 1gb sticks)
Video Card - XFX GeForce 8600GT 512mb PCI-E x16
Hard Drive - 250gb
CD/DVD - generic DVD re-writer
Case - Antex 900
Power - Tagen 500w (good power distribution management and works well for my needs)
all these parts i bought from www.cclonline.com (UK based) and built myself, when Age of Conan came out and everyone with quad core and "uber" machines was whining about lag and glitches and such i was running circles around them laughing at my rig outperforming them.
As an indication of price my Rig cost me £600 about 2-3 years ago.
See if newegg has a service of ordering parts and building your comp from ordering those parts. That can be the middle-line between you doing the building yourself and being subjected to being ripped off. If not them, see if others have it. I know you are afraid of shorting out and blowing out a part...but take it from me, once you learn to build a PC, you will never want to go back. It become fantastic what you learn and do with it. ^_^
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Copy and paste from my shopping cart on amazon.com. I know theres no case (didnt really know which to get) but do I need anything else than whats on this list? The total is up to 1069.96, this is from theinhibitors setup
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Considering you've had Dell for a while why break a good habit.
Alienware are good machine but are expensive for what they do.
For my mind don't count out the XPS range from Dell, you can get a simular spec'd machine for 100's less.
If your an AMD fan go for the 7100, Intel the 8100 either offer much better price per $ than an Alienware. Personally I like the AMD/ATI mix of the 7100 but take a look for yourself.
I've built PC's for years, worked in IT for just as long building your own PC is a lot of work and research, if I was to buy a pre-built machine I'd recommend a Dell and the XPS offer good price/performance mix
Honestly bro, honestly. Go prebuilt, by the way you sound it doesn't seem like you really want to go through with building it yourself. And, here's another pointer, stay away from every pre-builder these guys have mentioned especially Alienware I can tell you a lot of people that have gotten ripped off. Also Velocity MIcro builds some pretty expensive rigs that aren't worth it. Look check this out. This is Digital Storm. They have an A+ with the BBB, and their customers are always satisfied. Look here is a link to the forums http://digitalstormonline.com/forums/. Look around in there, you will see nothing but loyal and happy customers that help each other out. You could even post for help in the configuration discussions and all the forum's elite posters will help out lol we even have an oc'ing elite on there this dude has placed world records. The price with Digital Storm isn't too much more expensive then building yourself, but listen here you get a 3 year warranty right off the bat, and lifetime labor and customer service, which if you look at the BBB with their A+ and all the experience I have had with them their customer service is top of the line. Not only that, but with the basic build you will get you will also get a free overclock up to around 3.5-3.8ghz. Look bro here is a ticket number 429185, just look at the top of the site and click load configuration then put the number in. This build has the GTX 465 gpu by Nvidia which is based of their new fermi software and will run new DX11 games, this is what you want if you want to future proof yourself. Don't cut yourself short with a gt 240. Or here's a little more powerful setup with the ATI radeon 5850, but it's a little more expensive 429186. Or here's a cheaper build with the 5770, 429187.
If you need to go cheaper go with the 460, but dude honestly if you want a great gaming pc with optimum build, optimum customer service, optimum performance, and a great warranty. Then Digital Storm is the way to go. Go post on the forums if you don't trust my builds or just want some more people's opinions, there is a lot of knowledgeable people on there man so go check it out. Lol if you wanna hit me up my name is WardTheSteak on the forums.
Haha, I noticed that as I was typing it. No, lol I just had a great experience man, and I know that this is your money we're playing with right now and ill-advice can lead you to bad situations with it. I could post some pics of my rig if you wanted to see it lol.
The core i5 fits on the lga1156 socket with the p55 boards and the i7 fits on the lga1366 socket with the x58 boards. The i7 are a bit more high end, but with overclocking thrown into the equation you will get more performance out of your i5, except that is if you overclocked the 920, but its a tricky and rigorous process to do on your own. Too much prime95 lol, "it's a form of stress test".
If you live in the UK anywhere near Leics, give me a PM and I'll be happy to give you a hand.
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
The core i5 fits on the lga1156 socket with the p55 boards and the i7 fits on the lga1366 socket with the x58 boards. The i7 are a bit more high end, but with overclocking thrown into the equation you will get more performance out of your i5, except that is if you overclocked the 920, but its a tricky and rigorous process to do on your own. Too much prime95 lol, "it's a form of stress test".
In regards to the build you said was more high end (its the one im looking at right now) would it be difficult to build a computer of this caliber for the same price? And should I change/add anything to this if I wanted to go this way?
Well, it wouldn't be too difficult but it is a process. And, the problem is if you get a rig that doesn't work properly or you have a faulty product then you could be out of luck. But, if I were to build it myself I would stick around the same lines, it would only end up costing you around 1100 or so, and maybe try to get a beefier gpu, but one thing is you're gonna be missing an overclock which can boost your performance by over 50% easy, and would you be willing to try to learn and overclock on your own?
Well, it wouldn't be too difficult but it is a process. And, the problem is if you get a rig that doesn't work properly or you have a faulty product then you could be out of luck. But, if I were to build it myself I would stick around the same lines, it would only end up costing you around 1100 or so, and maybe try to get a beefier gpu, but one thing is you're gonna be missing an overclock which can boost your performance by over 50% easy, and would you be willing to try to learn and overclock on your own?
Naw I think ill just go with the computer you linked to, the 429186 ticket. But is there anything I should add or change? I would like a new keyboard/mouse/speakers as well since I will be giving my current computer to my sis and she would need them. Are the options they give pretty good or should I just find something separate?
Did you say you were looking for a new monitor? If so they have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and speaker bundle that is worth the price, but if not then no I would just go on newegg and get some individual components here and there. They will generally have better prices for that there, and now that I think about it you said you already have a monitor, so lol I would just go to newegg. The only thing I would do on this rig is if you want to ensure maybe some beefire upgrades down the line like a gpu in the next 3 to 4 years or so, then I would get a 750w power supply.
Also, one more thing, the best air cooled chasis at your budget is the haf 922, if you didn't mind throwing 48 dollars there, that is a worthy investment. That baby is beast when it comes to air cooling.
Did you say you were looking for a new monitor? If so they have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and speaker bundle that is worth the price, but if not then no I would just go on newegg and get some individual components here and there. They will generally have better prices for that there, and now that I think about it you said you already have a monitor, so lol I would just go to newegg. The only thing I would do on this rig is if you want to ensure maybe some beefire upgrades down the line like a gpu in the next 3 to 4 years or so, then I would get a 750w power supply.
thx ill take a look on newegg, I noticed there were a fee free options like "OS boost" and "video Boost". Should I add those in as well?
The thing is, with the video boost you might get a little bit of a performance booster there, but they generally don't overclock their videocards that high. So yeah, you could select that and notice maybe a little performance boost, and OS boost they will cut out some unnecesary things from the os and stuff to make it perform a little better, but some people argue that you should just keep it and tweak it to your preferences. But, if you're not the type of person to go into your OS and tweak things and nitpick to get optimum performance then sure I would go with it.
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3 years (atm) is a long life span for a PC. But it all depends where you buy in the price/power scale. Buying today's supersupersuperhightechwowowowOMGOMG stuff with be ludicrisly overpriced and will be only average in about 24 months, then will be mid-low after 36 months. It was only 3 years that the AMD 6000+ was top of the line...
Anyways, OP you asked for reccomendations - is this to build your own??? or for a pre-built one?
Anyways, for a great value look for:
AMD 1090T processor (Its the best processor for value for money, its got 6 cores (i7's in the same value only have 4, but have 8 threads. look it up why you should go for the 6 cores are better than 4core/8thread)
AMD 3 motherboard with 2 PCI express slots DDR3
8GB of DDR3 RAM (the DDR3 part is important. RAM has a clock speed like a processor. look for a speed of atleast 1333Mhz. the higher the better. but for this also check out the "FSB" or "Bus" speed on motherboard - components above. the MB should have a bus speed higher or equal to the RAM speed.)
graphics cards are a tricky issue. ATI are current kings of GPU and are good valued. The 5970 being their top card. Then the 5870 then the 5850. You should prehaps look to buy 2 cards a bit further down the line. (Side note: 2 5850's are the same price as one 5970, and at stock are nearly as powerful, but for "futureproofing" you will almost certinaly want to buy one 5970 if your budget will let you)
You should probably look to use your current hard drive(s) if you can - check whether you have IDE or Sata in your current PC and then that will help give you an idea for what you will want on your motherboard. I would still reccomend buying a new Harddrive if your budget allows for it.
Case. There are lots of very good cases out there. Antec are highly regarded as very good at cooling and are not TOO expesive. Make sure you look at the dimension. The Antec 1200, while awesome; is awesomely HUGE!
Some cases will come with a PSU included. If you can, look to get 850Watt to 1000watt. But dont buy this cheap.
Anyways, thats a quick guide to buying right now. If you do decide to build it yourself just google "How to install RAM" "How to install processor to motherboard" Etc etc. It's not that difficult really
Good luck!
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Well it is techically illegal but it saves you 200 bucks! your choice. im guessing u dont have windows 7 but if you bought it for another comp u can use that.
a couple rules:
if your buying a component for more than 200 read its reviews. you really dont want to spend big bucks on crap. and believe me even high end tech companies will try to rip you off *cough* Gigabyte X58A-UD9 *cough*. thats a $700 motherboard thats the same as a $200 one and it comes from a reputable company.
the website i listed is really good for having a pretty unbiased review on things as well as a breakdown of what your really getting.
i wouldnt worry about features such as "dual BIOS" "overclocking" etc. They are for those that like pushing performance to the edge. U dont need that. With what I listed you can run any game at 60 fps save maybe crysis on full specs. ff14 should be no problem.
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/how-to-tech/build-a-computer.htm
thats how to build a generic comp.
/theinhibitor/
actually im just pretty lost right now. Many said It would be best to buy a pre-built pc. However I would like to try building my own. Im not so much looking for reccomendations as I am looking for a complete list of everything to buy like theinhibitor gave. As it doesnt matter explaining the different options, your post was largely just a big mess of numbers and random letters to me...which is exactly what I see when I try this on my own.
He mentioned the Intel i7 970 so I figured I would start from there on newegg...but that alone is 900 bucks.
antec? puleez. they run their marketing dept like apple. they are TOO expensive. A case is a case. u could technically make a case from a whisky bottle:
http://metku.net/index.html?path=mods/whiskypc/index_eng3
and if you gonna spend big bucks on a case get this:
http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/sleek_computer_case_designed_b.php
Designed by BMW and prob the sickest case ive seen lol.
Yeah i forgot about AMD though I have had better performance with intel. 6 cores generates more heat so you will need better ventilation or cooling and six cores isnt needed really. But its your pick.
/theinhibitor/
yeah thats the 3.2 GHz model u prob want this one:
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=intel+i7&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=6286451710905595072&ei=Z3BaTI_rMIX2swPAqbHkDQ&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDwQ8wIwAw#
its 235 or so.
/theinhibitor/
Don't know if anyone else mentioned this earlier, but if there is a fry's or other computer component store around, see if they have a return policy. If they have decent prices and a forgiving return policy, you could always buy what you think will work and then return the things that don't. This is how I built my first comp a while back, before I understtod the difference between SATA and IDE (ha ha! you'll find out soon enough).
Newegg is amazing, and both Nvidia and ATI for graphics cards are exceptional. I'm not up to times on what's the best, but either should do the trick.
I'd recommend getting a real copy of windows 7, but that's because i've had crappy experiences with bootleg OS's and have am part of a student organization that has access to windows 7 for $70.
if the list is needed again, it is: case, power supply, motherboard, processor, processor fan, graphics card, memory(RAM), hard drive, dvd disk drive.
Somebody said something about water cooling, but just as a note, if you don't know what you are doing making a computer, its best to stay away from water cooling. Shits insane. Insanely unnecessary for 900-1300 setups.
If you live near the Bay Area, i can walk you through it in person. I'm about to build a 900-1300 ballpark computer for a friend of mine, so this will be right up your alley. Small chance, but it's worth a shot.
guess you are not an amd fan. good luck with your new rig.
With you mentioning "bucks" as your money i can't really help with much but i can say what you would need and give a website where you can get an idea of things from.
1. Motherboard & Processor - the socket type needs to match (AM3 etc)
2. RAM - This is your main memory and again needs to match the type on your motherboard (1033mhz DDR3 for example)
3. Video Card - Personal preference as to what make you buy as long as it goes on M/B, usually PCI express x16 etc
4. Hard Drive - MUST HAVE unlike another poster putting optional, can't boot up a computer from nothing.
5. CD/DVD drive - again must have if building from scratch so you can install system and other software/games.
6. Case to put it all in, i'd reccomend the Antec 900 or the Antec 1200, good cases and no need for extra cooling to be bought.
7. Power Supply - I prefer Tagen and currently use a Tagen 500w
speakers you can pick up for as little as $5 i reccon seeing as over here they can be got for around £2 - £50+ depending on what you get.
My Rig :
Motherboard - Asus M2NSli-Deluxe
CPU - AMD Athlon X2 64 3GHz socket AM2
RAM - Corsair pro 2GB (2x 1gb sticks)
Video Card - XFX GeForce 8600GT 512mb PCI-E x16
Hard Drive - 250gb
CD/DVD - generic DVD re-writer
Case - Antex 900
Power - Tagen 500w (good power distribution management and works well for my needs)
all these parts i bought from www.cclonline.com (UK based) and built myself, when Age of Conan came out and everyone with quad core and "uber" machines was whining about lag and glitches and such i was running circles around them laughing at my rig outperforming them.
As an indication of price my Rig cost me £600 about 2-3 years ago.
See if newegg has a service of ordering parts and building your comp from ordering those parts. That can be the middle-line between you doing the building yourself and being subjected to being ripped off.
If not them, see if others have it. I know you are afraid of shorting out and blowing out a part...but take it from me, once you learn to build a PC, you will never want to go back. It become fantastic what you learn and do with it. ^_^
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Copy and paste from my shopping cart on amazon.com. I know theres no case (didnt really know which to get) but do I need anything else than whats on this list? The total is up to 1069.96, this is from theinhibitors setup
Considering you've had Dell for a while why break a good habit.
Alienware are good machine but are expensive for what they do.
For my mind don't count out the XPS range from Dell, you can get a simular spec'd machine for 100's less.
Take a look here
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/desktops/desktop-studio/ct.aspx?refid=desktop-studio&s=dhs&cs=19&~ck=mn
If your an AMD fan go for the 7100, Intel the 8100 either offer much better price per $ than an Alienware. Personally I like the AMD/ATI mix of the 7100 but take a look for yourself.
I've built PC's for years, worked in IT for just as long building your own PC is a lot of work and research, if I was to buy a pre-built machine I'd recommend a Dell and the XPS offer good price/performance mix
Honestly bro, honestly. Go prebuilt, by the way you sound it doesn't seem like you really want to go through with building it yourself. And, here's another pointer, stay away from every pre-builder these guys have mentioned especially Alienware I can tell you a lot of people that have gotten ripped off. Also Velocity MIcro builds some pretty expensive rigs that aren't worth it. Look check this out. This is Digital Storm. They have an A+ with the BBB, and their customers are always satisfied. Look here is a link to the forums http://digitalstormonline.com/forums/. Look around in there, you will see nothing but loyal and happy customers that help each other out. You could even post for help in the configuration discussions and all the forum's elite posters will help out lol we even have an oc'ing elite on there this dude has placed world records. The price with Digital Storm isn't too much more expensive then building yourself, but listen here you get a 3 year warranty right off the bat, and lifetime labor and customer service, which if you look at the BBB with their A+ and all the experience I have had with them their customer service is top of the line. Not only that, but with the basic build you will get you will also get a free overclock up to around 3.5-3.8ghz. Look bro here is a ticket number 429185, just look at the top of the site and click load configuration then put the number in. This build has the GTX 465 gpu by Nvidia which is based of their new fermi software and will run new DX11 games, this is what you want if you want to future proof yourself. Don't cut yourself short with a gt 240. Or here's a little more powerful setup with the ATI radeon 5850, but it's a little more expensive 429186. Or here's a cheaper build with the 5770, 429187.
If you need to go cheaper go with the 460, but dude honestly if you want a great gaming pc with optimum build, optimum customer service, optimum performance, and a great warranty. Then Digital Storm is the way to go. Go post on the forums if you don't trust my builds or just want some more people's opinions, there is a lot of knowledgeable people on there man so go check it out. Lol if you wanna hit me up my name is WardTheSteak on the forums.
came on a little strong there, do you work for them? lol, thanks though ill give it a look.
Haha, I noticed that as I was typing it. No, lol I just had a great experience man, and I know that this is your money we're playing with right now and ill-advice can lead you to bad situations with it. I could post some pics of my rig if you wanted to see it lol.
sorry if this is over the top ignorant but whats the difference between an intel i5 and i7?
A good explanation here
http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardware/articles/48391.aspx
Basically I7 is the toprange cpu and I5 is middle class.
The core i5 fits on the lga1156 socket with the p55 boards and the i7 fits on the lga1366 socket with the x58 boards. The i7 are a bit more high end, but with overclocking thrown into the equation you will get more performance out of your i5, except that is if you overclocked the 920, but its a tricky and rigorous process to do on your own. Too much prime95 lol, "it's a form of stress test".
If you live in the UK anywhere near Leics, give me a PM and I'll be happy to give you a hand.
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In regards to the build you said was more high end (its the one im looking at right now) would it be difficult to build a computer of this caliber for the same price? And should I change/add anything to this if I wanted to go this way?
Sorry I live in the US.
Well, it wouldn't be too difficult but it is a process. And, the problem is if you get a rig that doesn't work properly or you have a faulty product then you could be out of luck. But, if I were to build it myself I would stick around the same lines, it would only end up costing you around 1100 or so, and maybe try to get a beefier gpu, but one thing is you're gonna be missing an overclock which can boost your performance by over 50% easy, and would you be willing to try to learn and overclock on your own?
Naw I think ill just go with the computer you linked to, the 429186 ticket. But is there anything I should add or change? I would like a new keyboard/mouse/speakers as well since I will be giving my current computer to my sis and she would need them. Are the options they give pretty good or should I just find something separate?
Did you say you were looking for a new monitor? If so they have a keyboard, mouse, monitor, and speaker bundle that is worth the price, but if not then no I would just go on newegg and get some individual components here and there. They will generally have better prices for that there, and now that I think about it you said you already have a monitor, so lol I would just go to newegg. The only thing I would do on this rig is if you want to ensure maybe some beefire upgrades down the line like a gpu in the next 3 to 4 years or so, then I would get a 750w power supply.
Also, one more thing, the best air cooled chasis at your budget is the haf 922, if you didn't mind throwing 48 dollars there, that is a worthy investment. That baby is beast when it comes to air cooling.
thx ill take a look on newegg, I noticed there were a fee free options like "OS boost" and "video Boost". Should I add those in as well?
The thing is, with the video boost you might get a little bit of a performance booster there, but they generally don't overclock their videocards that high. So yeah, you could select that and notice maybe a little performance boost, and OS boost they will cut out some unnecesary things from the os and stuff to make it perform a little better, but some people argue that you should just keep it and tweak it to your preferences. But, if you're not the type of person to go into your OS and tweak things and nitpick to get optimum performance then sure I would go with it.