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the beta runs like crap help!

DaftDaft Member UncommonPosts: 171

ok i got the game running on lowest specs and its not smooth at all. My question is what would be the most cheap thing to upgrade on my system? Im broke but i can run every other game just fine.

Windows XP 32bit

Core2 duo 2.80GHz

4gig ram

Geforce 9500GT 1gig model

got an ok motherboard

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  • EtraEtra Member UncommonPosts: 164

    Your computer should run the game fine. There's currently a major bug with nvidia and ati cards (well, what other cards are there? lol) that makes the game run like complete garbage. People with older ATI cards are having their GPU literally reaching 84C and melting.

    Wait until they fix the problem and see how it works then.

  • DaftDaft Member UncommonPosts: 171

    I hope your right. If all else fails i can allways wait for the ps3 verson to come out.

    I found the game runs better when i use my ps3 controller in place of the mouse and keyboard.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449

    Originally posted by Etra

    Your computer should run the game fine. There's currently a major bug with nvidia and ati cards (well, what other cards are there? lol) that makes the game run like complete garbage. People with older ATI cards are having their GPU literally reaching 84C and melting.

    Wait until they fix the problem and see how it works then.

    LOL?

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Well, the only thing you could upgrade without too much hassle is the video card. Nothing too expensive, probably a GTX 200 series, anything more will waste your money because your CPU will bottleneck it.

    He who keeps his cool best wins.

  • WolfenprideWolfenpride Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 3,988

    I think the bottom recommended card was something ilke a Geforce 9600 GT, or a better option the 9800 GT? For nvidia cards anyways.

    your processor should be good i think at low settings, as the minimum recommended is a Core Duo 2.0Ghz

    I guess you could try upgrading yoru video card, but make sure your power supply can supply enough power to them.

    No idea if your OS might impact the performance or not =s

  • DoomedfoxDoomedfox Member UncommonPosts: 679

    If u decide to upgrade the Video card and dont mind if u have an Nvidia or ATI card than it would be best to wait till October the Prices for ATI cards will drop than (since the 6xxx series is supposed to launch short time after) if u can afford it go for a 5870 but if its too expansive a 5770 should offer more than enough power as well (got about 5k points with a 5770 on low running the Benchmark test)

  • EtraEtra Member UncommonPosts: 164

    Originally posted by Wolfenpride

    I think the bottom recommended card was something ilke a Geforce 9600 GT, or a better option the 9800 GT? For nvidia cards anyways.

    your processor should be good i think at low settings, as the minimum recommended is a Core Duo 2.0Ghz

    I guess you could try upgrading yoru video card, but make sure your power supply can supply enough power to them.

    No idea if your OS might impact the performance or not =s

    Oh. Just saw that.

    Upgrade to 64-bit. Why are you using 4gigs of ram with 32-bit? This'll help a ton.

     


    Originally posted by tillamook

    Originally posted by Etra

    Your computer should run the game fine. There's currently a major bug with nvidia and ati cards (well, what other cards are there? lol) that makes the game run like complete garbage. People with older ATI cards are having their GPU literally reaching 84C and melting.

    Wait until they fix the problem and see how it works then.

    LOL?

    Yeah. Some beta testers had to use the oven technique to revive their cards.

    (I know. It sounds like I'm being a troll, but I'm not. SE did change something with phase 3 that's destroying GPUs, and using your oven to revive a dead GPU does work... Just becareful when doing it and use proper instructions.)

  • mainvein33mainvein33 Member Posts: 406

    Originally posted by Daft

    ok i got the game running on lowest specs and its not smooth at all. My question is what would be the most cheap thing to upgrade on my system? Im broke but i can run every other game just fine.

    Windows XP 32bit

    Core2 duo 2.80GHz

    4gig ram

    Geforce 9500GT 1gig model

    got an ok motherboard

    Its your card bro for sure. Whats your PSU like? If it can run a 9500gt it can run many  9800GT  but  going up to a GTS/X 200 series would be a better upgrade and if you have some real money to spend you can go up to the 400 series. Its up to you but you wont need a big upgrade to play it on "OK" settings.


    Originally posted by Doomedfox


    If u decide to upgrade the Video card and dont mind if u have an Nvidia or ATI card than it would be best to wait till October the Prices for ATI cards will drop than (since the 6xxx series is supposed to launch short time after) if u can afford it go for a 5870 but if its too expansive a 5770 should offer more than enough power as well (got about 5k points with a 5770 on low running the Benchmark test)

    I heard from beta testers (completely second had knowledge) that some ATI cards are suffering with this game I am not sure at all if this is true if any1 would like to confirm.

  • April-RainApril-Rain Member UncommonPosts: 316

    Originally posted by Daft

    ok i got the game running on lowest specs and its not smooth at all. My question is what would be the most cheap thing to upgrade on my system? Im broke but i can run every other game just fine.

    Windows XP 32bit

    Core2 duo 2.80GHz

    4gig ram

    Geforce 9500GT 1gig model

    got an ok motherboard

    I have a high end machine and thought it was running bad, setting to low settings did not help, i then dumped the keyboard and mouse and used a game pad and it was smooth as, so in the end i put it down to the fact that mouse control was implemented very badly.

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  • spankybusspankybus Member UncommonPosts: 1,367

    Originally posted by k1klass

    Originally posted by Daft

    ok i got the game running on lowest specs and its not smooth at all. My question is what would be the most cheap thing to upgrade on my system? Im broke but i can run every other game just fine.

    Windows XP 32bit

    Core2 duo 2.80GHz

    4gig ram

    Geforce 9500GT 1gig model

    got an ok motherboard

    I have a high end machine and thought it was running bad, setting to low settings did not help, i then dumped the keyboard and mouse and used a game pad and it was smooth as, so in the end i put it down to the fact that mouse control was implemented very badly.

    Oh god, that means Mouse Control has no hardware Support...welcome to the 80's!

    I hope they get their shite straight before September. As far as I am concerned FF13 was a over-produced POS. It this one is a train-wreck as well, I fear for the future of the Final Fantasy Franchise.

     

    You can only piss off your fanbase so many times.

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  • Mellow44Mellow44 Member Posts: 599

    Originally posted by Daft

    ok i got the game running on lowest specs and its not smooth at all. My question is what would be the most cheap thing to upgrade on my system? Im broke but i can run every other game just fine.

    Windows XP 32bit

    Core2 duo 2.80GHz

    4gig ram

    Geforce 9500GT 1gig model

    got an ok motherboard

    It's your graphics card thats crap.

    The GeForce 9500GT just can't handle FFXIV very well.

    It's a low performance budget card.

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  • fistormfistorm Member UncommonPosts: 868

    Originally posted by Wolfenpride

    I think the bottom recommended card was something ilke a Geforce 9600 GT, or a better option the 9800 GT? For nvidia cards anyways.

    your processor should be good i think at low settings, as the minimum recommended is a Core Duo 2.0Ghz

    I guess you could try upgrading yoru video card, but make sure your power supply can supply enough power to them.

    No idea if your OS might impact the performance or not =s

     

    9500 GT has 8.8 billion texure fill rate

     9600 has 20.8 billion texture fill rate

    9800 has 33.6 billion texture fill rate

    Thats a huge differance, I wouldnt even bother with the 9600 and most definatly not the 9500

    The 8800 GT also has 33.6 billion texture fill rate

     

    I would buy the 8800 GT before I even bought the 9500 or 9600.   Dont let the model numbers fool you, look up the specs of the card before buying at  www.nvidia.com

     

    Here, I did some homework for you.

     

    Texture fill rate/sec,  I would get the highest fill rate you can with as much ram on the card as you can for your budget.

    9 series

    GeForce 9800 GX2 76.8

    GeForce 9800 GTX+ 47.2

    GeForce 9800 GTX 43.2

    GeForce 9800 GT 33.6

    GeForce 9600 GT 20.8

    GeForce 9600 GSO 512 15.6 billion

    GeForce 9600 GSO 26.4 billion

    GeForce 9500 GT 8.8 billion

    GeForce 9400 GT 4.4 billion

    GeForce 9400 mGPU

    GeForce 9300 mGPU

    8 series

    GeForce 8800 GTS

    GeForce 8800 GT 33.6

    GeForce 8600 GTS

    GeForce 8600 GT

    GeForce 8500 GT

    GeForce 8400 GS

    200 Series

    GeForce GTX 295 92.2

    GeForce GTX 285 51.8

    GeForce GTX 285 for Mac 51.8

    GeForce GTX 280 48.2

    GeForce GTX 275 50.6

    GeForce GTX 260 36.9

    GeForce GTS 250 47.2

    GeForce GT 240 not sure look it up

    GeForce GT 220 not sure look it up

    GeForce 210 not sure look it up

    400 Series

    GeForce GTX 480 42

    GeForce GTX 470 34

    GeForce GTX 465 26.7

    GeForce GTX 460 37.8

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  • DiamedesDiamedes Member Posts: 70

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

     

    This is the best site Ive seen comparing cards and it's all based on benchmarking, not marketing or other BS that people believe.

    The bare minimum that you would want is a score of around 900(8800GT, 9600GT), you're 9500GT scores in the 300s it looks like.

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by Diamedes

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

     

    This is the best site Ive seen comparing cards and it's all based on benchmarking, not marketing or other BS that people believe.

    The bare minimum that you would want is a score of around 900(8800GT, 9600GT), you're 9500GT scores in the 300s it looks like.

     Hey hey! My link is spreading! Yay.

     

    Also, you REALLY need to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit Windows 7

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  • EtraEtra Member UncommonPosts: 164

    Originally posted by Benthon

     Hey hey! My link is spreading! Yay.

     

    Also, you REALLY need to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit Windows 7

    ^This.

    Upgrade to 64-bit (Windows 7) before you do any other upgrades.

    The beta only seems to use two cores, no matter how many you have, of your cpu. So you're fine with the cpu you have. If the uncapping of your RAM doesn't help with the windows upgrade, then replace your GPU.

  • xersentxersent Member Posts: 613

    Originally posted by Daft

    ok i got the game running on lowest specs and its not smooth at all. My question is what would be the most cheap thing to upgrade on my system? Im broke but i can run every other game just fine.

    Windows XP 32bit

    Core2 duo 2.80GHz

    4gig ram

    Geforce 9500GT 1gig model

    got an ok motherboard

    maybe u should upgrade your graphics card

    and go for windows 7 (64Bit version)

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  • Gabby-airGabby-air Member UncommonPosts: 3,440

    Originally posted by Diamedes

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

     

    This is the best site Ive seen comparing cards and it's all based on benchmarking, not marketing or other BS that people believe.

    The bare minimum that you would want is a score of around 900(8800GT, 9600GT), you're 9500GT scores in the 300s it looks like.

    Wow I'm amazed that some of the 6 series even beat this card, prolly time for me to get a new card haha.

    @OP before you spend any money I would suggest waiting till they have the sheer amount of technical problems out of the way so you can see how your PC performs on the actual game.

  • SmikisSmikis Member UncommonPosts: 1,045

    game was unplayable since alpha.. and thats almost half year ago now.. if you think it will get much better in another month till release your in for some shock.. sli still doesnt work..

  • spankybusspankybus Member UncommonPosts: 1,367

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by Diamedes

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

     

    This is the best site Ive seen comparing cards and it's all based on benchmarking, not marketing or other BS that people believe.

    The bare minimum that you would want is a score of around 900(8800GT, 9600GT), you're 9500GT scores in the 300s it looks like.

     Hey hey! My link is spreading! Yay.

     

    Also, you REALLY need to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit Windows 7

    Hey does anyone know if FFXIV will have both 32-bit and 64-bit clients?

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  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    Originally posted by spankybus

    Originally posted by Benthon

    Originally posted by Diamedes

    http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

     

    This is the best site Ive seen comparing cards and it's all based on benchmarking, not marketing or other BS that people believe.

    The bare minimum that you would want is a score of around 900(8800GT, 9600GT), you're 9500GT scores in the 300s it looks like.

     Hey hey! My link is spreading! Yay.

     

    Also, you REALLY need to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit Windows 7

    Hey does anyone know if FFXIV will have both 32-bit and 64-bit clients?

    FFXIV will run multicore whether it's 32 or 64 bit CPU and OS or not.



    WoW64 really doesn't hurt performance much at all, and generally changing the game code to accomodate 64-bit is more for functionality than performance (e.g. store larger numbers, along with addressing more RAM to a single program should one ever actually need that much...)



    While supporting 64bit natively is not a bad thing in the slightest, having to rewrite some code to support it is likely not worth the cost/time investment on SE's part given the low benefit. This is why 64-bit adoption took so long. Until recently, only servers ever really needed more RAM than a 32 bit system supports.

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