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I have to agree with that first response by dacriminal. If the situation is intollerable you find another job which allows you to express yourself or start your own. People think they are hired just to play with someone else's money.
That's in an ideal world. In the real world where people have real bills to pay and real families to feed, you keep your job.
wow, people are still here argueing about this thing? The whole blog was a troll post to begin with, which has been confirmed by a REAL ex mythic employee. Now everyone is just on that blog trolling it pretending to be this ex mythic employee or some pissed off worker on some other game.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
I have to agree with that first response by dacriminal. If the situation is intollerable you find another job which allows you to express yourself or start your own. People think they are hired just to play with someone else's money.
That's in an ideal world. In the real world where people have real bills to pay and real families to feed, you keep your job.
wow, people are still here argueing about this thing? The whole blog was a troll post to begin with, which has been confirmed by a REAL ex mythic employee. Now everyone is just on that blog trolling it pretending to be this ex mythic employee or some pissed off worker on some other game.
Nice attempt at damage limitation but you know very well that it's a real blog by a real EA employee.
Where is this confirmation? Not that I believe/disbelieve the blog, I just find it a great, funny read
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
As Mark Twain used to say: Denial ain't a river in Egypt!
Sanya weathers posted a blog entry somewhere denouncing this guys claims about her. When i can get the link I will post ift here for you.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
I have to agree with that first response by dacriminal. If the situation is intollerable you find another job which allows you to express yourself or start your own. People think they are hired just to play with someone else's money.
That's in an ideal world. In the real world where people have real bills to pay and real families to feed, you keep your job.
wow, people are still here argueing about this thing? The whole blog was a troll post to begin with, which has been confirmed by a REAL ex mythic employee. Now everyone is just on that blog trolling it pretending to be this ex mythic employee or some pissed off worker on some other game.
Where is this confirmation? Not that I believe/disbelieve the blog, I just find it a great, funny read
Sanya weathers posted a blog entry somewhere denouncing this guys claims about her. When i can get the link I will post ift here for you.
Not necessary. She does NOT denounce him at all. It's covered in these quotes:
Brat says:
October 13, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Sanya simply said that part of the story was wrong, and the part that was wrong was a private matter that would only be known by a select few because of legal NDAs. Office rumors abound and this person was probably informed wrong by the talking heads. This in no way debunks anything. You people are worse than those retards that think 9/11 was an inside job.
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sirix says:
October 13, 2010 at 5:07 pm
And it is obvious what Sanya was referring to the OP stated that she got into a shouting match and was let go shortly after. That is probably not exactly how it went down.
The OP wasnt privvy to Sanyas exact terms of departure, news at 11!
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Doodooface says:
October 13, 2010 at 9:20 pm
She said that that wasnt a major part of what happened, not that it never happened, too. Theres a difference.
This is another interesting post from that same thread:
Sabranic says:
October 13, 2010 at 3:23 pm
This blog rings true I have followed the inner workings of Mythic for many years, (think if it as a very unhealthy obsession actually), and this both fills in some missing puzzle pieces that I have wondered about for years especially the departure of Tweety and the shuffling around of various community liaisons like Missy and rings true based on my own knowledge of how things went down.
As someone who works for a firm that deals with internet PR and damage control, I do have to say, that those here on the clock attempting to put humpty dumpty back together are very very transparent.
Also, EALouse, I should warn you not only are people in my field paid to attempt to discredit and mock you, we are also paid to get you to reveal enough information about yourself that you can be reprimanded, fired, or, sued. Please be very careful in the information you give out on request, as with as few as three correct answers, I would be able to figure out exactly who you are.
I approve of what you are doing, but be careful of placing yourself in an actionable position. I see at least 3 posters here (besides myself) who I can guarantee are spinning.
I would refrain from answering specific questions, and keep to more generalities. Good luck, and I support what you are doing. Its sad to see EA cannibalize game after game.
Sure, I posted the exact same thing about how I was an "Ex mythic employee and I was disgruntled, and how I was not surprised at all about what the blogger has described, and that it was like this all over the industry"
People actually believed I worked for mythic.... It was just an attempt to see how gullable people on the internet are.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Lets see, 1 milion players is:
First year: 60 milions from game sold + 15 milion euros every month = 60 + 180 miloin/year = 240 milions/year
Next years: 180 milions/year
So in lets say 3 years they will recover their investment, if things go bad (1 milion is bad for this MMO) and start collecting money like crazy.
Are my numbers correct?
An honest review of SW:TOR 6/10 (Danny Wojcicki)
Well, just because you tell porky pies doesn't mean other people have to, right?
No but anyone can say anything behind the anonymity of th eent,so without verifiable proof from a credible source anything like this blog should be taken with a grain of salt.The onyl reason you and others are so ready to beleive and defend the blog is that it gels with your own beliefs when ti comes to EA,Mythic and Bioware.
This is not to say the blog is not presenting the truth only that it cannot be used as a credible source to make any decisions or valid comments from.
Yea, that was pretty much my whole point. All these people are acting anonymously and none of them are telling us anything we don't already know.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Okay seeing as i was in the converstation before i'll leave the conversation with this.
Until i get some kind of verifiable proof. Like an investigations, i'm going to take this like i take everything else.
It's possible this could have happened, but until i see proof, i'm going to leave it as just some guy ranting on a blog. which anyone can do.
So while this guys MAY be telling the truth i lean on the side of falsehood (innocent before guilty is fine when you can see the person and when it's in court, however you also have to assume BW/EA are innocent of these charges as well. However on th internet this doesn't hold true because when you can say any dang thing you want and make up stuff with no consequences, that allows for lying very easily, we gotta take it like a stranger when we don't know the truth. They can say anything they want, proving it is another. I don't take blog posts as evidence, sorry. I take investigations and inside views from outside sources as evidence.
I can name myself Blizzardemp and say all kinds of crap are going on behind blizzards door, they cooked up this plan to make all their subs lose their security, have to buy an authenticator and boy wait till they get a load of what will happen in Cata, plus they will like that new AH thing we are cooking up. Everyone likes immunity for 30 seconds. Will be a killer.
Does that make it true? Nope, does it make this blog true, probably not. The only thing that will make it true is cold hard facts. Otherwise it's another person on the internet.
As for damage control? no reason, wind causes more damage then a simple blog post will. Real damage control starts if the game is bad. Until then, meh i'll keep my blaster on the bench until something actually happens.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I believe EA Louse. Well I mean that it's believable that this is how he/she perceived things. It doesn't mean that's how they exactly happened, but how he/she saw it.
But then it does sound like EA Louse is bitter towards SWTOR. The MMO he worked on failed, and his company is being dismantled and moved to Texas to work SWTOR. Except for EA Louse, who is being fired... That's screwed up lol. Still he tried to find something horrible to say about SWTOR and the worst he can scrounge up is:
1) The game has a huge budget.
2) Bioware is proud of the music, sound effects, voice overs.
3) The game is a joke.
We'll see.
I think some here could benefit from some reading comprehension courses.
Sanya's blog validated Louse's. LOL
To translate for those who seem to have difficulty with comprehension:
When she addressed what Louse said about her and Mark Jacobs having a loud fight leading to her leaving, she was stating that the fight is not the reason she left. She did not say that the fight did not happen, she just meant that the fight was not the reason she left.
She also acknowledged that some of what he said about her was true, she was just straightening out some of the " facts". She was not legally able to straighten out more as she stated her lawyer has informed her.
She also stated that she feels bad for Louse, "That there are not that many people still at Mythic that meet all the criteria AND can type that cleanly" and had voiced concern about him being crushed by a legal team.
Which is also acknowledging that she believes he does in fact work for Mythic.
I was very doubtful that he was an employee .. until Sanya's response. LOL
Yes, I Saw The Louse Blog
This.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Don't be silly. Every newscast every day and every newspaper contains stories from 'anonymous sources'. Even CNN carries 'unattributed' stories.
I'm not sure if this was mentioned in this thread yet but this was in the comment section in his blog...
Sanya Weathers, addressed this comment in her own blog.
This is her response...
You can read her entire blog here.
I doubt this guy works for mythic, but even if he actually does, I think it's safe to say he really doesn't know what he's talking about.
You need to look at what the implications are of those things he mentioned
1. Big budget means they need to make that money back or it will end up like WAR, which is on maintenance mode. Estimates had them needing at least 1 million subs after a year. Sadly, we can count the number of MMO's that have had 1 million subs on one hand of a shop teacher missing a few fingers. This fact makes the battle for SWTOR an uphill one. Don't forget that SWTOR also has a bunch of competition coming in 2011 so it makes it even harder.
2. The best Bioware has is sound- this implies that the gameplay is mediocre to sub-par. Considering that this is a game and gameplay is one of the most important factors, otherwise just read a book/watch a movie, it doesn't say much for where their priorities were.
3. He said they were panicking and pulling Mythic employees because of the state of the game. This is actually semi-supported by actual Bioware Dev quotes, a month or so ago, stating that Mythic was working on PvP and they had 1 Warzone and were just starting another. This is 6 months from launch, one would hope they had planned out warzones long in advance and certainly more than 2-3 but it truly appears they didn't since in MMO development this is last minute.
Even before this post more than a few people, myself included, could read the writing on the wall. Bioware has continually put off describing the MMO mechanics and that is generally the information you want about a MMO. Instead they keep pushing story, VO, and now rerolling. It just shows they don't think those other things are of importance and when they gloss over them with "yes, we have that stuff" it shows either how ignorant they are to how important those things actually are or that they don't have any clue how things will turn out. Both are equally worrying.
Until I see some in depth mechanics announced/discussed/demoed I can't help but feel this game will be another 3 month and done game. I just don't see it having the lasting power to keep the masses and obviously this guy feels the same. Will it be true or not remains to be seen. However, I think the guy is probably speaking what he believes is the truth and combine that with the information he gave about Mythic and I'd say I believe him. It won't stop me from hoping Bioware pulls off a great game but I'm certainly not planning to play SWTOR more than 3 months before I get bored.
A newscast/newspaper that uses anonymous sources in a story tha tis presented as fact and not rumour or opinion is in fact putting their own crediblity on the line and if that source proves false they are then liable for any damage the story may of caused.If the story is presented as rumour or opinion and NOT truth/fact then they get away with it as long as it is clear that it is reporting opinion or rumour.They get away wit hit in the latter case becaus eit is understood that the story is nto base don facts and may prove untrue.
This blog does not evne come close to being analogous to the above case as no one's credibility is on the line and unless soemoen find sout who the blogger is,no one cna be held accoutnable for the validity of the blog's claims.Again this doesn't mena anything that was said in the blog is false just that it can't be lsited as credible in any way.
Sort of correct. Not all of the $60 box fee or the $15/month sub will be profit. Retailers and others, including Lucas, will take a big bite out of the box price so perhaps EA is lucky to make $20/box. The monthly fee will have to cover ongoing expenses, labor, bandwidth, advertising, employee benefit packages, taxes, ect, and of course a cut for Lucas, so maybe $3/month to go towards paying off the investment.
At a million boxes sold and a million subs maintained for the entire first year that would amount to-
1 Million boxes x $20= $20 million
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1 million subs at $3/month= $36 million
So perhaps $56 million from the first year could go towards paying off the investment in the game. Even if they were able to maintain box sales of 1 million/year and an average of 1 million subs, at a $300 million dollar investment that would take (300/36= 5.35) 5.35 years to break even. When you add the cost of further development things start to look even more bleak.
The good news is I don't believe the $300 million dollar investment is true. I think they have broken the $100 million mark and will likely creep towards $150- 200 by the time they launch, but $300 million would be suicidal.
Anyway you look at it though, they are going to need some sort of item shop to help break even, which may be bad news.
That was not the point, I think Drakynn's post as a whole was clear and sensible enough in its insights.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Just like that time that Jeff Goldblum died.
The blog is mostly supposition from the poster. As suspect as it is that he's even a former employee, its even more suspect had he been an employee and been let go. Nothing he states can be confirmed, and the only ones who will believe him are the ones that want what he says to be true.
Truth be told what the original blog says is no more true then any number of comments from "ex Mythic employees" some of which corroborate and others of which debunk whats being said.