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Dropping the dime. Conspiracy theories for the mmo player. (Blizzard Edition)
Ramonski7
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There has been speculation that Blizzard's next mmo endeavor will be a MMOFPS. Read here. And we all know CCP's next endeavor is going to be a MMOFPS, on a console and F2P. Could it be that Blizzard is secretly in bed with CCP to bring about the next big thing in MMO gaming? Maybe handing them hush money to create a MMOFPS that would not directly compete with Blizzard's next baby (PC based/F2P/MMOFPS)?
For that matter why is it that the only former Blizzard employees that are having moderate/sustantial success (Arena.NET/Runic Games) with games make them so that they do not directly interfere with Blizzard's pricing model? Do they know something we don't? Were they paid to make sure specific ideas took rooot in the mmo community?
Was the failed experiement with Hellgate: London a secret test market to show Blizzard what not to do.
Before Starcraft Ghost was shelved. It showed a striking resemblance to Global Agenda. Did Blizzard have a hand in that as well?
Speaking about having a hand in something...as of now Blizzard has a 54% stranglehold on mmo subscriptions in the western market. And with the flip of 3 major P2P mmos (DDO, LoTRO and EQ2) to F2P, does that raise signals that they've given up on trying to compete with Blizzard in the subscription wars? Or does it signal that they know Blizzard's next mmo will be a F2P model as well and are trying to gain a sizeable amount of market shares before Blizzard releases it's own F2P mmo?
Could it be that Blizzard's next mmo will be a B2P and Blizzard will turn Battle.net into a subscription system for both games at one price point? Would you pay 19.99 to access two mmos from Blizzard?
Rumors swirl and players dream up all sorts of crazy ideas. Heck, even I like to throw some far-fetched stuff out there every once in a while. And what would really be funny is if even a small bit of it were true. Happy Friday people!
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
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The Art Bell of MMO Gaming it seems
I personally don't buy any of what you are selling, but it was a great read and well written, keep them coming!
I do like the idea of subscribing to battle.net so I can play two mmos at once. It is really expensive to play two mmos as not only are you paying for two but you only have half as much time to play each. Also if they have the battle.net subscription, blizzard won't be competing against themselves.
The red part is basically what will happen soon (whenever D3 releases). I'm sure they are greedy enough charging a monthly fee for it they will then have a sub model like: Battlenet 5 $ a month / Battlenet + MMORPG (Wow + their next one) "all inclusive" 19 - 25 $ a month on topo of that and added item shop.
I really hope your CCP theory isn't true I would absolutely hate it if these guys would work side by side with Blizzard, because CCP is well known for making outstanding, challenging games such as EvE and I mean, Blizzard is...the exact opposite...
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
I think what is in store for us is a copy of Microsoft's XBL. I think eventually we will be given multiple ways to subscribe to Bnet in order to play their games online.
As far as what type of mmo it will be is anyone's guess but I'm not 100% sold on the fact that this new ip will be all that new because lets face it, they have never ever made anything original. If the forumla works then why change it ? I guess we shall see what happens.
virtual reality mmo.
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
Oh man this is fucking hilarious! Do you do these often and with multiple companies? If so I would like to see any others you have made.
Anyways back to the topic: Yeah I also heard from worldofraids two years ago that Blizzard's next MMO was going to be a "FPS / The Sims" type of game. No other details were given. Also, with the huge amount of success that F2P mmos with items malls are having, I would guess that Blizzard will soon develop a similar business model. Probably not in WoW but maybe in their future products. F2P gamers, for the most part, stick to F2P games because they feel like they can control when they spend and how they spend. And for the most part, they can, but a good percentage of these people end up paying much more then $15 a month, and this drives these pieces of crap games to success.
Also, I thought the thing about hellgate london was very laughable. Furthermore, I doubt that Blizzard would ever pay anybody hush money, even if they were a direct competitor that has rising popularity. But who knows - no company can stay under the same management forever.
Good quote. It really puts it in perspective, how the political rally cries on the forums pushing the "game master" to do what they want in the game is/was the juice.
One reason I left - I was tired of being played by Blizzard. I prefer games that are more fair advantage-less.
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
Actually, I quoted MAnalog so that I can have some lulz whenever I post. Heres the deal: The forum posters are always the minority, although they ARE the vocal members of the community - they tend to raise a lot more hell when they are dissatisfied over something rather then praising it. WoW's community is no exception. WoW is doing fine - Cata is going to kick ass.
But let's ignore this and get back on topic with the conspiracy theories.
Before that let me slide in the notion that they really don't know what they're doing anymore. I've seen video and it doesn't look good. For anyone in entertainment really. Nobody really seems to have a grasp on things the way it was a few years ago. This includes Blizzard. I was attracted to the game after I quit but no not now I can actually say - yuck!
k, back to the thread!
virtual reality.
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
I'm betting Blizzard doesn't know how to make a good FPS much less a MMOFPS.
The red part could be feasable hey Sony/Station is doing it pay 29.99 get access to EQ,EQ2,EQ Frontiers,Planetside,Potbs,Vanguard,SWG and Free Realms.
As far as CCP being in bed with Blizzard who knows in this interview about 20 minutes in the guy said WoD was going to be a merge of pvp/sandbox and warcraft/themepark pve and a 3rd social element: http://www.massively.com/2010/10/11/gdco-2010-ccp-talks-eve-dust-and-world-of-darkness/#comments
The plot thickens! Seriously I think we've earned the right to come up with our own version of conspiracies in the mmo genre. Lord knows we have enough colorful players/devs/pencil-pushin desk jockey CEOs out there to add fuel to those fictional fires. I think I'll tackle SoE next week, they are chock full of conspiracy goodness!
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I'll be honest I didn't read anything but the original post and I must say this is about the dumbest thing I have ever read on this website and I've been reading here long before my account creation date.
Oh and here is the only fact you need to hear which in my opinion takes your theory, tells it to bite the curb and then stomps the $h!t outta it!
How could Blizzard be the brains of this so called Mafia Syndicate fueling developers to make games of their own vision when they are too afraid to be on their own hence "Activision Blizzard"... I mean really common.
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Gratz, OP. This is the dumbest conspiracy theory since the idea that Steven Spielberg makes all news (there is only 30 minutes of news happening every day but sundays, a coincidence?).
No, Blizzard have only made a few game, it wasn't so long ago they lived on porting Amiga games to PC.
They started to get big with Diablo and Starcraft. After that they made Warcraft 3, Diablo 2, Wow and now Starcraft 2. Does that sound like a company so big that it could make all games?
They got lucky with Wow. Luck, timing, good coding and some good marketing made them into the largest MMO company with a single game. But they don't have resources or ideas to rule completely. If you think about it they only made 3 large IPs: Warcraft, Starcraft and Diablo. That is very far from ruling the market in the same way Microsoft do with OSes.
I am far from sure that they can make another huge MMO even, and they have no reason to help other companies either.
There are a few conspiracy theories that at least have some plausible explanation, but most of them are dumb and this one is dumber than most.
Wow....just wow. Congratulations to Loke666 and Brone87 for trying so hard to look pass the obvious jest of this post that your misplaced contempt for all things Blizzard succeeds only to prove to others that you can indeed find people that are both witless and unwitty in their responses. Try lightening up a bit. We are all mostly intelligent when it comes to these things.
I was simply putting some "togue-in-cheek" humor out there for a Friday night, you know...to lighten the mood around here. Guess there are people that still take themselves and the games they play seriously all the time.....a darn shame too.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Ya I realized that I should have replied with a slighty friendlier response after re-reading your post and seeing you weren't being a total raving maniac claiming fact, instead more of a joke.
Then again in all honesty it still is pretty dumb but if thinking of silly Conspiracy theories helps get you through this MMO drought easier more power to you... God knows we all need something while we wait for the next batch.
It may sound odd for me to say it, but (If it actually happens) I think paying 20 bucks, or worse, 25 a month is just...too much to afford just to have fun. We're talking 1/3rd of an xbox 360/ps3 game a month, add in the Warcraft Expansion packs, and any xbox 360/ps3 game you wish, and you'd see in your first month three digits.
If a person is paying that much to find something to enjoy passing time with, I personally think they should start anew and rethink that decision. I also believe the best game I can think of that was manage to pop two subscriptions at once used to be Runescape and Funorb (Till Funorb slowed on updates.) at $7 a month, nearly three times lower then Blizzards subscriptions and includes 1 MMO with around 20 minigames (3 Multiplayer, one worms-like) at start.
Has there ever been any other edition?
Lighten up, sport.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek (EDIT: I see Ramonski7 already got to it)
Next Friday is the Sony edition. Heh
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
A third of a console game that I would beat in a week. I would gladly pay $30 a month for one quality game but for two it would be a bargain.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
This is my friends philosophy. Single player games are too short, everyone knows it, game companies know they are making less content, but the main market is casuals, who wont play a game for 4 hours in one session and be disgusted that those 4 hours saw the entire content of that game. Finished, done, end, you won! Now go outside and do something else, what? you wanted more? sorry, not today in the Casual Cattle Crowd of gaming, you get a game developed to keep the 30 minutes a day guy busy for a month, you're not supposed to game from start to finish in one sitting even if its entirely possible. Speed runs used to be an achievment, today they are the game.
He complained that he finished Halo Reach in 4 something hours, had a mate over, and they did it in co-op in 2 and some change. Said that he would stick to MMO's, more value for money, and while I do agree with him, im in an MMO slump and just cant bring myself to game. So I play minecraft, and he does too when he's not bitching my arse to play something.
Funny you would mention Halo Reach. I dont have a 360 but the first game that I remember thinking, "boy was that short" was Halo on the original xbox. But yes, console games are not a good investment of money vs time. My brother was complaining about how my nephew beat Dantes Inferno in 6 hours lol. Figures out at about $10 an hour. In comparison $15 a month is pretty cheap. As for your slump, I think any of us that play MMO's pretty heavily hit slumps now and then. I just play some single player games and "cool out" a bit from the online stuff then get back into it after a few months.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.