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this and please this. seriously folks it's getting repetitive.
A couple of corrections to the above two posters.
1) The West just doesn't like PvP. It's not about risk/reward. They just don't like it. There are plenty of PvP games that offer no risk whatsoever, and the majority of western gamers still prefer to level/quest in peace without people ganking them. As for Aion, you do NOT lose anything PvP in Aion, not exp or loot, except for Abyss Points. However, pre Rank 1, the amount of AP you lose is so insignificant, no one actually cares. The only real risk is AP if you're Rank 1 or higher, and unless you PvP regularly, you're not going to get there. I'm including Dredgion in the PvP category, even though the recent barrier changes have made it largely PvE.
2) GW had plenty of additional content, both free and expansions. There were 2 expansions to the original game and a third (Utopia) was to be released before they decided to instead focus the efforts of that expansion into what we now know as Guild Wars 2. Despite that, they eventually launched Guild Wars: Eye of the North, which is somewhat of an expansion though it feels more like a bonus pack. It's meant to tie in with GW2. There have been several free content expansions as well, the most noteable is Guild Wars: War in Kryta, a series of very involved (and difficult) missions centered around the incoming catastrophies that start GW2's storyline. Just recently there was Heart of the North, more along that line, and on the way is an additional one involving the continent of Cantha. It stands to reason afterwards, there will be one involving Kamadan at the very least, though likely that entire nation, seeing as how it's a huge part of the GW2 storyline (this is where the Whispers are most prominent, who have involvement with the Dragons). Years later and things are still being added, events still held, things still happening. Also just fyi, their recent survey asked if we'd like them to continue adding expansions to GW, and the overwhelming response was 'yes'. I don't see why they'd ask that without intention.
As for the population of FF14, i don't think that is now nor has it ever really been in question. If you're doubting it, you're a blind fanboy and talking to you is about as useful as talking at a brick wall. Whether the majority of that is West vs East, I don't know, and am not really sure why it matters. I didn't read that far back. However the recent posts and screenshots of the multitude of bots should attest to the fact that not only is the population lower than originally thought (if you don't include the very many bots), but that if the East is involved in the game more than the West, it's probably because that's where botting is most prominent.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Interesting, but without grind, it's just not enough for the PvE folks. Which is the majority of Western players it seems.
Hey guys, lets try to cut down on all the quote boxes if we can. Thanks.
"I can't say I am surprised that you didn't answer the second question!"
Do I even need to point out for you?
"I wonder what will happen during those few minutes in the middle of an encounter."
Only usable in FF XIV because the combat is so slow.In other MMORPG by the time you've finished changing your class,put on tanking/ healing gears your group's already dead.
Oh BTW in GW2 every class can do everything everyone can do control(there's no tanking in the game),DPSing,Healing self sufficient as there's no dedicated healing class,everyone can heal him / herself.
"I'm sure playing 5 different characters is more immersive than playing one character as your alter ego and getting more attached to it.
Is there something "unbelievable" about what you just said either? Are those armors glued to the character so you can't remove them? Sure, in real life people can't change their clothes whenever they want so that's not immersive...oh wait. They can."
Once again you decided to take the strawman approach.
A profession is something you have to dedicate your life too.A man want to master the art of warrior,he has to dedicate his life to it. It's not as simple as you think,ever try practicing martial art?
"Depends how easy it is to change. Make a new character? That's not an option for many, since people want to play one character."
In other game making new character is free unlike in the FF MMOs where you have to pay extra money each month,get rid of the extra fee and we'll see how many "people want to play one character"(which is your assumptiom). BTW there was a poll by a member on GW2 Forums about the implementation of a class changing system not unlike FF XIV.And the answer was overwhelmingly "No".
"Yes, if there is no grind (or repeatable actions, like PvP), there is no longevity. Usually a mix of both is what makes the games last.
Now you somehow seem to imply that if a game has longevity it is automatically successful or good. That is quite naive.
Still doesn't change the fact that without grind people won't play the games for long, no matter how good they are."
Longevity is meaningless if it feels like a chore.Chore is not fun and cause people to leave.Grinding the same PvE encounter after the first few times will eventually feel like a chore=> cause people to leave.Prime examples: Aion and Lineage 2.
"For a select minority, it does."
We were talking about PvE,I was only talking PvE longevity.
These sentences contradict with each other. How would this game affect any MMO other than temporarily?
The same way Black ops cause other games to become ghost town.Except Black ops doesn't have much content in it and won't receive any significant updates other than a few new maps,unlike GW2.
"Doesn't seem to matter, as it sold 6 million copies anyway I heard."
Now image GW2 with all the hype it's gotten.....
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