I'm tired of killing mobs.

Bashir

I want a game where i can just go gathering or fishing.  I want to be able to defend myself if i have to with a bow or sword of some sort of magic.  I want to build my own house and make my own boat and go fishing on that boat and just get lost in the game world. 

 

I thought I had found that in Vanguard but like i said, i'm tired of killing mobs.  maybe there's something like that out there.  any ideas?

GTwander

http://www.wurmonline.com

Bakoryo

I'd also suggest Haven & Hearth.

 

http://www.havenandhearth.com/portal/

 

It has pretty much everything you ask for

Bashir

thanks for the feedback, i'll have to give those a try. 

Loke666

Vanguard works as well.

I agree with you, MMOs should be more flexible and have other aspects to them then just fighting, and I don't mean a little crafting as the alternative. Played the old game "Thief"? To have missions like that would be a great addition also to the genre.

The archery contest of the Classic "Robin hood" is another thing that would work fine.

There are many options but few games do non combat stuff good. Vanguard does crafting and similar stuff better than most and building your house and boat works fine there. I wish the genre could add more stuff like that.

Bashir

Originally posted by Loke666

Vanguard works as well.

I agree with you, MMOs should be more flexible and have other aspects to them then just fighting, and I don't mean a little crafting as the alternative. Played the old game "Thief"? To have missions like that would be a great addition also to the genre.

The archery contest of the Classic "Robin hood" is another thing that would work fine.

There are many options but few games do non combat stuff good. Vanguard does crafting and similar stuff better than most and building your house and boat works fine there. I wish the genre could add more stuff like that.

i REALLY wanted to get into vanguard.  I like the fact that i can have a home and what not, but i can't exactly get the stuff i need unless i level up adventuring or whatever.  can't really level up adventuring because like someone else said on this site, the game's population is "top heavy."  gave up trying to find groups so my pally is stuck at 26.  oh well though, wurm looks promising. 

Sid_Vicious

Darkfall has a huge open world without instances that is fun to explore. I have been playing it for almost 2 years and still have not seen a lot of the places and content. You could in theory never kill a single mob and do all of the things that you are wanting to do but getting a house would be quite challenging and may take a couple months of negotiating the market or spamming trade chat because the plots are limited even though there are hundreds. I know of people who play that game and do not kill mobs or fight at all. It is easy to avoid PVP once you get used to it because you experience player lag if someone is coming close so if you get lag you can just get the hell out of there to avoid being jumped. You can sneak into player-made cities to harvest their stuff or sneak into villages to conquer when nobody is looking or to harvest other people's gardens and stuff. Player cities/hamlets can be built up one wall at a time but housing is done different because nobody can take your house away from you (one of the only things in the game that people cannot take away from you and you add things like furniture or a garden, vendor, safe, crafting table, etc. but you cannot position anything anyway that you want like you can in Vanguard). Unlike Vanguard, you could build a raft and sail out into the open seas to harvest nodes and explore islands and stuff like fishing off of your boat and also unlike Vanguard, you never have to kill a mob ever and can find other ways to make money. Harvesting/crafting is not as fun as Vanguard because you just click and wait until the resource is emptied but unlike Vanguard, your gaming sessions are unexpected and you never know what you may come across or when someone will come looking for blood. The funnest part of the crafting in Darkfall would be enchanting but the mats needed come from mobs but you could just harvest and trade that for the mats instead of going out to find it yourself. Unless you just plan on riding a mount away whenever you experience player lag you will have to build some skills up to have any chance of defending yourself from other players or super intelligent mobs. No matter what you do, your character stats increase the more that you play so you will be pretty tough eventually even if you never fight anything. Harvesting/crafting/riding/swimming all build up a more powerful character so you do not ever have to pick up a weapon to reach the maximum in hitpoints, for example (but it takes a long time! no matter how you do it). The combat is the best thing about this game though so you would be missing out on a lot if you never got involved. You can still get heavily involved into the politics and economy enough that you could actually change the value of things or hold a monopoly for other things without ever picking up a weapon because the world has no instances and is pretty much entirely controlled by players. I have never played Wurm . ... curious about it but it seems a bit out-dated. My first couple months of playing Darkfall, I rarely killed mobs and mostly haggled the market or went out to kill other people (crafting can make a pretty tough character, stat-wise) and have seen single individuals influence the entire world by doing something like haggling trade to increase the value of something. I have seen one person almost double the value of ore for a couple weeks, for example.

Mr_Wolfx

I'd also suggest HnH, I'm actually atm forming a village in that game, were looking for all the help we can get.  pm me if youd like to join

theinvader

Originally posted by Sid_Vicious

Darkfall has a huge open world without instances that is fun to explore. I have been playing it for almost 2 years and still have not seen a lot of the places and content. You could in theory never kill a single mob and do all of the things that you are wanting to do but getting a house would be quite challenging and may take a couple months of negotiating the market or spamming trade chat because the plots are limited even though there are hundreds.

 

I know of people who play that game and do not kill mobs or fight at all. It is easy to avoid PVP once you get used to it because you experience player lag if someone is coming close so if you get lag you can just get the hell out of there to avoid being jumped. You can sneak into player-made cities to harvest their stuff or sneak into villages to conquer when nobody is looking or to harvest other people's gardens and stuff.

 

Player cities/hamlets can be built up one wall at a time but housing is done different because nobody can take your house away from you (one of the only things in the game that people cannot take away from you and you add things like furniture or a garden, vendor, safe, crafting table, etc. but you cannot position anything anyway that you want like you can in Vanguard).

 

Unlike Vanguard, you could build a raft and sail out into the open seas to harvest nodes and explore islands and stuff like fishing off of your boat and also unlike Vanguard, you never have to kill a mob ever and can find other ways to make money.

 

Harvesting/crafting is not as fun as Vanguard because you just click and wait until the resource is emptied but unlike Vanguard, your gaming sessions are unexpected and you never know what you may come across or when someone will come looking for blood. The funnest part of the crafting in Darkfall would be enchanting but the mats needed come from mobs but you could just harvest and trade that for the mats instead of going out to find it yourself.

 

Unless you just plan on riding a mount away whenever you experience player lag you will have to build some skills up to have any chance of defending yourself from other players or super intelligent mobs. No matter what you do, your character stats increase the more that you play so you will be pretty tough eventually even if you never fight anything. Harvesting/crafting/riding/swimming all build up a more powerful character so you do not ever have to pick up a weapon to reach the maximum in hitpoints, for example (but it takes a long time! no matter how you do it).

 

The combat is the best thing about this game though so you would be missing out on a lot if you never got involved. You can still get heavily involved into the politics and economy enough that you could actually change the value of things or hold a monopoly for other things without ever picking up a weapon because the world has no instances and is pretty much entirely controlled by players.

 

I have never played Wurm . ... curious about it but it seems a bit out-dated.

 

My first couple months of playing Darkfall, I rarely killed mobs and mostly haggled the market or went out to kill other people (crafting can make a pretty tough character, stat-wise) and have seen single individuals influence the entire world by doing something like haggling trade to increase the value of something. I have seen one person almost double the value of ore for a couple weeks, for example.

That post was an eyesore.

alazyguy

Darkfall!

And hehe, Sid probably has noscript.

MMORPG's text editor doesn't play well with noscript when it comes to formatting.

dreamscaper

Originally posted by theinvader

Originally posted by Sid_Vicious

Darkfall has a huge open world without instances that is fun to explore. I have been playing it for almost 2 years and still have not seen a lot of the places and content. You could in theory never kill a single mob and do all of the things that you are wanting to do but getting a house would be quite challenging and may take a couple months of negotiating the market or spamming trade chat because the plots are limited even though there are hundreds.

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My first couple months of playing Darkfall, I rarely killed mobs and mostly haggled the market or went out to kill other people (crafting can make a pretty tough character, stat-wise) and have seen single individuals influence the entire world by doing something like haggling trade to increase the value of something. I have seen one person almost double the value of ore for a couple weeks, for example.

That post was an eyesore.

 

Why? There's nothing at all wrong with that post, unless you simply don't agree with the content.

 

On the subject at hand, however, this has been something that's been annoying me for some time now. We have the ability to make these huge virtual worlds, but we seem  in capable of making one that doesn't revolve around violence in one form or another. There's so much potential, but yet we're still following the path of least resistance.

Izork

Minecraft is EVERYTHING you ask for.. except it's not a MMO.

 

 

 

You can build houses, dungeons, tunnels, huge buildings.. The only thing stopping you is imagination..

theinvader

Originally posted by dreamscaper

Originally posted by theinvader

That post was an eyesore.

 

Why? There's nothing at all wrong with that post, unless you simply don't agree with the content.

Huge wall of text with no paragraph breaks.

dreamscaper

Originally posted by theinvader

Originally posted by dreamscaper

Originally posted by theinvader

That post was an eyesore.

 

Why? There's nothing at all wrong with that post, unless you simply don't agree with the content.

Huge wall of text with no paragraph breaks.

Maybe he/she fixed it at a later point, but I see plenty of paragraph breaks.

rojoArcueid

Originally posted by Bashir

I want a game where i can just go gathering or fishing.  I want to be able to defend myself if i have to with a bow or sword of some sort of magic.  I want to build my own house and make my own boat and go fishing on that boat and just get lost in the game world. 

 

I thought I had found that in Vanguard but like i said, i'm tired of killing mobs.  maybe there's something like that out there.  any ideas?

your expectations are included in real life,  get a manufacturing(crafting) job and buy a boat and go fishing and ur good to go....   the only thing ull have to kill is the fishes

Angelbound

Holy wall of text mother goddess.

theinvader

Originally posted by dreamscaper

Originally posted by theinvader

Originally posted by dreamscaper

Originally posted by theinvader

That post was an eyesore.

 

Why? There's nothing at all wrong with that post, unless you simply don't agree with the content.

Huge wall of text with no paragraph breaks.

Maybe he/she fixed it at a later point, but I see plenty of paragraph breaks.

That's because I added the paragraph breaks when I quoted!

AlysenMinase

Mabinogi. You can progress with non combat activities. You can get part time jobs, go fishing, get a house (only if you sub though), etc.

Leagolx

possibly wurm online just for the in depth crafting

ryzom but youd have to kill some mobs

if you werent completely partial to an mmo id recommend minecraft when it gets multiplayer not an mmo but it does have an indepth craftin system with pretty much limitless possiblitys. The game is very interesting and you are only limited to what you can come up with.

i would recommend vanguard but you already have spoken on that title which is understandable i played for a while looking for you were looking for and i didnt find it.

Id recommend ffxiv to but that game tanked but in theory it was what you were looking for but it just didnt do anythign well not to mention i found crafting in that game despite being one of the thigns they did rightish it still was semi broken.It didnt save recipes either ugh.

Id recommend Ryzom but i just started and im really loving it so im biased haha good luck.

Shooter-90

Originally posted by GTwander

http://www.wurmonline.com

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