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BoltSaviorBoltSavior Member UncommonPosts: 11

Dear Santa ~ 

Playin dead seriously for 3 months now and im getting bored as hell.

Of course playin that much in 3 months might be to much but that how MMO's are supposed to be played,right !?



Growing tired of doing Leves/craft/solo (Party sux why, aint it a MMO?)

Patience is the key in life, and i have tons, but continuing playin a

broken game hurts the fan boy in me and i have to stop before i get more 

sad while playin.

Here i go ! XD

- Chocobo: I'd rather Chocobo run then spamming animas. (Make us breed em, XI breeding was great)



- Airships: They would help so much! But we gota have some time sink so 

run your time off! (They will come out when Ishgard does! Ok just like Jeuno in XI), original...



- Group Missions/BCNM: Why are we soloing FF Missions !?!?!? Its an MMO i wanna acomplish awsome tasks and deeds with my friends!

Not alone with easy as cake goals/monsters. If i wanna do that ill go play solo RPG.

I don't want a NPC companion to work with me, i want my best friends with me to destroy those evil Galeans! 

(Ok Mission 34 and such were GRP... but soloable and darn eazy) Where is the XI challenge and accomplishments!? 

Missions with rewards also would be fun, like BCNMS and Assaults !



-Spells and WS effects: Ok we were all exited when Maelko (Conj friend) got to 44! and just learned FLARE and others! 

(All of us were drooling to see the spell effect, like in all FF's Flares had cool graphx)

*Maelko casting*... SUSPENCE!.... WAIT FOR IT... ! 1min later, did it come out? whats up?... what the !?

Flare effect sucked bad... and when i mean bad i mean sad/awful/FFtactics flare was better... wait FF6 Flare was better! 

Wth is that!? How can the dev, sit around and talk about spells effect and such and not see/have interest in spell graphics!? 

(Good thing they are changing em the DEVS!)...

And the WS effects, why are we doing the same lame ass motion captured movement for 80% of them, is it that hard!?

GLA/ARC/PUG have 1 thats nice, but LNC/MRD are the 2 that need some cool WS! XI had some pretty cool WS motion/graphx and most of them all different then one another.



-Life outside city walls/Random Quests: For my last topic, i wanna talk about the life outside. Apart from NPC at the Aetheryte camps and others saying you cant go that way, the world seems to be only filled with monsters and wild life. 

Leves get pretty redundant and seeing an NPC lost in the Black Shroud asking for help to recover something somewhere would be pretty fun, no ? And those small villages all around the world, xept for craft quests they arent used for anything... 

why cant there be merchants to sell and buy, a retainer bell so we can empty stuff w/o going back to a major city, some quests (even a leve counter)



Ohhh well, guess i will have to wait for all of that. 

I was very good this year with SE! (staring at CE box) XD 

WE THE FINAL FANTASY FANBOY ARMY merit the best!

And i could add more but ima be cool and let you guyz rant up!



And please SE dont forget MMO's are meant to be played as GRP.



In every FF we learn that friendship can conquer all! Thats what i want!

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  • BoltSaviorBoltSavior Member UncommonPosts: 11

    YEAH TELL EM! SE READ!

  • YamotaYamota Member UncommonPosts: 6,593

    To be honest I think this game is destined to follow games like AoC and WAR, which had huge expectations but failed miserably to meet them. And now they are living a sad existence with consolidated servers and watered down patches.

    Sorry but first impressions last, the sooner the devs learn that, the better.

  • BenthonBenthon Member Posts: 2,069

    *Said many times before by myself and others*

    I think SE thought us FF fanbois would eat anything they put out. Sorry, even the dogs know when to not eat crap.

    He who keeps his cool best wins.

  • BelarionBelarion Member Posts: 570

    Originally posted by Benthon

    *Said many times before by myself and others*

    I think SE thought us FF fanbois would eat anything they put out. Sorry, even the dogs know when to not eat crap.

     

    Yah, like I said in another thread; Hell hath no fury like a fanboy scorned.

     

    I think partying grinding should be a fix that is a bigger priority to SE. They haven't even made mention of the fact that we don't party anymore in their game.

    I love snails.
    I love every kinda snail.
    I just want to hug them all, but I cant.
    Cant hug every snail.

  • birdycephonbirdycephon Member UncommonPosts: 1,314

    Move allong, nothing to see here. This is obviously meant for SE, not you.

    Why do people insist on posting this here, I have no idea. Why not just sent it directly?

  • mrcalhoumrcalhou Member UncommonPosts: 1,444

    Originally posted by birdycephon

    Move allong, nothing to see here. This is obviously meant for SE, not you.

    Why do people insist on posting this here, I have no idea. Why not just sent it directly?

    Awwwww, poor thing.

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  • BoltSaviorBoltSavior Member UncommonPosts: 11

    Its been posted at SE Support center for sure already^^. 

  • AldersAlders Member RarePosts: 2,207

    Originally posted by Belarion

    Originally posted by Benthon

    *Said many times before by myself and others*

    I think SE thought us FF fanbois would eat anything they put out. Sorry, even the dogs know when to not eat crap

     

    I think partying grinding should be a fix that is a bigger priority to SE. They haven't even made mention of the fact that we don't party anymore in their game.

     

    Or how about actual content that isn't grinding on mobs pointlessly for hours on end for no other reason than leveling?

  • BelarionBelarion Member Posts: 570

    Originally posted by Alders

    Originally posted by Belarion


    Originally posted by Benthon

    *Said many times before by myself and others*

    I think SE thought us FF fanbois would eat anything they put out. Sorry, even the dogs know when to not eat crap

     

    I think partying grinding should be a fix that is a bigger priority to SE. They haven't even made mention of the fact that we don't party anymore in their game.

     

    Or how about actual content that isn't grinding on mobs pointlessly for hours on end for no other reason than leveling?

    Content would be good as well. I didnt say its not a priority. I said some degree of priority should be given to the SP issue. As this is an MMO , many people like to party together. Its a big issue that has seen no comment from SE. Thats what I was getting at.

     

    Im not contesting the fact that the game has numerous issues, one of those being content. The game is broken in many ways. One mechanic that is broken is SP and SE needs to make a comment in regards to their plans for SP or fix it already.

    I love snails.
    I love every kinda snail.
    I just want to hug them all, but I cant.
    Cant hug every snail.

  • GetRealGetReal Member Posts: 7

    Originally posted by Benthon

    *Said many times before by myself and others*

    I think SE thought us FF fanbois would eat anything they put out. Sorry, even the dogs know when to not eat crap.

        Yes

  • taus01taus01 Member Posts: 1,352

    I agree with most of your wishes (Chocobo, Airships and Spell visuals) but how did you come to the conclusion that it is not a social game (or GRP game as you put it).

    I want to see anyone achieve anything, be it crafting, leveling or hunting NM without a group. It is simply not possible. Sure, you can level all crafts and gathering classes and make everything yourself, but good luck producing anything even remotely usefull in less than a year.

    Leves can be solod, but just because you can set them to 1* does nto mean you have to. Doing them in a group with 4-5* not only gives you more SP, it also gives vastly better rewards. It's a choice you have, if you choose to do everything in a group it is a GRP game. We, for example, run regular events to take down tougher regular mobs (Morbols, Gobbues etc.) just for fun as a group.

    Just because you are not spoon fed does not mean you can't do it. Of cause most people rather complain endlessly instead of actually using the freedom they are given and have fun.

    Good post.

    "Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"

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  • ParadoxyParadoxy Member Posts: 786

    Originally posted by taus01

    I agree with most of your wishes (Chocobo, Airships and Spell visuals) but how did you come to the conclusion that it is not a social game (or GRP game as you put it).

    I want to see anyone achieve anything, be it crafting, leveling or hunting NM without a group. It is simply not possible. Sure, you can level all crafts and gathering classes and make everything yourself, but good luck producing anything even remotely usefull in less than a year.

    Leves can be solod, but just because you can set them to 1* does nto mean you have to. Doing them in a group with 4-5* not only gives you more SP, it also gives vastly better rewards. It's a choice you have, if you choose to do everything in a group it is a GRP game. We, for example, run regular events to take down tougher regular mobs (Morbols, Gobbues etc.) just for fun as a group.

    Just because you are not spoon fed does not mean you can't do it. Of cause most people rather complain endlessly instead of actually using the freedom they are given and have fun.

    Good post.

    You can craft on your own without much help from anyone. I have been doing it, leveling multiple crafts on one character. Leveling you can go all the way to 50 just hunting coblyns. There is even a leveling guide for soloers on ZAM and FFXIV core. Hunting NM is the little end game so ofcourse you need groups for that. but evrything else can be soloed.

    And please stop using this 'spoon fed' crap. There is hardly any content in game so even if you want to be spoon fed it is not possible. As usual you come in here and start throwing random insults at people.

    Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?


    Originally posted by Arcken

    To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
    Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible

  • taus01taus01 Member Posts: 1,352

    Originally posted by Paradoxy

    Originally posted by taus01

    I agree with most of your wishes (Chocobo, Airships and Spell visuals) but how did you come to the conclusion that it is not a social game (or GRP game as you put it).

    I want to see anyone achieve anything, be it crafting, leveling or hunting NM without a group. It is simply not possible. Sure, you can level all crafts and gathering classes and make everything yourself, but good luck producing anything even remotely usefull in less than a year.

    Leves can be solod, but just because you can set them to 1* does nto mean you have to. Doing them in a group with 4-5* not only gives you more SP, it also gives vastly better rewards. It's a choice you have, if you choose to do everything in a group it is a GRP game. We, for example, run regular events to take down tougher regular mobs (Morbols, Gobbues etc.) just for fun as a group.

    Just because you are not spoon fed does not mean you can't do it. Of cause most people rather complain endlessly instead of actually using the freedom they are given and have fun.

    Good post.

    You can craft on your own without much help from anyone. I have been doing it, leveling multiple crafts on one character. Leveling you can go all the way to 50 just hunting coblyns. There is even a leveling guide for soloers on ZAM and FFXIV core. Hunting NM is the little end game so ofcourse you need groups for that. but evrything else can be soloed.

    And please stop using this 'spoon fed' crap. There is hardly any content in game so even if you want to be spoon fed it is not possible. As usual you come in here and start throwing random insults at people.

    I am sorry if you burst a vein or anything, it's xmas buddy, take a deep breath and relax.

    I did not insult anyone. Maybe to be clear: The spoon fed was not directed at anyone. It was a mere observation that, as you so eloquently stated yourself, there is no spoon feeding in FF14. Thanks for re-enforcing my point though.

    You can craft on your own. But how long will it take you to be able to produce, say, for example a Linen Coate (Blue)? You need: 45 Weaver, 35 Alchemist, 40+ DoW (to farm the moss), 35 Botanist (to get moss and flax).

    And this is a recipe that does not use any Buckles, Leather or decorations and hence does not need an armorsmith, leathercrafter or goldsmith. Of cause you could buy things but thats not going to work since you be spending it all on leveling.

    So, no, you can't play this game solo and enjoy it. It was made as a social game and you need the support of a LS to enjoy it.

    "Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"

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  • CrynswindCrynswind Member Posts: 290

    SE screwed up SP gain in groups,everybody knows that.

    Now it's better to solo grind.

     

    Do you even play the game?

  • taus01taus01 Member Posts: 1,352

    Originally posted by Crynswind

    SE screwed up SP gain in groups,everybody knows that.

    Now it's better to solo grind.

     

    Do you even play the game?

    Yes, i do. I don't like grinding on exp mobs for hours though, not before and not after the patch.

    I do my set of leves with a group of 6-10 people, thrown in some Battlewardens. I then proceed to do crafting leves usually at a camp that has a Battlewarden around my DoW/DoM level and craft while doing a Behest every hour. Thats when i am pretty much done unless we have some event.

    On the weekend we use our faction points acquired during the week to do Faction leves, NM leves and world NM.

    I don't have a problem with the game at all. I am not bored. I have enough content to keep me busy and enjoy my daily playtime.

    Maybe i have lower expectations, or i simply play differently. In any case, i don't understand why everyone is bitching and moaning about a game that is perfectly playable and enjoyable.

     

    PS: I respect that for some people this might not be enough and that they need to gain 10 levels a day and get 50 new rare, super rare and epic items. FF14 is not their game then and they should just go play something else they enjoy.

    "Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"

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  • NikkitaNikkita Member Posts: 790

    Originally posted by taus01

    Originally posted by Crynswind

    SE screwed up SP gain in groups,everybody knows that.

    Now it's better to solo grind.

     

    Do you even play the game?

    Yes, i do. I don't like grinding on exp mobs for hours though, not before and not after the patch.

    I do my set of leves with a group of 6-10 people, thrown in some Battlewardens. I then proceed to do crafting leves usually at a camp that has a Battlewarden around my DoW/DoM level and craft while doing a Behest every hour. Thats when i am pretty much done unless we have some event.

    On the weekend we use our faction points acquired during the week to do Faction leves, NM leves and world NM.

    I don't have a problem with the game at all. I am not bored. I have enough content to keep me busy and enjoy my daily playtime.

    Maybe i have lower expectations, or i simply play differently. In any case, i don't understand why everyone is bitching and moaning about a game that is perfectly playable and enjoyable.

    If you didn't understand uptil now you will never understand. So don't stress yourself too much. However, the condition of game speaks for itself.

    If it was PERFECTLY playable and enjoyable. Tanaka wouldn't be replaced, game won't be free on monthly basis and PS3 version won't be delayed. What i find sad is when Tanaka himself apologises and takes blame for poor state of game while people like you tell everyone its perfectly enjoyable.

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  • DLangleyDLangley Member Posts: 1,407

    Lets avoid baiting other users guys. Thanks!

  • GetRealGetReal Member Posts: 7

    Originally posted by Nikkita

    Originally posted by taus01


    Originally posted by Crynswind

    SE screwed up SP gain in groups,everybody knows that.

    Now it's better to solo grind.

     

    Do you even play the game?

    Yes, i do. I don't like grinding on exp mobs for hours though, not before and not after the patch.

    I do my set of leves with a group of 6-10 people, thrown in some Battlewardens. I then proceed to do crafting leves usually at a camp that has a Battlewarden around my DoW/DoM level and craft while doing a Behest every hour. Thats when i am pretty much done unless we have some event.

    On the weekend we use our faction points acquired during the week to do Faction leves, NM leves and world NM.

    I don't have a problem with the game at all. I am not bored. I have enough content to keep me busy and enjoy my daily playtime.

    Maybe i have lower expectations, or i simply play differently. In any case, i don't understand why everyone is bitching and moaning about a game that is perfectly playable and enjoyable.

    If you didn't understand uptil now you will never understand. So don't stress yourself too much. However, the condition of game speaks for itself.

    If it was PERFECTLY playable and enjoyable. Tanaka wouldn't be replaced, game won't be free on monthly basis and PS3 version won't be delayed. What i find sad is when Tanaka himself apologises and takes blame for poor state of game while people like you tell everyone its perfectly enjoyable.

           Yes.  You can read posts in this forum and see the same flawed logic being posted by the same people over and over yet everything the critics have said has been the truth and every prediction people have made about the game and the developer has also come true.  More than that, the CEO himself has doomed the game by declaring it a failure.  That is suicide in the business world.  The CEO agrees that for the company to survive they need a total restructuring and rebuilding of their entire approach to how they do business.  That is a smart thing to consider but he should have though about that before he spent millions of dollars and wasted 5-6+ years of development on games that both make people despise the company and are not any fun to play.  If DX is less than an amazingly groundbreaking game, the core group of supporters of the company are going to pick up pitchforks and torches and storm the castle.  Somehow with the track record the company has shown over the last few years I don't think DX is going to be breaking any fun factor records.

  • KorPhaeronKorPhaeron Member Posts: 134

    Originally posted by Yamota

    To be honest I think this game is destined to follow games like AoC and WAR, which had huge expectations but failed miserably to meet them. And now they are living a sad existence with consolidated servers and watered down patches.

    Sorry but first impressions last, the sooner the devs learn that, the better.

    FFXIV is a train wreck several orders of magnitude bigger than WAR and AoC combined...

  • ArmaniDevilArmaniDevil Member Posts: 83

    I REALLY tried to love the game. I managed to hit 50 on my combat class, 44 on my main craft and had several others at 20+. 

    Now I was obviously engrossed in the addictive grind for a while... but then it dawned upon me, " Are you really accomplishing anything meaningful (in the context of a game of course)?".  Grinding leves... grinding the same old crappy synth 1000x to level my craft in order to make the item of the week from YG... and for what? 50+ million gil on my character, lvl 48-50 gear in every slot, and still I felt ZERO SATISFACTION.

    Did I burn out? Maybe... but after a solid week away from the game, I still feel there's nothing there to bring me back.  

  • ant211ant211 Member Posts: 54

    i was pretty much the same, i hit 25 on a few jobs and was fairly content with ffxiv...

    since i wasnt paying fee for ffxiv i decided to try cataclysm, it pretty much showed me how pointless ffxiv feels to play.

    i wasnt a big fan of wow before but ffxiv made me like it.

    i havent been back on xiv for a few weeks, hows it doing?

  • BoltSaviorBoltSavior Member UncommonPosts: 11

     

    In my belief... once the make us pay, then they will be satisfied of their own game. Until its free, they will just try and retry  some stuff then patch and repatch.

    10 NM (which some are way to strong, yes even for 15 ppl lvl 50) aint enough. Dropping craft items... ? (yes we all know or have the crafts available to make em) but it would better and cooler for actual gear. (thinking of FFXI and never seen THE drop, 0/27 Haste Belt) 

     

    Search option in Market Wards, now wait a sec, they did not add an AH for/cause of RMT problems. Why add a Search option just like a AH... now. ?

     

    Speaking of RMT. Before the SP lag, RMT  had a very hard time lvling alts (which would be sold)  because they HAD to to do something in a fight to gain SP. Now we see trains of RMT ppl lvling alt while grinding coblyns.... where is the balance in between ? 

     

    And lately ive been reading lots of forums and posts about FFXIV and MMO's and from what i've read the MMO nation loved and cherished FFXI missions and story. Many post were sayin FFXI had the best story/missions. Massive cut-scenes and videos. Long and engulfing story line.

     

    Of course i had fun too at start and i also grinded my ass for the first 3 months. But believe me MMO nation everyone has its limits (even you over achievers) . 

     

    In the end of FFXI we saw a tons of new content and even removed the lvl cap of 75, merely 6 months before FFXIV release. In my mind i thought they did that to see how ppl would react and to test ideas before XIV release. Then re-clarify what worked and what didn't  so that the next project would be near perfect at start at least to them, their own company. (of course you cant please everyone). But no they just did XIV as if XI never existed. Why... ?

     

    So is it dead(ish) until PS3 release.

    Make us pay! Until then its a broken mmo that they are not proud of !

    FF FANBOY BOLT !


  • taus01taus01 Member Posts: 1,352

    Originally posted by Nikkita

    Originally posted by taus01


    Originally posted by Crynswind

    SE screwed up SP gain in groups,everybody knows that.

    Now it's better to solo grind.

     

    Do you even play the game?

    Yes, i do. I don't like grinding on exp mobs for hours though, not before and not after the patch.

    I do my set of leves with a group of 6-10 people, thrown in some Battlewardens. I then proceed to do crafting leves usually at a camp that has a Battlewarden around my DoW/DoM level and craft while doing a Behest every hour. Thats when i am pretty much done unless we have some event.

    On the weekend we use our faction points acquired during the week to do Faction leves, NM leves and world NM.

    I don't have a problem with the game at all. I am not bored. I have enough content to keep me busy and enjoy my daily playtime.

    Maybe i have lower expectations, or i simply play differently. In any case, i don't understand why everyone is bitching and moaning about a game that is perfectly playable and enjoyable.

    If you didn't understand uptil now you will never understand. So don't stress yourself too much. However, the condition of game speaks for itself.

    If it was PERFECTLY playable and enjoyable. Tanaka wouldn't be replaced, game won't be free on monthly basis and PS3 version won't be delayed. What i find sad is when Tanaka himself apologises and takes blame for poor state of game while people like you tell everyone its perfectly enjoyable.

    I don't stress myself at all, it seems you are however.

    Have you ever considered that there are players that don't rush to level cap then burn out. Players that take their time because they have a life outside the game. Players that have as it stands right now, enough content for the next 3 months.

    If you say leves are boring, fair enough, i find WoW/LotRO/AOC... style kill X/Y/Z go to next generic town repeat, type games boring. I find leves to be efficient and a good way to level. And don't give me the quest speech because no one reads those dumb ass quest texts, everyone just grabs all the quests form the NPC's with the (!) above their heads then follows the arrow to the location of the 10 Wolfs you have to kill. Very different indeed, i prefer leves.

    I admit, there where tons of small issues with the game that bugged me. Now that those small issues are all fixed i do enjoy the game as it is. Besides, i don't see anything better out there right now. Nothing that can even remotely compete with FF14 in terms of graphics, crafting and battle system.

    I enjoy a social game in a beatifull environment with my LS, what more can i ask for?

    Merry XMAS

    "Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"

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  • ArmaniDevilArmaniDevil Member Posts: 83

    All the more power to those who are enjoying it. 

    This does not change the fact  that most servers are dead, or near dead. 

    Some people are also mistaking "content" for "grind time". It is true that if one looks at the time required to grind all jobs to 50, then FFXIV can keep one busy for ages.

  • konrad16660konrad16660 Member Posts: 182

    I must say, the only thing that it seems FFXIV has done the best is create the best flame posts.  I compltely agree that this game is the worst MMO of all time.  This is coming from someone that bought the CE box for $85 the day of release.  The great part however is, is that i have saved lots of money by not purchasing any more SE games.  FFXIV was such a shockingly bad experience, it has completely killed my romance with SE.  That doesn't mean that I can't still remember the days of FFVII that were brilliant.  But SE is just a shell of what it used to be.  RIP SE, September of 2010.  I think Ill go wander around with Prinnies "dood" if i want any of my asian gaming fix, because the Chocobo's have Mad Cow.

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