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  • darlok6666darlok6666 Member Posts: 211

    Originally posted by musicmann

    Great, another thread to start a pissing contest between TOR and GW2 fans. Who gives a two rats butthole which game will out do this or that. The choices will always be, you will play and love both. You will only play one or the other or you will not play  either of them. People need to stop trying to get others approval to justify playing a mmorpg or not.

     ^^^ This, the whole GW2 n SWTOR pissing contest is what turned me away from SWTOR as all I saw was flashbacks of the WoW community.

    Both games will have it's own people which it will be tailored to.

    1.  Want lewts and fuel you e-peen?  SWTOR as ANet said that they will not have superior lewts in dungeons...will be for armor set looks only, cosemtic items which I might add they said there will be different layouts of the dungeon so it won't be the exat same thing everytime.

    2.  The more voiceover debate?  Most likely SWTOR as ANet has made a statement that they will not voicover everything and do beleive in an overkill.  If you need voiceovers in everything then chanes are you have an attention span of an 8 yr old and will not get into the lore much which GW2 will have enourmous amounts, they have writers and who have been getting awards for their work as an indicater to their quality.  The Star Wars universe has their's too as their are planty of books.  Also just playing GW's campaign's is a testiment of their quality which they have produced as much content as any top MMO out there if not more.

    3.  GW2 has revealed very little of their mechanics or the specifics while SWTOR has revealed much more, each game is on an entirely different stage of development. 

    4.  Crafting?  Yes a totally fair comparison as the only crafting info we have is that GW2 will be based on dedication to the craft while SWTOR has various pics, announcements, vids yada yada yada.  Personally I don't like SWTOR's style, crafting should be dedication to your craft no EZ mode of SWTOR.  I loved the old style of WoW where you had to hunt recepies down and that required ample amounts of work.

    5.  As far as the bash about GW2 where everyone gets a hit at the node...well I like what they did there.  As we all have that loathing, seething, hatred of the toon that got to the node before you or how they ninjaed that node from you.  That is stress an MMO does not need.

    Personally I see SWTOR sticking to the old formulas of MMOs pretty much, sure there is the story that is new but the major mechanics are pretty much the same.  Instances, the holy trinity, BG equivilent battlegrounds, granted htey threw in some different stuff but nothing that's core mechanics.  What caught my appeal early on was BW's statement that they wold not follow the holy trinity which they have retracted.  In GW2 I see a lot more differences or deviations from the norm of MMOs that has my attention more so than anything.

  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by thedarkess

    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    In Bioware we trust!

  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by romanator0

    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    In Bioware we trust!

  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    So despite being more bestial than human (run on all fours, have horns, muzzle, tail, claws, pads on hands and feet, fur, 2 sets of ears) they are still humanoid? Well, you put up such a good argument that I'm going to have to agree with you. I guess zoos all around the world are going to have to release their bears and apes because they can walk on 2 legs.

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  • UnlightUnlight Member Posts: 2,540

    Originally posted by nomss

    Originally posted by VowOfSilence


    Originally posted by Isane

    Uhm the OP loves to compare apples with pears.

    GW2 and SWTOR are not comparible. One is an arena based end game in ten minutes game.

    The other a triple AAA MMO, with vast open planets , content and storyline. Shame the OP does not realise this.

     It's a shame you still haven't realized that this isn't true.

    I know right. I can't believe that people don't consider GW2 as MMO. I don't get it.

    And I don't even get what this guy is talking about. Are you saying GW2 is not a AAA? or GW2 does not have vast open world, conent and storyline? It is a shame that I don't realize or you are is blindly wrong?

    Man, why are you even falling for this stuff?  Most of the people who are spouting nonsense that is clearly untrue, know that it's untrue.  The sole purpose to doing so is to tick off fans 'in the enemy camp'.  It's not a matter of subjectivity but of spite.  And it goes both ways.  There's more feces being flung back and forth between these two games than in the chimp enclosure at the San Diego zoo.

    Sad that this is what passes for "dicsussion" right now.  The release dates for these games cannot come soon enough.

  • AKASlaphappyAKASlaphappy Member UncommonPosts: 800

    Originally posted by Nazgol

     

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.


    Really you would look like a Charr? So you have horns coming out of you head and fangs protruding out from your jaw? You also have claws that you can retract?


     


    You must be a handsome looking guy! :)

  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by romanator0

    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    So despite being more bestial than human (run on all fours, have horns, muzzle, tail, claws, pads on hands and feet, fur, 2 sets of ears) they are still humanoid? Well, you put up such a good argument that I'm going to have to agree with you. I guess zoos all around the world are going to have to release their bears and apes because they can walk on 2 legs.

    Glad you agree with me. 

    In Bioware we trust!

  • goblagobla Member UncommonPosts: 1,412


    Originally posted by AKASlaphappy
    Oh really, so you are saying that because Master10K did not say “I feel”, “it sounds”, “I see”, or “seems”; that it was just not his opinion or his impressions of the game.   Well then how come when I read it I knew it was his opinion? Is it because I am clairvoyant or something?   So again Gobla what is the difference he gave you his opinion and you gave yours! Then you go on to say how he is making baseless statements in his opinion because he doesn’t have all the facts. Well then where are the facts backing up your opinion? If you are going to demand it of someone else, you better do it yourself then. So where are your facts, like I said have you played through the whole game so you know that it feels like a bunch of random events?  And have you played through Star Wars Tor to know that it is a Story Rich World.   Come on Gobla if you are going to say you need viable complete information, then where is yours? After all from your own mouth "And we all know how theorycrafting reliably leads to the absolute undeniable truth." 
    Sigh....


    Let me give you an example:

    If I say that Twilight seems like a decent book I could be right. The basic premise of a high-school girl falling for a 100 year old vampire could be decent. Especially if taken in a direction like Let the Right One in. Impressions gained from the book could lead to this.

    If I say that Twilight is a decent book however I'd be quite wrong. Because this would require me to actually enjoy reading passages like:


    Originally posted by Stephanie Meyer
    "Aren't you hungry?" he asked, distracted.
    "No." I didn't feel like mentioning that my stomach was already full - full of butterflies.



    Both are based on opinions. The first however implies I've got limited knowledge of the book and am not sure of my opinion. The second implies that I do have sufficient knowledge of the book and am quite sure of my opinion.

    Masker10K can not be sure of his opinion, so should not say that GW2 is a better PvE experience, as he does not have sufficient information.

    I am not sure of my opinion, so I said that I feel SWToR offers a better story, as I do not have sufficient information.

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by AKASlaphappy

    Originally posted by Nazgol


     

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.


    Really you would look like a Charr? So you have horns coming out of you head and fangs protruding out from your jaw? You also have claws that you can retract?


     


    You must be a handsome looking guy! :)

    My wife thinks so, though she likes the drink!

    In Bioware we trust!

  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    So despite being more bestial than human (run on all fours, have horns, muzzle, tail, claws, pads on hands and feet, fur, 2 sets of ears) they are still humanoid? Well, you put up such a good argument that I'm going to have to agree with you. I guess zoos all around the world are going to have to release their bears and apes because they can walk on 2 legs.

    Glad you agree with me. 

    Since you didn't come up with any counterpoints to what I said I'm going to guess that you gave up because you are out of senseless ideas.

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by romanator0

    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    So despite being more bestial than human (run on all fours, have horns, muzzle, tail, claws, pads on hands and feet, fur, 2 sets of ears) they are still humanoid? Well, you put up such a good argument that I'm going to have to agree with you. I guess zoos all around the world are going to have to release their bears and apes because they can walk on 2 legs.

    Glad you agree with me. 

    Since you didn't come up with any counterpoints to what I said I'm going to guess that you gave up because you are out of senseless ideas.

    Not really, Charr are reskinned humanoids no matter how you put it. Just like the races in SWTOR. Sure they are different colors and have horns coming from there head, but they are basically reskiined humans.

    In Bioware we trust!

  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    So despite being more bestial than human (run on all fours, have horns, muzzle, tail, claws, pads on hands and feet, fur, 2 sets of ears) they are still humanoid? Well, you put up such a good argument that I'm going to have to agree with you. I guess zoos all around the world are going to have to release their bears and apes because they can walk on 2 legs.

    Glad you agree with me. 

    Since you didn't come up with any counterpoints to what I said I'm going to guess that you gave up because you are out of senseless ideas.

    Not really, Charr are reskinned humanoids no matter how you put it. Just like the races in SWTOR. Sure they are different colors and have horns coming from there head, but they are basically reskiined humans.

    http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkFxaVp7GO-KKHAGTztrXgynxtLufYT10PeqFskSrkihnsvlGp

    So this is just a reskinned human? I know it's not a charr but your point applies to this as well.

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by romanator0

    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    So despite being more bestial than human (run on all fours, have horns, muzzle, tail, claws, pads on hands and feet, fur, 2 sets of ears) they are still humanoid? Well, you put up such a good argument that I'm going to have to agree with you. I guess zoos all around the world are going to have to release their bears and apes because they can walk on 2 legs.

    Glad you agree with me. 

    Since you didn't come up with any counterpoints to what I said I'm going to guess that you gave up because you are out of senseless ideas.

    Not really, Charr are reskinned humanoids no matter how you put it. Just like the races in SWTOR. Sure they are different colors and have horns coming from there head, but they are basically reskiined humans.

    http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkFxaVp7GO-KKHAGTztrXgynxtLufYT10PeqFskSrkihnsvlGp

    So this is just a reskinned human? I know it's not a charr but your point applies to this as well.

    Doesn't really apply, the char have a lot of human characteristics, the bear has bear characteristcs, well except the ones on the toilet paper commercials those are reskiined humans.. Although if they put a bear race in GW2 I might actuallt be interested.

    In Bioware we trust!

  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by thedarkess


    Originally posted by Nazgol


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul


    Originally posted by romanator0


    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    So despite being more bestial than human (run on all fours, have horns, muzzle, tail, claws, pads on hands and feet, fur, 2 sets of ears) they are still humanoid? Well, you put up such a good argument that I'm going to have to agree with you. I guess zoos all around the world are going to have to release their bears and apes because they can walk on 2 legs.

    Glad you agree with me. 

    Since you didn't come up with any counterpoints to what I said I'm going to guess that you gave up because you are out of senseless ideas.

    Not really, Charr are reskinned humanoids no matter how you put it. Just like the races in SWTOR. Sure they are different colors and have horns coming from there head, but they are basically reskiined humans.

    http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkFxaVp7GO-KKHAGTztrXgynxtLufYT10PeqFskSrkihnsvlGp

    So this is just a reskinned human? I know it's not a charr but your point applies to this as well.

    Doesn't really apply, the char have a lot of human characteristics, the bear has bear characteristcs, well except the ones on the toilet paper commercials those are reskiined humans.. Although if they put a bear race in GW2 I might actuallt be interested.

    If your argument doesn't apply to that picture then your argument is entirely moot and I just wasted time arguing with somebody who has no problem negating their own arguments with just a few words.

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  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    Originally posted by gobla

     










    Sigh....



    Let me give you an example:

    If I say that Twilight seems like a decent book I could be right. The basic premise of a high-school girl falling for a 100 year old vampire could be decent. Especially if taken in a direction like Let the Right One in. Impressions gained from the book could lead to this.

    If I say that Twilight is a decent book however I'd be quite wrong. Because this would require me to actually enjoy reading passages like:

     




    Originally posted by Stephanie Meyer

    "Aren't you hungry?" he asked, distracted.

    "No." I didn't feel like mentioning that my stomach was already full - full of butterflies.






    Both are based on opinions. The first however implies I've got limited knowledge of the book and am not sure of my opinion. The second implies that I do have sufficient knowledge of the book and am quite sure of my opinion.

    Masker10K can not be sure of his opinion, so should not say that GW2 is a better PvE experience, as he does not have sufficient information.

    I am not sure of my opinion, so I said that I feel SWToR offers a better story, as I do not have sufficient information.

    Why are we still dealing with symantics here. I've already accepted that the way I said what I said was incorrect, so let's leave it at that. Anyways I'm surprised this thread hasn't been moderated yet, due to the bullsh*t that is going on above.

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  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601

    Anything that looks or has characteristics of humans is be definition humanoid.  2 arms, 2 legs, how they use them, how they fight, how they dress...  all satisfy that definition.

    Humanoid does not mean being human.  Many people feel that apes are humanoids, and there is a fair amount of evidence backing this.  If that bear started using his arms, acting and moving like we do than yes that bear would be humanoid.

    Venge

    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
  • mafia514mafia514 Member Posts: 148

    Btw charrs are not hammanoid they are beasts and theres another race wich has nothing to do with hammanoids its called sylvaris they came from a plant.

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  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

    Anything that looks or has characteristics of humans is be definition humanoid.  2 arms, 2 legs, how they use them, how they fight, how they dress...  all satisfy that definition.

    Humanoid does not mean being human.  Many people feel that apes are humanoids, and there is a fair amount of evidence backing this.  If that bear started using his arms, acting and moving like we do than yes that bear would be humanoid.

    Venge

    My argument isn't really that charr aren't humanoid. It's that they aren't "reskinned humans".

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by romanator0

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    Originally posted by Kruul

    When I saw this http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/File:Asura.jpg as a playable race I knew GW2 wasnt for me.

    Thats from GW1

    This is from GW2: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Asura

    However, I knew TOR wasn't for me when I didn't see something like this http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Charr as a playable race.

     Just as bad and cartoony. They should just remove that race from the game. It looks horrible

    At least the are bothering to put more than humans in the game.

    All the races in GW2 are humanoid, same as in SWTOR.

    no they are not. Charr run on four legs. they look more like some wild cats.

    So if I paint myself blue and crawl like a baby does it make me not humanoid?

    So you are basically saying that a little kitten is humanoid because the only difference is it has fur and walks on 4 legs?

    They are just reskinned humans. They wear armor, fight standing up, have two legs and two arms a torso.  I mean if I didn't shave in a week they would look just like me.

    So despite being more bestial than human (run on all fours, have horns, muzzle, tail, claws, pads on hands and feet, fur, 2 sets of ears) they are still humanoid? Well, you put up such a good argument that I'm going to have to agree with you. I guess zoos all around the world are going to have to release their bears and apes because they can walk on 2 legs.

    Glad you agree with me. 

    Since you didn't come up with any counterpoints to what I said I'm going to guess that you gave up because you are out of senseless ideas.

    Not really, Charr are reskinned humanoids no matter how you put it. Just like the races in SWTOR. Sure they are different colors and have horns coming from there head, but they are basically reskiined humans.

    http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkFxaVp7GO-KKHAGTztrXgynxtLufYT10PeqFskSrkihnsvlGp

    So this is just a reskinned human? I know it's not a charr but your point applies to this as well.

    Doesn't really apply, the char have a lot of human characteristics, the bear has bear characteristcs, well except the ones on the toilet paper commercials those are reskiined humans.. Although if they put a bear race in GW2 I might actuallt be interested.

    If your argument doesn't apply to that picture then your argument is entirely moot and I just wasted time arguing with somebody who has no problem negating their own arguments with just a few words.

    Not really your picture was not of a char, it's of a bear. If you want to argue bears we can argue them all day. Like why are they so fond of honey? But seriously, you can not sit there and say that the char does not have a lot of human characteristics which make it more human than animal.

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

    Anything that looks or has characteristics of humans is be definition humanoid.  2 arms, 2 legs, how they use them, how they fight, how they dress...  all satisfy that definition.

    Humanoid does not mean being human.  Many people feel that apes are humanoids, and there is a fair amount of evidence backing this.  If that bear started using his arms, acting and moving like we do than yes that bear would be humanoid.

    Venge

    This post wins the prize. Thanks for saying it better than me.

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  • romanator0romanator0 Member Posts: 2,382

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Not really your picture was not of a char, it's of a bear. If you want to argue bears we can argue them all day. Like why are they so fond of honey? But seriously, you can not sit there and say that the char does not have a lot of human characteristics which make it more human than animal.

    Actually, I'm done discussing this with you. I'm not willing to argue with someone who either doesn't understand or is evading (what you are doing) the points I am making.

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  • goblagobla Member UncommonPosts: 1,412

    Originally posted by Master10K

    Why are we still dealing with symantics here. I've already accepted that the way I said what I said was incorrect, so let's leave it at that. Anyways I'm surprised this thread hasn't been moderated yet, due to the bullsh*t that is going on above.

    Nothing at all against you. It's AKASlaphappy I'm arguing against.

    I simply don't enjoy being called a hypocrite when clearly I'm not. At least in this case, I'm sure there's some case somewhere of me being a hypocritical jerk.

    So if AKASlaphappy calls me a hypocrite where I don't deserve it then I will deal with symantics.

    As far as moderation, I don't believe there's any insulting going on yet. While it's no longer the most constructive threat I don't think it's crossed the line yet as to be locked. I don't think there's anything wrong with arguing against each other as long as we don't descend into calling each other poopy-face.

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by romanator0

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Not really your picture was not of a char, it's of a bear. If you want to argue bears we can argue them all day. Like why are they so fond of honey? But seriously, you can not sit there and say that the char does not have a lot of human characteristics which make it more human than animal.

    Actually, I'm done discussing this with you. I'm not willing to argue with someone who either doesn't understand or is evading (what you are doing) the points I am making.

    Me evading? You brought up the bear.. Don't bring a Bear into a cat fight, you will lose everytime.

     

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  • xantrisxantris Member Posts: 38

    I have a feeling people are going to be a little bit underwhelmed by GW2.  

     

    I mean, I'm sure it will be a great game, but its hype is extremely exaggerated.

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