John: We would be happy to do that. The question is, is there enough of a subscriptions base for that. I'm anxious to play that game too, I think they're going to make a great game. Is there still going to be a subscriptions base for Galaxies, or will everyone go play the new game? I'd like to think the games are going to be very different and I think that definitely could happen.
Uh huh..
So, for everyone that claimed the NGE had a healthy playerbase (despite server closures, dead servers during vet trials that we could all witness first hand, dwindling officer numbers in the pvp stats etc etc etc).... ?
...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought.
John: We would be happy to do that. The question is, is there enough of a subscriptions base for that. I'm anxious to play that game too, I think they're going to make a great game. Is there still going to be a subscriptions base for Galaxies, or will everyone go play the new game? I'd like to think the games are going to be very different and I think that definitely could happen.
Uh huh..
So, for everyone that claimed the NGE had a healthy playerbase (despite server closures, dead servers during vet trials that we could all witness first hand, dwindling officer numbers in the pvp stats etc etc etc).... ?
Smedley also made the comment as long as their are enough subscriptions to run the servers they would keep them open.
What that means to meis the price that would cost to renew the license was more than they would garner from subscribers putting a stressed company who already lost a lot of profit this year futher into the red.
This was a money decision, or in this games case lack of enough money to keep the servers up and going and pay the license fee to Lucas arts.
Simple business practice, your in the red you cut off whats running you into the red. Balance sheets speak the loudest in this economy.
Good ol SWG can still get people talking. I have a charater that is 7 1/2 years old on that game, I'll miss him but to be honest I stopped play last November. For me the game is dead, sorry to all those who still play it, I'll sign the petition but I suggest all of you keep your feat grounded, it's not going to happen.
John: We would be happy to do that. The question is, is there enough of a subscriptions base for that. I'm anxious to play that game too, I think they're going to make a great game. Is there still going to be a subscriptions base for Galaxies, or will everyone go play the new game? I'd like to think the games are going to be very different and I think that definitely could happen.
Uh huh..
So, for everyone that claimed the NGE had a healthy playerbase (despite server closures, dead servers during vet trials that we could all witness first hand, dwindling officer numbers in the pvp stats etc etc etc).... ?
Smedley also made the comment as long as their are enough subscriptions to run the servers they would keep them open.
What that means to meis the price that would cost to renew the license was more than they would garner from subscribers putting a stressed company who already lost a lot of profit this year futher into the red.
This was a money decision, or in this games case lack of enough money to keep the servers up and going and pay the license fee to Lucas arts.
Simple business practice, your in the red you cut off whats running you into the red. Balance sheets speak the loudest in this economy.
My point, exactly.
It's reasonable to assume that this game hasn't been profitable for a long time. The problem SOE likely had was the inability to shut it down earlier due to Lucas Arts involvement and probably clauses in the IP license agreement. They took the only out they had, shutting down when the license ran out.
The dev team has been at skeleton staffing levels for the best part of two years, they've shut half the servers, introduced RMT in the form of the TCG and still can't maintain a profit.
It may have taken a while but it's some level of vindication for those of us that quit on 15th Nov. 2005 that SOE got hit with a triple whammy, massive loss of subscriptions, incredibly bad PR and ultimately the demise of what should have been the jewel in their crown.
Unfortunately SOE won't be the only ones to learn a lesson from this, current players are about to experience what most of us did 5 1/2 years ago and for some that may trigger a little more understanding. In fact it's evident already in the way some are attacking SWTOR in the way the 'vets' attacked the NGE. Bitter sweet irony.
...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought.
SWG, for me, will always be that one MMO that was almost a home run: it had the height, it had the distance, but right before it went out of the park it hit the foul pole and bounced the wrong way into the stands.
Minor quibble -- a ball that hits the foul pole is a home run.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Why would anyone really want to save this game, at least in its present form.. lets face it.. SWG has been a joke for years.
isnt it kinder to bury the dead....
Okay, how about all comments about Star Wars Galaxies and all the flaws it has and all the stuff SoE did before to ruin it and everything after... How about because we the customers/fan base/the underdogs, had someone speak for us, make a decision for us without even asking how we felt about it. Because we spent so much time, effort and money into that game. Do any of you like decisions being made for you? In the world we live in now, decisions are being made for us that don't ever benefit us. Yes, we are the underdogs trying to save a game that came to mean so much to us. I'm sure some of you guys have been around a long time and have seen a lot of games come and go and if you EVER spent any sort of time in Star Wars Galaxies, a game that offers such a variety of things to do, you would know what I was talking about. Those people that loved the game so much before pre-NGE and SoE did what they did, you all signed a petition and yes, nothing happened, they turned their backs on you, don't you for once, want to see something positive happen for those of us who love the game just as much as you did, come out on top? This is about standing up for something you believe in and not being run over by a big corporation concerned more about making money than caring about their fan base. Why not stand up and cheer for the underdogs instead of sending scathing remarks or jeers at us? Why not support your fellow gamers for standing up and TRYING to save something so beloved to us? Most of us would still pay hard earned money to play this game to keep it going. I work hard for my money and I have bills like everyone else, but I still would pay.
I know that there are those of you out there rolling your eyes at what I just said, but I speak from my heart and we have to at least try, so please, please, please.. don't ridicule us for what we are trying to do. Give us your support (no matter how lame you think the reason is) do it because you have hearts and because as gamers, we all share the same thing in common, the love of immersing oneself into a fantasy world where you can disappear in just for a little bit before you have to go back to the reality of your real life.
What about all of you still playing that did not stand up for the community and the game when the NGE hit?
Had YOU supported the Pre-NGE version, maybe non of us would had been out of SWG this December.
This is Karma.
Blaming the players. Classic.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Much like when currnet players blame the inability of SWG to gain players, because angry former players say bad things about the game.
In the end SWG was not good enough to remain in business.
Yep, and they're wrong too.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Perhaps this may be a good opportunity for me to ask my grandparents to purchase the development license for SWG. The real problem is finding an experienced development team willing to revive it and make it a better sandbox.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
SWG died a long time ago when they sacrificed a game that was groundbreaking and unique for what they thought was the more popular watered down MMO choice.
Smedly is a tool; a true douche. I cant believe anyone would hire him based on his obissmal business decisions.
He and his band of moneygrubbers never cared about what was right for Star Wars fans or Sandbox MMO fans, so they ruined what was IMHO the best MMO ever created, and pure pride wouldnt let them roll it back.
Petition for what?...to save a subscription game that has spent ten years trying be as good as it used to be without being what it used to be? Heck the new game plays worse than most F2P games now days...No I will not be signing
Bottom line is that SOE would be stupid to pay LA for the rights to the licence, since they would never return a profit on that investment.
Now if SOE was smart, they would build a new sci-fi mmo with the non-class system that was SWG before NGE. Take the good stuff from SWG like the, sandbox theme, professions, crafting, exploration, and space flight. Then create a soild combat system, and sit back and rake the cash in.
I agree Brix, but I think that the problem with such a game gets back to the basic "skill based" versus "class based" argument with regards to the balance angle.
Trying to balance a game with so many combinations of builds is difficult. You end up with endless nerfs and then the resulting "build of the month" as a result. It's an endless cycle.
I'm of the opinion that SWG combat in all three of it's iterations was utter crap.
But, if such a game was to be made, I'd support the idea of a class based system layered over all the other elements that made SWG great.
SOE had the right idea in the end, although I agree that changing a game midstream so much as they did is also not a great idea. Also, it didn't help that their systems and implementation absolutely sucked.
There are people who liked the game and played it.It reminds me of AC2 when loads of AC1 players were happy it died and honestly i felt pretty sad because i was one of the few thousands that enjoyed AC2 but got caught in the tangle of microsoft poor billing.
Both AC2 and SWG have one of the best communities ever ,something WoW can only dream of .
To this people i say remember the good times and please make videos on youtube so no one would forget that a great community once existed on SWG.
Bottom line is that SOE would be stupid to pay LA for the rights to the licence, since they would never return a profit on that investment.
Now if SOE was smart, they would build a new sci-fi mmo with the non-class system that was SWG before NGE. Take the good stuff from SWG like the, sandbox theme, professions, crafting, exploration, and space flight. Then create a soild combat system, and sit back and rake the cash in.
It amazes me how dense SOE can be.
Game Over
Well you never know they may do this since they have an undisclosed sandbox mmorpg in dev apparently and it cannot be psnext or EQnext so maybe it is a pre cu sci fi mmo.
The GCW gets revamped every other year. SOE spent minimal effort to support the game and most likely they are contractually obligated to do so. Still most of that support the last few years has been spent on the virtual loot card money grab. SOE gave up on SWG ever being a viable product again a long time ago.
As for Lucas Arts forcing the game to close, where do you get that from? Lucas Arts can't force SOE to resign the deal and force them to operate a game that is dead. They cannot force SOE to pay the licenising fee. Just like they can't force SOE to do the NGE. Give credit where credit is due. Would you spend a bucket of money to license this game, support it for years and compete with SWTOR just to placate a few hundred players?
People didn't avoid SWG, because they feared it would go through yet another major change. They avoided it, because it was a poorly made game in a market filled with better alternatives. Each successive massive change (and series of minor changes) have made the game worse and worse with few bright spots in between. It just isn't a quality game.
If SWG was a better game more people would play it regardless of what some angry former players say and Smed would be announcing a contract extension. That isn't the case so they are closing the game.
Do you actuall play SWG? I am guessing not, as you are completely clueless.
I only said people feared it woulld go through another change because that is all I read on these forums. Guess I must have inagined it then
Looking at the majority of the reviews on Amazon give it one star, and are all mainly given between 2005-2006 when the game was bad. People see that and would steer clear especialloy with a fee. Guess we all forgot that, and to do reviews to counter them all.
SWG players have always been quite loud, and any polls pop up can get SWG to the top.
This time every player will affected when SWG closes, not just a handful, whereas the others just accepted the NGE and moved on or didn't want to burn the bridge.. Everyone will have a reason to bash TOR for Lucasarts decision after SWG closes
Yes SWG was destined to close, but now is not the time. THis puts me off playing any MMO now, if LA can get away with this.
Imagine if another company decides to release a new MMO similar to the one you are playing, and then they decide to close it when the game is still thriving and loads of people are enjoying it
SWG needs to be saved, to show that thiese companies can not get away with dictating how we play our games. It is obvious they are cancelling it because of TOR. LA are the ones who wanted to cancel the game, there is no evidence to suppot SOE was all for this. The contract ends well into 2012 not end of 2011
Anyone not willing to sign this, are against fellow players, and are with these companies. Both SOE and LA will survive no problem without SWG, as they want this.
If there really is not anything they can do, then no matter the number of those sigs wil change their mind, if they have no money for it, and you will have your wish, but if they do change their mind because of it, then they are only doing it for the benefit of themselves and not us players, and will do anything they like to their games, including being frree to screw up a game you are fond of, and that may be TOR. If LA does not screw up TOR then SWG players will with their anger
So, by not signing the petition, you are only hurting the players including yourself, and not SOE or LA
The GCW gets revamped every other year. SOE spent minimal effort to support the game and most likely they are contractually obligated to do so. Still most of that support the last few years has been spent on the virtual loot card money grab. SOE gave up on SWG ever being a viable product again a long time ago.
As for Lucas Arts forcing the game to close, where do you get that from? Lucas Arts can't force SOE to resign the deal and force them to operate a game that is dead. They cannot force SOE to pay the licenising fee. Just like they can't force SOE to do the NGE. Give credit where credit is due. Would you spend a bucket of money to license this game, support it for years and compete with SWTOR just to placate a few hundred players?
People didn't avoid SWG, because they feared it would go through yet another major change. They avoided it, because it was a poorly made game in a market filled with better alternatives. Each successive massive change (and series of minor changes) have made the game worse and worse with few bright spots in between. It just isn't a quality game.
If SWG was a better game more people would play it regardless of what some angry former players say and Smed would be announcing a contract extension. That isn't the case so they are closing the game.
Do you actuall play SWG? I am guessing not, as you are completely clueless.
I only said people feared it woulld go through another change because that is all I read on these forums. Guess I must have inagined it then
Looking at the majority of the reviews on Amazon give it one star, and are all mainly given between 2005-2006 when the game was bad. People see that and would steer clear especialloy with a fee. Guess we all forgot that, and to do reviews to counter them all.
SWG players have always been quite loud, and any polls pop up can get SWG to the top.
This time every player will affected when SWG closes, not just a handful, whereas the others just accepted the NGE and moved on or didn't want to burn the bridge.. Everyone will have a reason to bash TOR for Lucasarts decision after SWG closes
Yes SWG was destined to close, but now is not the time. THis puts me off playing any MMO now, if LA can get away with this.
Imagine if another company decides to release a new MMO similar to the one you are playing, and then they decide to close it when the game is still thriving and loads of people are enjoying it
SWG needs to be saved, to show that thiese companies can not get away with dictating how we play our games. It is obvious they are cancelling it because of TOR. LA are the ones who wanted to cancel the game, there is no evidence to suppot SOE was all for this. The contract ends well into 2012 not end of 2011
Anyone not willing to sign this, are against fellow players, and are with these companies. Both SOE and LA will survive no problem without SWG, as they want this.
If there really is not anything they can do, then no matter the number of those sigs wil change their mind, if they have no money for it, and you will have your wish, but if they do change their mind because of it, then they are only doing it for the benefit of themselves and not us players, and will do anything they like to their games, including being frree to screw up a game you are fond of, and that may be TOR. If LA does not screw up TOR then SWG players will with their anger
So, by not signing the petition, you are only hurting the players including yourself, and not SOE or LA
Hello you don't speak for me, and I am played SWG from the get go. Let me say this and say it once. The NGE killed the game for me. The cu I lived through it and tolerated it.
But to put all that BS in your post on how this was going to make me bash LA and Bio-ware for making TOR is laughable at best. I mean gosh you really thing all of us swg vets want to save this game, I THINK NOT!!!
I am not going to sign the petition. I remember back when the NGE hit all the petitions and all to reverse it, and here you are again going zomg we got to stop this, and all I got to say is not this time.
Hey it is their company and their software, they can do with it as they like.
Do you actuall play SWG? I am guessing not, as you are completely clueless.
I only said people feared it woulld go through another change because that is all I read on these forums. Guess I must have inagined it then
Looking at the majority of the reviews on Amazon give it one star, and are all mainly given between 2005-2006 when the game was bad. People see that and would steer clear especialloy with a fee. Guess we all forgot that, and to do reviews to counter them all.
SWG players have always been quite loud, and any polls pop up can get SWG to the top.
This time every player will affected when SWG closes, not just a handful, whereas the others just accepted the NGE and moved on or didn't want to burn the bridge.. Everyone will have a reason to bash TOR for Lucasarts decision after SWG closes
Yes SWG was destined to close, but now is not the time. THis puts me off playing any MMO now, if LA can get away with this.
Imagine if another company decides to release a new MMO similar to the one you are playing, and then they decide to close it when the game is still thriving and loads of people are enjoying it
SWG needs to be saved, to show that thiese companies can not get away with dictating how we play our games. It is obvious they are cancelling it because of TOR. LA are the ones who wanted to cancel the game, there is no evidence to suppot SOE was all for this. The contract ends well into 2012 not end of 2011
Anyone not willing to sign this, are against fellow players, and are with these companies. Both SOE and LA will survive no problem without SWG, as they want this.
If there really is not anything they can do, then no matter the number of those sigs wil change their mind, if they have no money for it, and you will have your wish, but if they do change their mind because of it, then they are only doing it for the benefit of themselves and not us players, and will do anything they like to their games, including being frree to screw up a game you are fond of, and that may be TOR. If LA does not screw up TOR then SWG players will with their anger
So, by not signing the petition, you are only hurting the players including yourself, and not SOE or LA
I do not understand how anyone is dictating how you play your games. The game is closing. Thats it. No one is making you play TOR or anything else.
You seem to believe that as a consumer you are owed something beyond what you got for your 15 a month. You are not. You never had any say in the direction of this or any other game. You paid and you played. That was the deal.
You are the one that got all emotionally invested in a video game.
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You forgot 'Lucas Arts forced SOE to do this'.
Yeah, even though everyone associated with the game has said otherwise.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
From what LucasArts has already said publicly already, they see a scenario where The Old Republic and Star Wars Galaxies are happily co-existing. Is that something SOE is committed to as well?
John: We would be happy to do that. The question is, is there enough of a subscriptions base for that. I'm anxious to play that game too, I think they're going to make a great game. Is there still going to be a subscriptions base for Galaxies, or will everyone go play the new game? I'd like to think the games are going to be very different and I think that definitely could happen.
Uh huh..
So, for everyone that claimed the NGE had a healthy playerbase (despite server closures, dead servers during vet trials that we could all witness first hand, dwindling officer numbers in the pvp stats etc etc etc).... ?
...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought.
Smedley also made the comment as long as their are enough subscriptions to run the servers they would keep them open.
What that means to meis the price that would cost to renew the license was more than they would garner from subscribers putting a stressed company who already lost a lot of profit this year futher into the red.
This was a money decision, or in this games case lack of enough money to keep the servers up and going and pay the license fee to Lucas arts.
Simple business practice, your in the red you cut off whats running you into the red. Balance sheets speak the loudest in this economy.
thats what I was thinking....
Good ol SWG can still get people talking. I have a charater that is 7 1/2 years old on that game, I'll miss him but to be honest I stopped play last November. For me the game is dead, sorry to all those who still play it, I'll sign the petition but I suggest all of you keep your feat grounded, it's not going to happen.
My point, exactly.
It's reasonable to assume that this game hasn't been profitable for a long time. The problem SOE likely had was the inability to shut it down earlier due to Lucas Arts involvement and probably clauses in the IP license agreement. They took the only out they had, shutting down when the license ran out.
The dev team has been at skeleton staffing levels for the best part of two years, they've shut half the servers, introduced RMT in the form of the TCG and still can't maintain a profit.
It may have taken a while but it's some level of vindication for those of us that quit on 15th Nov. 2005 that SOE got hit with a triple whammy, massive loss of subscriptions, incredibly bad PR and ultimately the demise of what should have been the jewel in their crown.
Unfortunately SOE won't be the only ones to learn a lesson from this, current players are about to experience what most of us did 5 1/2 years ago and for some that may trigger a little more understanding. In fact it's evident already in the way some are attacking SWTOR in the way the 'vets' attacked the NGE. Bitter sweet irony.
...The spread of secondary and latterly of tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought.
Minor quibble -- a ball that hits the foul pole is a home run.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Blaming the players. Classic.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Much like when currnet players blame the inability of SWG to gain players, because angry former players say bad things about the game.
In the end SWG was not good enough to remain in business.
Agreed.
Enjoy your time invested and note that nothing is permenent. We're all vibrating bits of starlight man, and in due time even those servers will close.
Yep, and they're wrong too.
So I started to walk into the water. I won't lie to you boys...I was terrified. But I pressed on, and as I made my way past the breakers, a strange calm came over me. I don't know if it was divine intervention or the kinship of all living things, but I tell you, Jerry, at that moment ... I was a marine biologist.
Perhaps this may be a good opportunity for me to ask my grandparents to purchase the development license for SWG. The real problem is finding an experienced development team willing to revive it and make it a better sandbox.
Is there a Petition to stop this Petition?
I'm with Joe.
Give it up, lads!
Let the old girl die with whatever dignity she has left.
I would sign a petition to have people ignore the petition. Good idea!
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
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FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
SWG died a long time ago when they sacrificed a game that was groundbreaking and unique for what they thought was the more popular watered down MMO choice.
Smedly is a tool; a true douche. I cant believe anyone would hire him based on his obissmal business decisions.
He and his band of moneygrubbers never cared about what was right for Star Wars fans or Sandbox MMO fans, so they ruined what was IMHO the best MMO ever created, and pure pride wouldnt let them roll it back.
Petition for what?...to save a subscription game that has spent ten years trying be as good as it used to be without being what it used to be? Heck the new game plays worse than most F2P games now days...No I will not be signing
Bottom line is that SOE would be stupid to pay LA for the rights to the licence, since they would never return a profit on that investment.
Now if SOE was smart, they would build a new sci-fi mmo with the non-class system that was SWG before NGE. Take the good stuff from SWG like the, sandbox theme, professions, crafting, exploration, and space flight. Then create a soild combat system, and sit back and rake the cash in.
It amazes me how dense SOE can be.
Game Over
I agree Brix, but I think that the problem with such a game gets back to the basic "skill based" versus "class based" argument with regards to the balance angle.
Trying to balance a game with so many combinations of builds is difficult. You end up with endless nerfs and then the resulting "build of the month" as a result. It's an endless cycle.
I'm of the opinion that SWG combat in all three of it's iterations was utter crap.
But, if such a game was to be made, I'd support the idea of a class based system layered over all the other elements that made SWG great.
SOE had the right idea in the end, although I agree that changing a game midstream so much as they did is also not a great idea. Also, it didn't help that their systems and implementation absolutely sucked.
There are people who liked the game and played it.It reminds me of AC2 when loads of AC1 players were happy it died and honestly i felt pretty sad because i was one of the few thousands that enjoyed AC2 but got caught in the tangle of microsoft poor billing.
Both AC2 and SWG have one of the best communities ever ,something WoW can only dream of .
To this people i say remember the good times and please make videos on youtube so no one would forget that a great community once existed on SWG.
Well you never know they may do this since they have an undisclosed sandbox mmorpg in dev apparently and it cannot be psnext or EQnext so maybe it is a pre cu sci fi mmo.
Do you actuall play SWG? I am guessing not, as you are completely clueless.
I only said people feared it woulld go through another change because that is all I read on these forums. Guess I must have inagined it then
Looking at the majority of the reviews on Amazon give it one star, and are all mainly given between 2005-2006 when the game was bad. People see that and would steer clear especialloy with a fee. Guess we all forgot that, and to do reviews to counter them all.
SWG players have always been quite loud, and any polls pop up can get SWG to the top.
This time every player will affected when SWG closes, not just a handful, whereas the others just accepted the NGE and moved on or didn't want to burn the bridge.. Everyone will have a reason to bash TOR for Lucasarts decision after SWG closes
Yes SWG was destined to close, but now is not the time. THis puts me off playing any MMO now, if LA can get away with this.
Imagine if another company decides to release a new MMO similar to the one you are playing, and then they decide to close it when the game is still thriving and loads of people are enjoying it
SWG needs to be saved, to show that thiese companies can not get away with dictating how we play our games. It is obvious they are cancelling it because of TOR. LA are the ones who wanted to cancel the game, there is no evidence to suppot SOE was all for this. The contract ends well into 2012 not end of 2011
Anyone not willing to sign this, are against fellow players, and are with these companies. Both SOE and LA will survive no problem without SWG, as they want this.
If there really is not anything they can do, then no matter the number of those sigs wil change their mind, if they have no money for it, and you will have your wish, but if they do change their mind because of it, then they are only doing it for the benefit of themselves and not us players, and will do anything they like to their games, including being frree to screw up a game you are fond of, and that may be TOR. If LA does not screw up TOR then SWG players will with their anger
So, by not signing the petition, you are only hurting the players including yourself, and not SOE or LA
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Hello you don't speak for me, and I am played SWG from the get go. Let me say this and say it once. The NGE killed the game for me. The cu I lived through it and tolerated it.
But to put all that BS in your post on how this was going to make me bash LA and Bio-ware for making TOR is laughable at best. I mean gosh you really thing all of us swg vets want to save this game, I THINK NOT!!!
I am not going to sign the petition. I remember back when the NGE hit all the petitions and all to reverse it, and here you are again going zomg we got to stop this, and all I got to say is not this time.
Hey it is their company and their software, they can do with it as they like.
I do not understand how anyone is dictating how you play your games. The game is closing. Thats it. No one is making you play TOR or anything else.
You seem to believe that as a consumer you are owed something beyond what you got for your 15 a month. You are not. You never had any say in the direction of this or any other game. You paid and you played. That was the deal.
You are the one that got all emotionally invested in a video game.
LA does not care what people think. They want this closed so TOR will get maximum sales.
Nothing anyone says will change that.