I dont think it lore breaking at all that there exists a game in the Star Wars universe that was not noted in the books. What is lore breaking is that jedi and sith can play on the same side in huttball but nowhere else in SWTOR. A mmo universe should be self consistent.
actually its been clarifyed that jedi and sith can not be on the same team. they just meant it can be empire vs empire or republic vs republic in addition to standard republic vs empire
I have to 'unconfirm' this confirmation, it is inaccurate, maybe a translation or transcription error as well.
While at some point we had faction mixed teams during testing, the design for the game currently does not involve players of different factions mixing in the same team.
It is however possible for two teams of the same faction to meet each other in The Pit.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.
So many take these MMOs way too seriously.
MMOs are not just g a m e s...
MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games. MMOs are supposed to be more serious than "just a game".
so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.
You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->
Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.
So many take these MMOs way too seriously.
MMOs are not just g a m e s...
MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.
so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.
You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way----------------------->
Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.
Well, I think mmo's can be anything the developers want them to be.
Like everything they don't have to just be one thing.
Some might be more like games and some might be more like worlds.
As far as Huttball, well "one's mileage may vary".
I recently spoke to someone who played it and thought it was fun. He would't go into any detail (nor did I press him) because he's under nda. but he did say he found it fun. That was pretty much it.
sooooo some players will hate it and some will like it. As it should be.
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i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.
So many take these MMOs way too seriously.
MMOs are not just g a m e s...
MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.
so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.
You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->
Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.
Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.
So many take these MMOs way too seriously.
MMOs are not just g a m e s...
MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.
so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.
You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->
Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.
Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.
Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.
It's funny how so many people wonder why they can't seem to find that game to hook them back in to the mmorpg genre. I'm sorry, but with your nit-picking you will never find a mmo to play. You're acting like a child.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.
So many take these MMOs way too seriously.
MMOs are not just g a m e s...
MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.
so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.
You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->
Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.
Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.
Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.
Actually they are JUST games. I think that's the biggest problem with the genre, so many players can't realise that simple fact. they are meant to entertain, they aren't meant to provide you with your little fantasy reality world. There is nothing real about them. They're set in a fake, made up world, so how can you even bring "reality" into the conversation?
Just because something wasnt in the books doesnt mean it didnt happen. I think its a given that lots of stuff was going on that was not 'documented'. As long as huttball does not actually conflict with the story or the mmo world then its just fine. And I dont think it does. Any real person living in the star wars world would have recreational time and its not unlikely they would play games. Do you know any person in the real world that does not have out of work time to blow off steam? Even nazi germany took time to play at the olympics.
It's funny how so many people wonder why they can't seem to find that game to hook them back in to the mmorpg genre. I'm sorry, but with your nit-picking you will never find a mmo to play. You're acting like a child.
Your right I am acting like a child... throwing a tantrum... because on the internet there is not much else I can do.
Is there?
I will apologise. I do my best to respect everyone's opinions, but some of the readers here have opinions about MMOs that I find as "fighting words" so to speak.
I care about this genre (MMOs) and I am upset when people show up and try to tell me what I can and cannot say... yet they can say anything they want and it's OK just because they are young and are "following the trend".
Screw the trend. A few of us enjoy MMOs as they were and we still enjoy MMOs. I still play MMOs (3 of them actually).
That's why people like me get so upset when someone says they have a better difinition of what a MMO should be and about how a MMO is supposed to be designed... who says they get to rewrite the definition? I didn't write the definition for pete's sake (none of us did and that's why we argue about it now), but there was a kind of general consesus through the years and I am recalling what was told me in guild chat and in world chat by players of quite a few MMOs over the years. Trust me MMO players discussed what MMOs were and what they weren't a zillion times through the years.
Now just because some young people start playing and want to change MMOs it's OK?
Just because they don't like MMOs as they are they think its ok to call for MMOs to be redesigned to suit them?
No it isn't "OK". Not to me it isn't.
If someone changed Football every few months the fans would revolt (both Footballs).
When in a few years time MMOs are pressured to change again and change into something the players NOW would object to, then the young players calling for change now will then understand how I and others feel about all this.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.
So many take these MMOs way too seriously.
it's not a game once when someone invests 100mill into it. it's more like...a simulacrum, or business, a means of controlling the masses, etc. in other words, with that kind of money, there's an agenda behind it. if that agenda is "creating a deeply immersive sci fi world" or something, then TOR fails.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.
So many take these MMOs way too seriously.
MMOs are not just g a m e s...
MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.
so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.
You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->
Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.
Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.
Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.
Actually they are JUST games. I think that's the biggest problem with the genre, so many players can't realise that simple fact. they are meant to entertain, they aren't meant to provide you with your little fantasy reality world. There is nothing real about them. They're set in a fake, made up world, so how can you even bring "reality" into the conversation?
I respectfully disagree with you. Your understanding of what a MMO is and is not... is far different than my own point of view.
We will never agree.
I apologise if I offended you in my disagreement to your point of view.
this post is pretty dumb, for the OP if you want jedi and sith have always partook in sport, whether that be Pod racing, or duels for money. The idea behind huttball is to show the true power that the hutts had beack in the old republic days. And for the people nit picking, if you think about it, the mmo you are bashing on so hard is only bad because you make it so, maybe try going into it with an open mind and who knows you just might like it.
this post is pretty dumb, for the OP if you want jedi and sith have always partook in sport, whether that be Pod racing, or duels for money. The idea behind huttball is to show the true power that the hutts had beack in the old republic days. And for the people nit picking, if you think about it, the mmo you are bashing on so hard is only bad because you make it so, maybe try going into it with an open mind and who knows you just might like it.
I agree. Huttball is almost as absurd as the 2-headed Pod Racing announcer that was in Episode 1. The announcer was more annoying to me than Jar Jar was.
i was considering maybe trying the trial of TOR one day, but with circus acts like this one wrecking every possibility of immersion, i wouldnt touch this game with a stick even if it was f2p.
how do you guys feel about Huttball? will you take your Jedi Master Sage or lvl 80 Inquisitor to play space football when theyre taking a break from seeing into the future, meditating, and toppling empires?
It is a game. A game. A ... g a m e.
So many take these MMOs way too seriously.
MMOs are not just g a m e s...
MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games.
so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.
You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->
Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.
Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.
Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.
Actually they are JUST games. I think that's the biggest problem with the genre, so many players can't realise that simple fact. they are meant to entertain, they aren't meant to provide you with your little fantasy reality world. There is nothing real about them. They're set in a fake, made up world, so how can you even bring "reality" into the conversation?
I respectfully disagree with you. Your understanding of what a MMO is and is not... is far different than my own point of view.
We will never agree.
I apologise if I offended you in my disagreement to your point of view.
Virtual Reality or not there is not one thing that will effect your gameplay if you so choose to or not. Huttball is not mandatory.
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Another "We as a company see to it that you get the most comical, color-laden, ridiculous, deteriorated star wars experience ever to be developed".
You know, the whole "clone-wars"-lookalike already had me rolleyeing 18 months ago.
If you "Phantom menace is teh best thing evar"-people can overlook the fact that LA has been a**r**ing the franchise for a decade now culminating in the comical cataclysm that is TOR, good for you. But in my book, even the star trek flaying over at Cryptic pales compared to what they do to Star Wars.
And no, I'm not talking about "serious bizniz", I love Warhammer for example, I love not-so-serious approaches, but Star Wars was never meant to be a comic book lookalike for kids. I know LA decides what is SW and what isn't. I don't give a damn; SW is what the movies of the 70s conveyed, anything else is bullshit.
It is called immersion. These two factions are out to completely wipe out each other so seeing them playing a silly game against each other is what is absurd.
First what's absurd is taking the lore of an IP too seriously to the extent you start puting it before fun, as you're doing. Second, this wasn't an addition based on story, immersion or any of those things, it's sole purpose is having some fun and avoiding regular PVP, at times when the two sides are unbalanced. Most emphasis is on fun, of course.
If Immersion is the problem, you would never have to worry about that if you decide to skip the feature.
Part the disconnect I think is that it's very at odds with the character of how they are portraying the rest of the game....which seems to emphasize story and dramatic narritive and even moral choices.....and then there's "Oh by the way, we've got Huttball too.". It just doesn't seem to line up with the rest of the presentation of the game (IMO)....or at least what it seems to be trying to be.
If this were WOW for example....I could totaly see it. Because WOW doesn't present itself all that seriously in the first place. Half of WOW's content is tongue n' cheek anyway. It's constantly lampooning itself, so another lampoon doesn't feel out of place. That's not generaly the vibe I get from Bioware games....they tend to try to present themselves more seriously.
It's kinda like a slap-stick scene stuck in the middle of a tear-jerker. I mean, even if the scene in isolation is quite funny itself....alot of folks would be like "Ok what the heck was that doing in there?"
It's why I called it "bizarre"..... as it seems a very strange choice that doesn't seem to fit very well with the other things they seem to be aiming for with the game experience.
I mean, if they are going to allow "Huttball" why not allow pink armor....or a companion droid that has a T-shirt saying "I'm with stupid -> " ?
You people who get butthurt about not rigidly adhering to lore do know that you're taking on the role of a fictional character in a fictional world, right? Therefore, the canon is also fictional, and therefore fluid enough to change anyway the writer's imagination sees fit?
No? I think you should check into a "special" hospital soon to get your head checked.
Ok, this ones just bizarre. While I could totaly see a Hutt running something like this.... it really boggles the imagination to see the Jedi Order or the Republic Millitary (or even the Sith or Imperial Millitary) approving of thier members of partaking of something like this. I could see maybe Bounty Hunters or Smugglers.... maybe even the odd Imperial Agent under cover.....going for it...but Jedi, really?
I mean, I'm really not up on my Star Wars Lore...but this doesn't make sense to me.
Jedi Master: " Beware Anger, Hatred, Agression...young Padawan...for these are the path to the Dark Side. When you are Calm and at Peace..then you are at one with the Force. "
Padawan: "Yes, Master."
Jedi Master: "Great, now lets go play some Huttball and carve up the opposing team for the entertainment of the Hutts. We can cash in on some nice prizes if we win."
I think i answered this before, but i'll do it again, not every jedi or sith follow the code so strictly as to follow the code to the letter. In fact considering there can be dark jedi in this game there is most certainly a chance a few jedi will just say forget (self censor on that one) the consoul i'm going to do my own thing, bring on the violence, anything to harm the other side (empire).
Plus we don't know story wise if the jedi even condone this action they may discourage you from doing it, but the game allows you to do it anyway.
On a mechanic end theres several ways you could do this lore wise but you run into a problem anytime you try to do this.
You can either restrict it to classes restricting the jedi but then the people who roll jedi will feel cheated and wil say oh so i can basically turn against the jedi, turn to the dark side of the force, and get grey skin and other things related to the dark side but because of my class i can't play this game..that makes no sense mechanic wise, not ot mention the sith the other force weilders can play.
If you restrict it to just non force weilders then you get the problem of uneven class balance, people will tend to play non force weilders because they'd prefer to get the full game rather then a limited version.
If you restrict it to a certain dark side rating then you get the very problem they are trying to avoid with the allignment which is the fact of people just selecting light or dark side choices instead of what they wanted to just get a certain alignment rating. So this option is no good.
So either you restrict players or force them to play a certain way in order to get access to this game.
Now you could say they shouldn't have included the game at all. In which case i'd ask a suggestion of what they could put in instead of this. Something that isn't capture the flag, hold this point or kill a certain number of enemies because we've seen that in nearly every MMO, plus that would just be a duplicate of what is already in game
I think there are alot of mini-game choices they could have done that would have kept in character. How about a game of virtual combat chess like the on we saw played on the Milenium Falcon in the origional movie. Or possible even just make it so the combatants competing were holographic projections of themselves. At least that would have removed the "bloodsport" aspect of it...that would at least make it a bit more palitable from a RP perspective for Jedi characters....without really changing much for anyone else.
Ok, this ones just bizarre. While I could totaly see a Hutt running something like this.... it really boggles the imagination to see the Jedi Order or the Republic Millitary (or even the Sith or Imperial Millitary) approving of thier members of partaking of something like this. I could see maybe Bounty Hunters or Smugglers.... maybe even the odd Imperial Agent under cover.....going for it...but Jedi, really?
I mean, I'm really not up on my Star Wars Lore...but this doesn't make sense to me.
Jedi Master: " Beware Anger, Hatred, Agression...young Padawan...for these are the path to the Dark Side. When you are Calm and at Peace..then you are at one with the Force. "
Padawan: "Yes, Master."
Jedi Master: "Great, now lets go play some Huttball and carve up the opposing team for the entertainment of the Hutts. We can cash in on some nice prizes if we win."
I think i answered this before, but i'll do it again, not every jedi or sith follow the code so strictly as to follow the code to the letter. In fact considering there can be dark jedi in this game there is most certainly a chance a few jedi will just say forget (self censor on that one) the consoul i'm going to do my own thing, bring on the violence, anything to harm the other side (empire).
Plus we don't know story wise if the jedi even condone this action they may discourage you from doing it, but the game allows you to do it anyway.
On a mechanic end theres several ways you could do this lore wise but you run into a problem anytime you try to do this.
You can either restrict it to classes restricting the jedi but then the people who roll jedi will feel cheated and wil say oh so i can basically turn against the jedi, turn to the dark side of the force, and get grey skin and other things related to the dark side but because of my class i can't play this game..that makes no sense mechanic wise, not ot mention the sith the other force weilders can play.
If you restrict it to just non force weilders then you get the problem of uneven class balance, people will tend to play non force weilders because they'd prefer to get the full game rather then a limited version.
If you restrict it to a certain dark side rating then you get the very problem they are trying to avoid with the allignment which is the fact of people just selecting light or dark side choices instead of what they wanted to just get a certain alignment rating. So this option is no good.
So either you restrict players or force them to play a certain way in order to get access to this game.
Now you could say they shouldn't have included the game at all. In which case i'd ask a suggestion of what they could put in instead of this. Something that isn't capture the flag, hold this point or kill a certain number of enemies because we've seen that in nearly every MMO, plus that would just be a duplicate of what is already in game
I think there are alot of mini-game choices they could have done that would have kept in character. How about a game of virtual combat chess like the on we saw played on the Milenium Falcon in the origional movie. Or possible even just make it so the combatants competing were holographic projections of themselves. At least that would have removed the "bloodsport" aspect of it...that would at least make it a bit more palitable from a RP perspective for Jedi characters....without really changing much for anyone else.
Or how about we realize that this is a story, a narrative. It's not history, in which the story told is rigid because of actual, factual occurences. If the people who wrote this really wanted to, they could destroy the whole Degobah system and say it rebuilt itself through the cosmos before the movies. As long as it doesn't interfere with previously cemented timelines and story, they could do anything they want.......thus why this game isn't set during any of the movies, because that would limit what they could do as far as a running narative.
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actually its been clarifyed that jedi and sith can not be on the same team. they just meant it can be empire vs empire or republic vs republic in addition to standard republic vs empire
GeorgZoeller General Discussion -> empire and republic players teamed up together for huttball confirmed
I have to 'unconfirm' this confirmation, it is inaccurate, maybe a translation or transcription error as well.
While at some point we had faction mixed teams during testing, the design for the game currently does not involve players of different factions mixing in the same team.
It is however possible for two teams of the same faction to meet each other in The Pit.
MMOs are not just g a m e s...
MMOs are supposed to be at least as much virtual reality as game, some of both, that's part of what makes them different from console games or facebook games. MMOs are supposed to be more serious than "just a game".
so yea, some of us get a little bit wrapped up in our MMOs.
You want "just a game"? Consoles are that way, they have multiplayer too ----------------------->
Now as for the Huttball and whether it's good or bad.... let's wait and see how it pans out, might be OK. So many things have been added to canon it's getting hard to tell what is canon and what isn't anymore to be honest.
Well, I think mmo's can be anything the developers want them to be.
Like everything they don't have to just be one thing.
Some might be more like games and some might be more like worlds.
As far as Huttball, well "one's mileage may vary".
I recently spoke to someone who played it and thought it was fun. He would't go into any detail (nor did I press him) because he's under nda. but he did say he found it fun. That was pretty much it.
sooooo some players will hate it and some will like it. As it should be.
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Sorry, you don't get to decide what MMOs are or are not. I personally don't give a damn about the virtual reality at all. And appearantly, SWTOR is thinking most gamers don't either - and I'm glad.
Sorry, but you have even less to say about it than the old timers do.
It's funny how so many people wonder why they can't seem to find that game to hook them back in to the mmorpg genre. I'm sorry, but with your nit-picking you will never find a mmo to play. You're acting like a child.
Actually they are JUST games. I think that's the biggest problem with the genre, so many players can't realise that simple fact. they are meant to entertain, they aren't meant to provide you with your little fantasy reality world. There is nothing real about them. They're set in a fake, made up world, so how can you even bring "reality" into the conversation?
Just because something wasnt in the books doesnt mean it didnt happen. I think its a given that lots of stuff was going on that was not 'documented'. As long as huttball does not actually conflict with the story or the mmo world then its just fine. And I dont think it does. Any real person living in the star wars world would have recreational time and its not unlikely they would play games. Do you know any person in the real world that does not have out of work time to blow off steam? Even nazi germany took time to play at the olympics.
Your right I am acting like a child... throwing a tantrum... because on the internet there is not much else I can do.
Is there?
I will apologise. I do my best to respect everyone's opinions, but some of the readers here have opinions about MMOs that I find as "fighting words" so to speak.
I care about this genre (MMOs) and I am upset when people show up and try to tell me what I can and cannot say... yet they can say anything they want and it's OK just because they are young and are "following the trend".
Screw the trend. A few of us enjoy MMOs as they were and we still enjoy MMOs. I still play MMOs (3 of them actually).
That's why people like me get so upset when someone says they have a better difinition of what a MMO should be and about how a MMO is supposed to be designed... who says they get to rewrite the definition? I didn't write the definition for pete's sake (none of us did and that's why we argue about it now), but there was a kind of general consesus through the years and I am recalling what was told me in guild chat and in world chat by players of quite a few MMOs over the years. Trust me MMO players discussed what MMOs were and what they weren't a zillion times through the years.
Now just because some young people start playing and want to change MMOs it's OK?
Just because they don't like MMOs as they are they think its ok to call for MMOs to be redesigned to suit them?
No it isn't "OK". Not to me it isn't.
If someone changed Football every few months the fans would revolt (both Footballs).
When in a few years time MMOs are pressured to change again and change into something the players NOW would object to, then the young players calling for change now will then understand how I and others feel about all this.
it's not a game once when someone invests 100mill into it. it's more like...a simulacrum, or business, a means of controlling the masses, etc. in other words, with that kind of money, there's an agenda behind it. if that agenda is "creating a deeply immersive sci fi world" or something, then TOR fails.
I respectfully disagree with you. Your understanding of what a MMO is and is not... is far different than my own point of view.
We will never agree.
I apologise if I offended you in my disagreement to your point of view.
this post is pretty dumb, for the OP if you want jedi and sith have always partook in sport, whether that be Pod racing, or duels for money. The idea behind huttball is to show the true power that the hutts had beack in the old republic days. And for the people nit picking, if you think about it, the mmo you are bashing on so hard is only bad because you make it so, maybe try going into it with an open mind and who knows you just might like it.
I second this.
Completely agreed...
I can't beleive how many people are actually off put from the entire game for one warzone. It's petty.
Huttball is one of Jar Jar Binks' favorite pastimes! Yes, I'm deeply offended by it.
I am not offended at all. In fact I think some funny names can be achieved that are Epic!
I agree. Huttball is almost as absurd as the 2-headed Pod Racing announcer that was in Episode 1. The announcer was more annoying to me than Jar Jar was.
Dumbest thing added to an MMO I've seen in a while. Bioware seems desperate to add content.
Why they worked on this instead of non-on rails space travel is beyond me.
Virtual Reality or not there is not one thing that will effect your gameplay if you so choose to or not. Huttball is not mandatory.
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The name huttball makes me think of some kind of person who doesn't know much about "American Football" and instead calls it hutt ball.
Kinda like when I talk to my mom about games and every game is called "Nintendo".
I am on the fence whether I will try TOR or not, seems overhyped in myopinion but we will see!
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
+1
Part the disconnect I think is that it's very at odds with the character of how they are portraying the rest of the game....which seems to emphasize story and dramatic narritive and even moral choices.....and then there's "Oh by the way, we've got Huttball too.". It just doesn't seem to line up with the rest of the presentation of the game (IMO)....or at least what it seems to be trying to be.
If this were WOW for example....I could totaly see it. Because WOW doesn't present itself all that seriously in the first place. Half of WOW's content is tongue n' cheek anyway. It's constantly lampooning itself, so another lampoon doesn't feel out of place. That's not generaly the vibe I get from Bioware games....they tend to try to present themselves more seriously.
It's kinda like a slap-stick scene stuck in the middle of a tear-jerker. I mean, even if the scene in isolation is quite funny itself....alot of folks would be like "Ok what the heck was that doing in there?"
It's why I called it "bizarre"..... as it seems a very strange choice that doesn't seem to fit very well with the other things they seem to be aiming for with the game experience.
I mean, if they are going to allow "Huttball" why not allow pink armor....or a companion droid that has a T-shirt saying "I'm with stupid -> " ?
You people who get butthurt about not rigidly adhering to lore do know that you're taking on the role of a fictional character in a fictional world, right? Therefore, the canon is also fictional, and therefore fluid enough to change anyway the writer's imagination sees fit?
No? I think you should check into a "special" hospital soon to get your head checked.
I think there are alot of mini-game choices they could have done that would have kept in character. How about a game of virtual combat chess like the on we saw played on the Milenium Falcon in the origional movie. Or possible even just make it so the combatants competing were holographic projections of themselves. At least that would have removed the "bloodsport" aspect of it...that would at least make it a bit more palitable from a RP perspective for Jedi characters....without really changing much for anyone else.
Or how about we realize that this is a story, a narrative. It's not history, in which the story told is rigid because of actual, factual occurences. If the people who wrote this really wanted to, they could destroy the whole Degobah system and say it rebuilt itself through the cosmos before the movies. As long as it doesn't interfere with previously cemented timelines and story, they could do anything they want.......thus why this game isn't set during any of the movies, because that would limit what they could do as far as a running narative.