Any game paul barnett is promoting is a big NO for me, he basically said warhammer online is crap(which it is) but he said 3 years ago that warhammer online was awesome..what a complete douche, he is a suit without the suit.
Originally posted by RagnarokWar I beta'd this game. From what I've played... DO NOT think of this as a standard MOBA. There is no laning, no feeding, no leveling up your character, no item buying, none of that crap. This game is fast paced, in your face action, and reminded me much more of the Comquest mode from Battlefield: Bad Company 2. It's also very well balanced, the game tends to go to whoever plays as a team.This game also doesn't take an hour to play, you won't be poopsocking or getting screamed at for having to AFK in an emergency. Thank the Gods for this, as MOBA communities will SCREAM at you if you decide to AFK to take care of your 2 year old child instead of dorking it up in a lane.Honestly, I think you'll all be pleasantly surprised when it comes out. I know I was, especially after the crap I went through with the WAR beta. Honestly, they should just get rid of Scenarios or have RvR-only servers and instead run this along side it. I think that would make both camps fairly happy.
They haven't finished bringing stuff out to test. There is leveling, but nothing happens yet when you gain a level. They don't have all of the characters available for testing yet. There are going to be 16 total and there are like 6 you can play. I didn't see any sort of NDA and there aren't any forums to discuss the beta (except here). There is a lot of development left to do before this goes live.
However, if you let go of any preconceived notions about this game being some sort of WarHammer mmorpg lite, then it's a lot of fun to play. The characters are not glitchy and everything that's actually in the game works well. It is a fun, fully functional game as is.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Problem is I think most people are getting bored of arena type games. In wow, the majority of the people only play arena because of the gear and they hate doing it as well. The reason wow is popular is because of the pve and most people like pve, so no point in copying their failed pvp...
Saddly this puppy don't fly with me... A Shadow Warrior....? Topping the boards.... When i left the real game SW was only for those that liked to feel pain and be laughed at.
Why pull resources, time, money, and effort away from making a game that still has paying subscribers into something more enjoyable?
Yes... I get it. WAR is on it's last leg.
In my opinion, this doesn't do a damned thing to help the MMORPG. It will hurt it... and likely kill it. Unless this somehow feeds/ties to your WAR account, this is an incredibly bad move.
When this hits... I expect the MMORPG to be a ghost town in any areas other than maybe T1 and T4. ... to a greater degree than it already is.
Only one thing is dissapointing. that there are no factions, just groupds so high elves can group with greenskins for example..thats little bad imo.they should make 3 factions and give each faction same abilities with different names or something to make it balanced.
a gameplay vid also:
Yeah they kind of took a big steamy dump on the lore by doing that.
I wonder if there will be lava-golf in this (I really liked that scenario in WAR)
I got in the beta but havent downloaded this yet...
If you want a real MOBA play Heroes of Newerth at least it has some depth compared to LoL.
WoH is just another attempt by EA making money of ideas other studios have had, hope it fails.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
If you want a real MOBA play Heroes of Newerth at least it has some depth compared to LoL.
WoH is just another attempt by EA making money of ideas other studios have had, hope it fails.
Caution friend, your toying with powers beyond your control. LoL players and their "MOBA" at the very end of the day won't care.
I wish GW would follow some of the products that use their IP with some more fervor and lash at ythic for fucking up WAR really.
Also for the record I believe if anything should be called MOBA, this and bloodline champions might be it. DotA always called itself an Action RTS yet Riot decides one day to call LoL a MOBA and everyone follows suit... WTF? You an pick any word out of that acronym and it can seriously go without it. Multiplayer online Arena, Online arena, Online battle Arena etc.
I don't understand how they're metrics could possibly reveal that the scenario play, one of the features most despised by RvR fans and quite often complained about, was somehow the most popular form of PvP in there game.
Scenarios were constantly complained about, and the inclusion of them in the game is widely regarded as one of the largest flaws the game has. The 6v6v6 Mode is nothing like DAoC RvR, and nothing they do will ever change that.
Mythic had it right with DAoC, but it appears those days have passed.
Thats what happens when EA gets their dick on things.
if this game is successful, can we expect WAR going F2P as well? i hope so, i want to play WAR instead of this WoH but i wont pay for it.... rather pay for other ones
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So...anymore news about DOTA 2 yet?
Seriously, who cares about yet another rip off like this..
Any game paul barnett is promoting is a big NO for me, he basically said warhammer online is crap(which it is) but he said 3 years ago that warhammer online was awesome..what a complete douche, he is a suit without the suit.
They haven't finished bringing stuff out to test. There is leveling, but nothing happens yet when you gain a level. They don't have all of the characters available for testing yet. There are going to be 16 total and there are like 6 you can play. I didn't see any sort of NDA and there aren't any forums to discuss the beta (except here). There is a lot of development left to do before this goes live.
However, if you let go of any preconceived notions about this game being some sort of WarHammer mmorpg lite, then it's a lot of fun to play. The characters are not glitchy and everything that's actually in the game works well. It is a fun, fully functional game as is.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Problem is I think most people are getting bored of arena type games. In wow, the majority of the people only play arena because of the gear and they hate doing it as well. The reason wow is popular is because of the pve and most people like pve, so no point in copying their failed pvp...
WAR rest in peace ye mangey old dog...
Saddly this puppy don't fly with me... A Shadow Warrior....? Topping the boards.... When i left the real game SW was only for those that liked to feel pain and be laughed at.
This have been a good conversation
Why not focus on fixing the MMORPG?
Why pull resources, time, money, and effort away from making a game that still has paying subscribers into something more enjoyable?
Yes... I get it. WAR is on it's last leg.
In my opinion, this doesn't do a damned thing to help the MMORPG. It will hurt it... and likely kill it. Unless this somehow feeds/ties to your WAR account, this is an incredibly bad move.
When this hits... I expect the MMORPG to be a ghost town in any areas other than maybe T1 and T4. ... to a greater degree than it already is.
I was all hyped for this until I saw that they won't have an Archmage.
No Archmage?
No thanks.
If you want a real MOBA play Heroes of Newerth at least it has some depth compared to LoL.
WoH is just another attempt by EA making money of ideas other studios have had, hope it fails.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Caution friend, your toying with powers beyond your control. LoL players and their "MOBA" at the very end of the day won't care.
I wish GW would follow some of the products that use their IP with some more fervor and lash at ythic for fucking up WAR really.
Also for the record I believe if anything should be called MOBA, this and bloodline champions might be it. DotA always called itself an Action RTS yet Riot decides one day to call LoL a MOBA and everyone follows suit... WTF? You an pick any word out of that acronym and it can seriously go without it. Multiplayer online Arena, Online arena, Online battle Arena etc.
/endrant
Thats what happens when EA gets their dick on things.
if this game is successful, can we expect WAR going F2P as well? i hope so, i want to play WAR instead of this WoH but i wont pay for it.... rather pay for other ones