What is a WoWkiller? Age. As the game gets longer in tooth-or horn, depending on ur race- more will leave. WoW has not had a substantive change in the last 4 years except making all the stuff that us old-timers had to grind for cheap. It's a pleasant diversion if you're not looking for a challenge, but it does get old. Add to that the fact that so-called "wowkillers" of the past tend to be cheap clones of WoW, and even an upscale new Sci-fi one that even I had hoped would be different...Wasn't
The thing, IMO, that is bringing down the whole MMO genre is equality. I'm sorry, but the Evil Priestess or Sorcerer ALWAYS got cut down by Conan or Sonja. Period. No battlefield medics(except MFR navy medics) have any chance of surviving a one-on-one with a seasoned Spetznaz. Drop the whole nerfing tanks to make it easier on healers, and a whole bunch of people will cry, so it will never happen. But it should. People are beginning to look for a more realistic virtual experience.
No single game can be a WoW killer. Rift tried, pretty hard, but was just "meh" in the end. We should stop looking for both the wow and the "WoW Killer" factors, and find the games that fit us. Even some of the WoW clones are great in their own right, and once TOR gets the kinks worked out, it will probably be a great(er) game as well.
WoW= pvp has no purpose other than for you...Make it so pvp reflects on your realm in benefits.
WoW = cartoony...Make this one more adult/medieval themed in imagery and aesthetics.
WoW= a lot of sillyness...Make this one very serious.i.e., no MC Hammer Orcs or Michael Jackson dancing elves.
WoW= pretemd RP servers where at best a name violation makes the server rp...make real rp servers where community can get warnings for public chat that is out of character. Don't like it? Don't roll on it.
WoW= World of WARcraft yet the war was really a joke...Make this one have actual territorial/castle takes. Make a battle map that really shows that something is being lost or gained in the battle between realms/factions.
WoW= classes are mirrors on both sides...Make this one have unique classes. Watch Spike TV's Deadliest Warrior show (very popular) and get some ideas.
WoW adds expansion packs that make your hard work for gear pointless by increasing level cap...Keep level cap at about 50 and instead of adding zones until the lower zones become skeletal, focus on adding on to what you have and increase the immersive quality and sense of depth.
WoW= you cannot change the world in any way, neither can you give to it or take from it...Make this one capable of building structures, towns, cities, castles, etc. (**Very hard to leave a game that you have put tangible change in).
---------------------------------THERE YOU GO.
This all ready exsists and its dead too.. dark age of cameolot
What the hell is wrong with you posting that picture of "road kill" in a gaming thread? Is a flattened dead animal with its guts showing really needed to make a point?
Almost. But its more honest to say Ghostcrawler.... ^^ For quite some time now, the only threat to WoW has been Blizzard/Ghostcrawler. From what I've heard, they've already lost more than three million players. If that had happened to just about any other game, they would be DEAD. But "tis just a flesh wound" for WoW. ^^ It will be interesting to see how long this decline continues for. At some point, the investors/suits are going to panic, and then things could get rather unpleasant for our least favorite Dev... ^^
For a game to called wow killer by me.. it would have to gain a larger sub base then wow (which would most likely also mean they managed to take most of those subs from wow).
Last Nail in WoW's coffin will be hammered in by: GW2
negative. GW2 is free to play. you stay subscribed to WoW, and play GW2. Many people will do that on their free time (including me). The only thing i see GW2 can and would do against WoW is (if its very successful) to keep showing devs that subscriptions are not the best way to have a good game going on, not anymore.
These days people expect more and more from online games and there comes a time when they are fed up with "5 levels, new epics, and pandas" every ½ year.
Scientists discount the existence of WoW Killer and consider it to be a combination of folklore, misidentification, and hoax,[3] rather than a living entity, in part because of the large numbers thought necessary to maintain a breeding population.[4][5] A few scientists have expressed interest and belief in the creature, with the opinion that evidence collected of alleged WoW Killer encounters warrants further evaluation and testing.[7] The illusive WoW Killer remains one of the more famous examples of a cryptid within cryptozoology, and an enduring legend.
About a third of all reports of The WoW Killer sightings are concentrated in the Pacific Northwest, with most of the remaining reports spread throughout the rest of North America.[11][30][31] Some WoW Killer advocates have postulated that WoW Killer is a worldwide phenomenon.
I dont give a balls about wow because i dont like themepark games so I dont care if it dies or lives.. all i want is for companies to stop trying to copy it and do their own thing.. sicne wow nearly every AAA MMORPG that has been released has basically been a copy of WoW with a few slightly different things.
Companies need to start coming up wit new ideas, why would people leave wow a very stable game with tons of content to go to a new very similar game thats full of bugs and has no real content ?
To many companies try to copy so much of WOW. Once a company goes back to the old style mmos and all its features and does the opposite of WOW. Then there might be competition. I think so many games are released trying to mimic the WOW game. But they forget to understand WOW did something no other mmo's did before its time: they marketed the kids. Only way i see WOW being killed, is go back to the older genre, and for most it will be new and exciting.
A pointless term, used to rile up anger between WoW fans and those who dislike it. WoW's success was as much good timing as great game. Put those together and it is still here today.
There will never be another MMO as big as WoW, simply because MMo players are now like migratory birds flocking from one MMO to another. They will never stay with one MMO long enough to establish it as happened with WoW.
Not even BioWare could steer away from WoW cloning. We basically got BC-era WoW with a coat of Mass Effect on top. Now I won't lie, I like the game for what it is, but it blows as an MMORPG. It feels like a co-op RPG that runs like a dying turtle. Sigh.
I seriously can't wait for ArcheAge and Guild Wars 2. Now those two names are actually doing alot more to evolve the WoW forumla (or more accurately, the EQ formula.) There's still hope for us jaded MMOers yet.
WoW killer? Blizzard management. But perhaps not as one might be thinking.
I think the transition process to a WoW 2.0 is already started. Speed runs of randoms over and over is now the fastest progression in the game. Once at cap, it's heroics then raids.
Given that Blizzard could nerf dungeon runs as the primary leveling choice, and has not, I can only assume that this as the optimal form of leveling is intentional.
Grind for XP is gone. Questing for XP is nearly gone. WoW 2.0 is (or will be) a lobby based dungeon grinder.
disclaimed: gross generalizations are never absolutely true. Just my opinions based on what I've seen in game.
It's because people have tried questing and it's just not fun anymore. We've done our part of questing, whether it's leveling up another character or doing daily's. Questing is boring by itself and is even penalized if you do them in a group. Encouraging players to play together in an MMO isn't a bad idea. If only other game developers would understand that we play to have fun and not to be bored, they could create a lot of potential WoW killers.
The ones that are out now are just a big fat copy/paste joke
Yeah I have agree with that, I mean wow came out 7 years ago, and the best titles that have come since then are not even close to having the smooth gameplay wow does
With the current addiction I don't see there being a "WoW killer," some people just don't want to leave after all the time they put in. The things that make WoW good are it's story/well done scripts/ and smooth(easy) gameplay.
The games coming out will only chip away at the Wow community, maybe forever or just temporary.
Boredom is another thing to dwindle the population. They either grow tired of doing the same thing, the expansion wasn't to their liking, or they just realize there's more to life then on the computer and burn up in the sun.
Time is the biggest killer - More new games come out, maybe blizzard introduces another mmo that draws you away, technology finally overpowers your senses as you see that Wow is mediocre compared to the newer games you've been playing.
But for now WoW's staying, it's size will drop slowly but that will take awhile before it's finally submits.
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What takes out WOW will be a hunger strike by Chinese gold farmers and a panda.
What is a WoWkiller? Age. As the game gets longer in tooth-or horn, depending on ur race- more will leave. WoW has not had a substantive change in the last 4 years except making all the stuff that us old-timers had to grind for cheap. It's a pleasant diversion if you're not looking for a challenge, but it does get old. Add to that the fact that so-called "wowkillers" of the past tend to be cheap clones of WoW, and even an upscale new Sci-fi one that even I had hoped would be different...Wasn't
The thing, IMO, that is bringing down the whole MMO genre is equality. I'm sorry, but the Evil Priestess or Sorcerer ALWAYS got cut down by Conan or Sonja. Period. No battlefield medics(except MFR navy medics) have any chance of surviving a one-on-one with a seasoned Spetznaz. Drop the whole nerfing tanks to make it easier on healers, and a whole bunch of people will cry, so it will never happen. But it should. People are beginning to look for a more realistic virtual experience.
No single game can be a WoW killer. Rift tried, pretty hard, but was just "meh" in the end. We should stop looking for both the wow and the "WoW Killer" factors, and find the games that fit us. Even some of the WoW clones are great in their own right, and once TOR gets the kinks worked out, it will probably be a great(er) game as well.
Anything new here? Hmmm... Nope. o/
This all ready exsists and its dead too.. dark age of cameolot
What the hell is wrong with you posting that picture of "road kill" in a gaming thread? Is a flattened dead animal with its guts showing really needed to make a point?
One thing that makes WOW so strong is that WOW will run on anything and anyone can play it.
My friend has been playing WOW for years, it run great on his old XP computer but he can't run Age of Conan we just tried.
He will have to buy a new computer the move on.
But to the main point, no one is going to get the kind of enthusiasim that WOW did until they come out with something new.
Every game I've tried for years is just WOW with better graphics.
I really wan't something new, I have my own ideas but no one would listen.
But it is posible to make a fasinating game that isn't just about leveling, and getting better gear.
The interesting part can be the game itself.
You need mystery, surprises, exploring and a long term goal to keep you going, not more elves.
If you shoot a mime, do you have to use a silencer?
Guildwars 2?
Almost. But its more honest to say Ghostcrawler.... ^^ For quite some time now, the only threat to WoW has been Blizzard/Ghostcrawler. From what I've heard, they've already lost more than three million players. If that had happened to just about any other game, they would be DEAD. But "tis just a flesh wound" for WoW. ^^ It will be interesting to see how long this decline continues for. At some point, the investors/suits are going to panic, and then things could get rather unpleasant for our least favorite Dev... ^^
For a game to called wow killer by me.. it would have to gain a larger sub base then wow (which would most likely also mean they managed to take most of those subs from wow).
negative. GW2 is free to play. you stay subscribed to WoW, and play GW2. Many people will do that on their free time (including me). The only thing i see GW2 can and would do against WoW is (if its very successful) to keep showing devs that subscriptions are not the best way to have a good game going on, not anymore.
Gamers will kill wow..
These days people expect more and more from online games and there comes a time when they are fed up with "5 levels, new epics, and pandas" every ½ year.
WoW Killer, is an ape-like cryptid that purportedly inhabits forests, mainly in the Pacific Northwest region of North America. WoW Killer is usually described as a large, hairy, bipedal humanoid.
Scientists discount the existence of WoW Killer and consider it to be a combination of folklore, misidentification, and hoax,[3] rather than a living entity, in part because of the large numbers thought necessary to maintain a breeding population.[4][5] A few scientists have expressed interest and belief in the creature, with the opinion that evidence collected of alleged WoW Killer encounters warrants further evaluation and testing.[7] The illusive WoW Killer remains one of the more famous examples of a cryptid within cryptozoology, and an enduring legend.
About a third of all reports of The WoW Killer sightings are concentrated in the Pacific Northwest, with most of the remaining reports spread throughout the rest of North America.[11][30][31] Some WoW Killer advocates have postulated that WoW Killer is a worldwide phenomenon.
I dont give a balls about wow because i dont like themepark games so I dont care if it dies or lives.. all i want is for companies to stop trying to copy it and do their own thing.. sicne wow nearly every AAA MMORPG that has been released has basically been a copy of WoW with a few slightly different things.
Companies need to start coming up wit new ideas, why would people leave wow a very stable game with tons of content to go to a new very similar game thats full of bugs and has no real content ?
By a WOW killer I imagine a game the will replace WOW in GB2WOW :-))
A WoW killer is when someone says, "WOW," and a person goes around killing them. Get it? WOW killer :-p
See you in 2015´s "Why is wow still alive" thread.
Rawr.
I beg you all to answer this question: What computer operating system will kill windows? answer that and we shall have the answer for wow killer...
blizzards next mmo will kill wow
and thats probably the reason they havent released a new one
i recon they would have a 90% of all the players who ever played wow now thats one hell of a lot of buyers
just ask yourself if a new mmo came out made by blizzard which recived 90%+ reviews would you not buy it
ive not played wow since burning crusade but i would buy a new one
all the people i used to play none of them still play now but i cant think of one who wouldnt buy a new blizzard mmo
tbh blizzard is sitting on a cash cow of a new mmo
To many companies try to copy so much of WOW. Once a company goes back to the old style mmos and all its features and does the opposite of WOW. Then there might be competition. I think so many games are released trying to mimic the WOW game. But they forget to understand WOW did something no other mmo's did before its time: they marketed the kids. Only way i see WOW being killed, is go back to the older genre, and for most it will be new and exciting.
Maybe
A pointless term, used to rile up anger between WoW fans and those who dislike it. WoW's success was as much good timing as great game. Put those together and it is still here today.
There will never be another MMO as big as WoW, simply because MMo players are now like migratory birds flocking from one MMO to another. They will never stay with one MMO long enough to establish it as happened with WoW.
I don't know what a WoW Killer is but I know what it isn't, and it's called Star Wars: The Old Republic.
Not even BioWare could steer away from WoW cloning. We basically got BC-era WoW with a coat of Mass Effect on top. Now I won't lie, I like the game for what it is, but it blows as an MMORPG. It feels like a co-op RPG that runs like a dying turtle. Sigh.
I seriously can't wait for ArcheAge and Guild Wars 2. Now those two names are actually doing alot more to evolve the WoW forumla (or more accurately, the EQ formula.) There's still hope for us jaded MMOers yet.
Kick her out of bed.
It's because people have tried questing and it's just not fun anymore. We've done our part of questing, whether it's leveling up another character or doing daily's. Questing is boring by itself and is even penalized if you do them in a group. Encouraging players to play together in an MMO isn't a bad idea. If only other game developers would understand that we play to have fun and not to be bored, they could create a lot of potential WoW killers.
The ones that are out now are just a big fat copy/paste joke
With the current addiction I don't see there being a "WoW killer," some people just don't want to leave after all the time they put in. The things that make WoW good are it's story/well done scripts/ and smooth(easy) gameplay.
The games coming out will only chip away at the Wow community, maybe forever or just temporary.
Boredom is another thing to dwindle the population. They either grow tired of doing the same thing, the expansion wasn't to their liking, or they just realize there's more to life then on the computer and burn up in the sun.
Time is the biggest killer - More new games come out, maybe blizzard introduces another mmo that draws you away, technology finally overpowers your senses as you see that Wow is mediocre compared to the newer games you've been playing.
But for now WoW's staying, it's size will drop slowly but that will take awhile before it's finally submits.