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PukeBucket
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Full disclosure here; I now have a tablet.
I've seen a review of an online MMO here on the site, and saw that it was basically a pick up and play WoW-inspired game.
That's not the type of game I'm looking for so I'm curious if anyone is playing any other MMO on a more mobile platform?
I tried the Phantasy Star Online game demo on the PSP and it was interesting.
And really Mario Kart on the 3DS and it's online play has been inspiring if only there was a more persistent presence.
Also for general discussion are you open / intrigued by this type of gaming as well? Now that I have a new degree (starting a collection apparently) I could see investing in an interesting project that could bring MMORPGs to the mobile arena.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
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I totally would mobile MMO on a game system.
But, as for smartphones and tablets, my 3D graphical expectations of games exceeds what they are capable of as far as battery life is concerned.... of course you could always default to a mobile version of an in browser game.
Yeah I'm actually playing Skyrim right now...
I voted 'No', based on my recent experience of trying to game on my phone. It doesn't seem accessible, right now. However, who knows what the future will bring? If my phone was bigger and had better or more accessible gaming controls I would be much more inclined to game in general on my phone, so I'd be more inclined to play an mmorpg on my phone.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
If you want to play MMORPGs on a tablet, then nothing is stopping you. Start with a fairly powerful tablet like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152278
Then pick a game on this site with fairly low system requirements. I'm pretty sure that Guild Wars would run well, for example. Install it and play it. Viola, MMORPG gaming on a tablet.
Come Windows 8 and AMD's next tablet APU, you'll have a lot more games available, simply because a lot more of the games that are already out will run well.
I'm kind of surprised MUDS or at least dungeon-lite games that don't need super graphics processing, but offers a lot of depth haven't picked up on tablets and smart phones as a way to pass time. But I also under-estimate how "shiny" is often touted as quality now a days as well.
But with the Vita and 3DS' actual power (own a 3DS, and played on a Vita at a local Sony Store in Portland) I'd love to see a game company give us something persistent to explore. Even if it was just a dungeon crawling game.
Someone just told me about the Monster Hunter series. Probably should check that out.
It just seems like these platforms have a lot of cool tools to take advantage of. Like the Vita and 3DS and their local swap ability. It'd be fun to item trade while on the go with a feature like that.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Well tablet computing is nice, and Windows 8 would be easier to deal with than some of the Android oddities I've ran across with a somewhat powerful tablet. The Transformer Prime. I know the power is there to compute older MMOs, but that's treating the tablet just as a PC and not a mobile device.
It seems to me that MMORPGs could benefit from the social aspect of mobile gaming.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Bobcat cores are massively more powerful than Cortex A9 cores. Even in programs that scale flawlessly to four cores, the dual core tablet I linked would probably tend to greatly outperform the quad core Asus Transformer Prime that you mention. And in programs that don't scale flawlessly to four cores (such as nearly all games), it would be even more of a slaughter. And that's even ignoring the compatibility issues where most existing MMORPGs are built for x86 like the tablet I linked, and not ARM.
I'd also be very surprised if Desna isn't a lot faster than Tegra 3 on the GPU side. Nvidia is certainly competent at GPU design, but there's simply a lot more that you can do with a higher TDP. Desna is basically a chip that was meant for low-power laptops, and AMD decided to bin out the ones that can run at the lowest voltage and make a 5.9 W tablet chip out of it. Tegra 3 was meant for cell phones, and will give you cell phone-like performance even if you put it in a larger form factor. For cell phones, Tegra 3 will work and Desna won't (too much heat, and it's not a SoC), but Desna gives you vastly more performance in the tablet form factor.
Now, when ARM comes out with the Cortex A15, they'll probably close the gap some in processor performance. I doubt that they're going to catch AMD's next generation Bobcat cores, but Cortex A15 cores may well be powerful enough to run games of the complexity that we're used to on PCs, or at least the ones lower on system requirement. That won't resolve the incompatility between x86 and ARM, but it would at least give you ARM hardware that is somewhat viable for gaming.
Well tablet computing is nice, and Windows 8 would be easier to deal with than some of the Android oddities I've ran across with a somewhat powerful tablet. The Transformer Prime. I know the power is there to compute older MMOs, but that's treating the tablet just as a PC and not a mobile device.
It seems to me that MMORPGs could benefit from the social aspect of mobile gaming.
Bobcat cores are massively more powerful than Cortex A9 cores. Even in programs that scale flawlessly to four cores, the dual core tablet I linked would probably tend to greatly outperform the quad core Asus Transformer Prime that you mention. And in programs that don't scale flawlessly to four cores (such as nearly all games), it would be even more of a slaughter. And that's even ignoring the compatibility issues where most existing MMORPGs are built for x86 like the tablet I linked, and not ARM.
I'd also be very surprised if Desna isn't a lot faster than Tegra 3 on the GPU side. Nvidia is certainly competent at GPU design, but there's simply a lot more that you can do with a higher TDP. Desna is basically a chip that was meant for low-power laptops, and AMD decided to bin out the ones that can run at the lowest voltage and make a 5.9 W tablet chip out of it. Tegra 3 was meant for cell phones, and will give you cell phone-like performance even if you put it in a larger form factor. For cell phones, Tegra 3 will work and Desna won't (too much heat, and it's not a SoC), but Desna gives you vastly more performance in the tablet form factor.
Now, when ARM comes out with the Cortex A15, they'll probably close the gap some in processor performance. I doubt that they're going to catch AMD's next generation Bobcat cores, but Cortex A15 cores may well be powerful enough to run games of the complexity that we're used to on PCs, or at least the ones lower on system requirement. That won't resolve the incompatility between x86 and ARM, but it would at least give you ARM hardware that is somewhat viable for gaming.
Eh, bleh bleh bleh. The Prime does a great job graphics wise on a lot of games. More reflections, shadows, and texture than I expected from any tablet. Shadowgun looks great on it for example.
That's not on topic tho'.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
There is already a WOW clone on the iOS called Order and Chaos Online by gameloft.
If you don't want to talk about hardware, then why did you claim that the much weaker Asus Transfomer Prime is actually faster than the MSI WindPad?
I thought a lot of games had graphics that looked nice on my old SNES. That doesn't mean that there was no reason to get more powerful hardware. Let's not forget the various reasons why MMORPGs need more powerful hardware to deliver a given level of graphical quality, either.
Tablets becoming powerful enough to run PC games means that you'll have a lot of games available for tablets with a lot of people already playing them. Taking a PC game and making a few UI tweaks to optimize it for a tablet version would be a lot easier to do than designing a new game from scratch with tablets in mind, and then ending up with a game that most gaming enthusiasts can't play even if they wanted to. Tablets being split between iOS, Android, and soon the ARM version of Windows 8 means all sorts of incompatibility problems, so that even if you make a tablet MMORPG, many (likely most) of the few gamers who want to play an MMORPG on a tablet won't be able to. With Windows for x86, you'd still be able to play the game on a laptop or desktop.
Not interested in mobile games. Never got into them.
Especially could not imagine mmo and even more an mmorpg.
For mmorpg I need peace, quitet and comfy chair
So nah I would not.
I've played Pocket Legends and Star Legends on android. You can also play them on a PC with chrome. They aren't really traditional MMO's. They have forced grouping in levels that you progress through each... chapter I guess? Also they are somewhat more action oriented. My gf likes them pretty well. I don't particularly like the controls on the android but only so much you can do with that, and they did a decent job.
Yeah that's the game I think was reviewed here.
Didn't sound like my cup of tea, but it did present the notion.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
I barely keep my phone from dying from just normal use and reading the news between classes. I'd rather just use a laptop for MMO on the go.
I did play the game a little. It wasn't bad but if i want to have a wow like experience, i play WOW.
24 votes isn't so bad.
Yes (phone) and No (accessibility) tied doesn't surprise me, and I'd think that'd be about the same even with 2400 votes.
There's soon gonna be two kinds of people. LoL
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
There may be two kinds of people, but both kinds will have smart phones. It's just that one set will have a wireless 27" screen, keyboard and mouse that talks to the phone over the next version of Blue Tooth and the other will just use the phone directly. :-)
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I would play a mmo on a games system. Tired of failed pc mmos!
Grim Dawn, the next great action rpg!
http://www.grimdawn.com/
There may be two kinds of people, but both kinds will have smart phones. It's just that one set will have a wireless 27" screen, keyboard and mouse that talks to the phone over the next version of Blue Tooth and the other will just use the phone directly. :-)
There's that.
I hate the people who tether their internet connection, but that's another topic.
Well how about those people who will have the experience gaming on their TV, then on their gaming rig, and then on the go with a mobile device? That's apparently the future.
I'd like to see games take advantage of this in more exploratory ways than just having an internet connection radiating across the sky.
I used to play MMOs like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.