It would be nice if we could have a thread without arguments about whether XFire can be used or not. Such discussion has its place, but people who simple want to follow XFire trends should be allowed to do that without getting drowned into arguments if they indicate something greater or not.
While xfire isn't required to play SWTOR, therefore not a 100% accurate scale to judge activity, you'd have to be in denial to not even consider such a large sample of 7 years of playtime dropping to just over 4 in a little over a moth with no signs of inclining. The WoW comparison also clearly shows what many people already knew but just bad for SWTOR has WoW numbers dipp on SWTOR only to to easily bounce back as SWTOR declines.
Don't worry though they have 1.7million subs.... might be 10 people on your planet but their are 1.7million players, somewhere. Game will survive... somehow golden turds always do. (FFXIV but it was so bad had to be free for a year)
I know roughly a dozen people playing this game currently, including myself. Not one of us have Xfire. So out of 12 people in my group of friends 0 have Xfire. Does even that sample tell you, that Xfire is hardly accurate for trending or population stats? Will that stop tards from posting it in an attempt to deter people from a game they don't like, doubtful.
I know roughly a dozen people playing this game currently, including myself. Not one of us have Xfire. So out of 12 people in my group of friends 0 have Xfire. Does even that sample tell you, that Xfire is hardly accurate for trending or population stats? Will that stop tards from posting it in an attempt to deter people from a game they don't like, doubtful.
So I guess not many people use Xfire for SWTOR then, but EVERYONE uses it for WOW? Also only those who use Xfire stop playing SWTOR, but those who do not use Xfire keep playing?
Not really, some people who play WOW do not use it either, and those who do not use XFire stop playing SWTOR too.
It is only inacurate if the same people just suddnely stop using using Xfire, or those who do not use it, start using it as then it would seem more people playing when there are not
It all balances out in the end, and provides a good guide. Obviously not 100% accurate, but accurate enough
Even with the stats provided it shows that more people play at weekend than during the week, which is understandable, If it showed more people playing in the week than the weekend, then something would not be right with Xfire stats. So yeah, they are good enough.
I know roughly a dozen people playing this game currently, including myself. Not one of us have Xfire. So out of 12 people in my group of friends 0 have Xfire. Does even that sample tell you, that Xfire is hardly accurate for trending or population stats? Will that stop tards from posting it in an attempt to deter people from a game they don't like, doubtful.
and how many people in your group of friends speak Chinese? So does that mean 1/6 the of the worlds people don't exist too?
19 of my group of 45 players played swtor, only 3 still play, one hasn't logged in since last week. That doesn't mean I beleive 85% stopped playing the game.
I know roughly a dozen people playing this game currently, including myself. Not one of us have Xfire. So out of 12 people in my group of friends 0 have Xfire. Does even that sample tell you, that Xfire is hardly accurate for trending or population stats? Will that stop tards from posting it in an attempt to deter people from a game they don't like, doubtful.
I know 12 people that quit this game (more actually but for comparison reasons...), including myself. All of us use xfire. So out off all 12 people 12 had xfire.... therefore?
"I don't use it therefore it is completely invalid to be used as data in any way, shape, or form." - Is this what you're saying?
If you're looking at an avg playtime of about 4 hours, then that is about 25k+ players. How is it invalid to take a survey of 25k people? Are xfire users more likely to quit SWTOR for some unknown reason compared to someone that doesn't use xfire?
Xfire numbers back up what players see ingame, a steady decline in players not only after the holidays but throughout jan bounce back on Ilum to have another bigger drop after. The game won't die I'm sure, it's Star Wars. The game is not the next great thing. I'd not even put SWTOR over Rift it terms of quality MMO.
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u have to realize most of swtor players from refugies from the other dead mmo so u have to expect them to leave for another mmo once they are out.
While xfire isn't required to play SWTOR, therefore not a 100% accurate scale to judge activity, you'd have to be in denial to not even consider such a large sample of 7 years of playtime dropping to just over 4 in a little over a moth with no signs of inclining. The WoW comparison also clearly shows what many people already knew but just bad for SWTOR has WoW numbers dipp on SWTOR only to to easily bounce back as SWTOR declines.
Don't worry though they have 1.7million subs.... might be 10 people on your planet but their are 1.7million players, somewhere. Game will survive... somehow golden turds always do. (FFXIV but it was so bad had to be free for a year)
Actually the stats in the OP are a day out, the figure for Saturday is 6908, and 7001 is for Monday, so only 1000 loss from last week now!
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I know roughly a dozen people playing this game currently, including myself. Not one of us have Xfire. So out of 12 people in my group of friends 0 have Xfire. Does even that sample tell you, that Xfire is hardly accurate for trending or population stats? Will that stop tards from posting it in an attempt to deter people from a game they don't like, doubtful.
So I guess not many people use Xfire for SWTOR then, but EVERYONE uses it for WOW? Also only those who use Xfire stop playing SWTOR, but those who do not use Xfire keep playing?
Not really, some people who play WOW do not use it either, and those who do not use XFire stop playing SWTOR too.
It is only inacurate if the same people just suddnely stop using using Xfire, or those who do not use it, start using it as then it would seem more people playing when there are not
It all balances out in the end, and provides a good guide. Obviously not 100% accurate, but accurate enough
Even with the stats provided it shows that more people play at weekend than during the week, which is understandable, If it showed more people playing in the week than the weekend, then something would not be right with Xfire stats. So yeah, they are good enough.
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and how many people in your group of friends speak Chinese? So does that mean 1/6 the of the worlds people don't exist too?
19 of my group of 45 players played swtor, only 3 still play, one hasn't logged in since last week. That doesn't mean I beleive 85% stopped playing the game.
I know 12 people that quit this game (more actually but for comparison reasons...), including myself. All of us use xfire. So out off all 12 people 12 had xfire.... therefore?
"I don't use it therefore it is completely invalid to be used as data in any way, shape, or form." - Is this what you're saying?
If you're looking at an avg playtime of about 4 hours, then that is about 25k+ players. How is it invalid to take a survey of 25k people? Are xfire users more likely to quit SWTOR for some unknown reason compared to someone that doesn't use xfire?
Xfire numbers back up what players see ingame, a steady decline in players not only after the holidays but throughout jan bounce back on Ilum to have another bigger drop after. The game won't die I'm sure, it's Star Wars. The game is not the next great thing. I'd not even put SWTOR over Rift it terms of quality MMO.
There is already an existing thread on xFire, see below. Locking this.
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/336517/Seems-like-the-game-has-peaked-on-XFire.html