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[Poll]How many of your SWTOR gaming plans hinge entirely on patch 1.2?
DollMighty8313
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I am writing an article about patch 1.2 in SWTOR and I need some information from you guys. (I won’t even link the blog so as not to be accused of blog spam.) What I need to know is how many of you are still playing SWTOR only because you are waiting for patch 1.2 to come out--or have quit until 1.2 and if it’s not great plan on leaving again? If you absolutely love SWTOR that is fantastic, but I'm not looking for your demographic for this. Thank you for reading though.
I really only need to know if you are playing or plan on playing based entirely on patch 1.2 so if we can keep it to that it would help me greatly
Thanks all!
Dollada06
The article that was written based off of this content is located here if you are interested in seeing it.
** I've added "This game is awesome and I'm not leaving anytime soon" just to see if people read the post. Clearly thats not the information i'm looking for.
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I cancelled account at end of Jan, and then resubbed just before March 19th with a 60 day timecard (which I purchased 2 of them with the game in Dec) to secure the Founders Title and to try out 1.2. If there was no 1.2 I would not have subbed just for the title, but without the title I probably would have subbed once 1.2 went live, although now it gives time to get characters sorted for Legacy.
I will not resub after the 60 days is up though, as 1.2 is still not good enough to keep subbing to SWTOR. The next time I resub will probably be in Dec, assuming that they will add some anniversary/christmas event, and if they do something for Halloween I may sub for that, but there should be some anniversary event / offers to take advantage of.
I am holding out for the major space update/expansion. If it does not make the game more like SWG, EVE, or STO, then there will be no hope for this game, and I will probably give up on it for good then.
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Leaving out a large chunk of the TOR game players (the "it's awesome and I'm not leaving anytime soon" crowd) smacks of bias, especially if you're going to use this data to write an article. It will be inaccurate because you're only polling one side of the coin ( the "I have or am going to quit" crowd) and you're results will be meaningless. Of course it occurs to me that you want to leave out the first group to make it seem like more people are thinking of leaving and if that's the case, shame on you.
Playing the game since launch, but I gotta admit the game is lacking. Don't get me wrong it's got all the basic stuff there, though there simply isn't enough to do in the game to keep the player happy after 50.
Was asking myself why that's the case and how a ptach could change that.
I guess the game's main problem at 50 is accessability for the casual stuff. After 50 you have to spam the LFG channels for ages to get a group for a flash point. So gearing up for those without a guild seems rather hard. For those within a guild, even if it's only a casual pve guild, it is far too easy, as you get most of your gear after two or three HM raids.
I can relate to that problem as I play the game with my brother. He's working all afternoon up to about ten in the evening So mostly there is no way to keep up even with the most casual raiding schedule. He says after having been to work for 8 hours, he doesn't want to have to spam for a group for 30-60 mins just to do a simple FP that doesn't take longer than 30-60 mins time to complete. There isn't even REALLY an open world to explore..there simply is no real content for people like him. Apart from doing fps, raids and repetitive pvp there isn't even enough content to keep people with a guild busy.
I understand players like that completely.
Imho BW needs to react and adress those problems. I know most people don't want to cater to the "started MMOs with WoW and I need an easily accessible game" crowd, but this group comprises a large part of the paying player base and without those there won't be regular future updates.
So will 1.2 do anything for those casuals? I don't think so and if BW loses them, 1.3 will take them even longer.
I already quit but I actually think 1.2 does appear to be a rather decent update. Frankly, there is nothing that could bring me back due to me not finding the core gameplay aspects having any long lasting appeal for me. I got my entertainment value out of it.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Currently subbed and I might stay if it adds enough to keep me interested, at present i'm quickly getting bored and just passing time until something decent comes along. Right now it beats not playing anything at all for extended periods or replaying games i've played to death already as has happened over the past few years, but my interest is evaporating.
Haven't unsubbed yet and my sub runs out mid-April, if 1.2 isn't out before my sub runs out I will resub but only for 1 month and not the 3 month sub I originally went for. Good thing for Bioware that I did go for the 3 month sub or I doubt I would have resubbed between then and 1.2. Being the leader of my guild's Republic chapter I begrudgingly feel obligated to stay active in the game for the guild's sake, but I see guildmates quit playing on a weekly basis almost. Depressing but I can't fault them.
1.2 will make or break SWTOR for me and honestly I am not impressed by much of 1.2. New FP...sounds good but will it be scarier and less cheesy/L4D derivative than Khaon Under Siege (which was almost laughable at points)? New Op? sounds good but will there be enough left in my guild to do Ops? We barely can get enough to show up steadily for our scheduled Ops runs as it is. Will the Ops be plagued by bosses with stupidly quick enrage timers? UI customization, guild banks, sounds good, but that stuff is not very meaty in terms of game content, just filling in stuff that should already be in the game. Stupid change to medpacs. Most of the Legacy system looks like worthless fluff to me; there's a few things in the Legacy system I will invest in but mostly it all looks meaningless. Too many sweeping class nerfs-err I mean changes, although my main class Guardian doesn't look to be getting hit that hard. HORRIBLE looking new armor sets. So many changes to PvP I am glad I have not done much with PvP yet. They are just bailing on Ilum PvP rather than trying to do anything with it, lame. New Warzone? Great, too bad PvP is just another meaningless distraction in the form of mini games. Ranked and unranked wz's? Great...too bad it is emphasizes the fact that PvP in SWTOR is just esports and doesn't really illustrate the galactic conflict very well nor does it affect anything in the overall context of the game's major storyline.
Not too sure that 1.2 is gonna do it for me, wondering what is is going to do for my guild on the whole...
My willingness to participate in this game is lessening every day. I've leveled one toon to 50, but going through it again is depressing. I don't want to participate in the PVP/PVE gear grind, and PVPing and running class quests to level is painful.
I'm looking forward to 1.2 for several reasons; notably the Legacy system, moving Sprint to level 1, and cheaper vehicle certs. The problem is I don't know if that's enough to keep what little attention I have left for TOR.
So we'll see how it goes...
I play swtor about 10 hours a week, so I am not a hard core player, I have a main character at lvl 30 and several alts and i really like the game, 1.2 is not going to change my mind one way or the other. I do hope that Bioware is working on an expansion that would make the space game a intergal part of the game and not just a mini game, I think you may see that this Christmas
1.2 is the patch where they officially admit they can't manage pvp , open world nor anything greater than 8 vs 8 , and are basically abandoning it.
Those 100vs100 battles the dev's lied about in selling the game aren't going to happen in patch 1.2 nor 2.1 etc , so no point in it for me since that was what I was really looking forward to in end game.
Maybe you read my entire post, had you done that you would know that what I am looking for is exactly what I am asking about. People who are letting patch 1.2 be the basis of future gameplay.
Thanks for reading.
1.2 won't bring me back. That doesn't mean I won't ever play again. STO was a failure and after SWTOR I played another month (on sub) just for the space combat and to mourn what should have been, but wasn't. Had a great time. Moved on. I also played a month of DCUO just to feel like I was in a 'real city,' to mourn what should have been, but wasn't thank's to BioWare's lazy "Halls and Rooms" version of a 'city.'
Eventually they'll have to do something about the poor design decisions, merge a ton of servers, and then I might come back.
If ony for a while.
I know its not popular thing to say around here but I'm enjoying SW:TOR and plan on staying until I stop enjoying it. The Legacy system is something I'm looking forward to see and evolve, so I'm actually excited for 1.2 and its also adressing my main a Sith Sorc and giving the class a well deserved smack with the nerf bat. Going into TOR I did not expect to enjoy the games but luckily I got into an beta weekend and was sold.
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I get wanting something similiar to SWG and EVE, but STO? That game is the complete antihesis of the first two. And not to be mean, but if you're holding out hope for TOR to be anything like SWG I'd advise to get out now. It's not going to happen. Just being honest so that you're not suprised when it never happens.
OP: When it comes to whether or not to stay in a game, I NEVER use a promised patch as a factor. The basic core design of the game is already established and that isn't going to change (unless you're an SOE, but I doubt anyone will be that stupid again.) So if I'm not happy or bored with a game, I unsub then and there. I might come back in the future just to try out the new content, but I always end up leaving again.
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I was meaning the space game. The space game in SWTOR is a single player mini game, you can not do space with other players. This is a MMO! STO >> SWTOR where space is concerned.
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Can't argue with you there. The space game in STO was my favorite part of the game. Very similiar to Starfleet Command. The rest of game sucked IMO. I do find it interesting that you mention the "play with others in space" part because I remember posters on this very forum that said STO wasn't a real mmo because you couldn't all play together on the same ship.
I don't even play the space part of TOR, then again I never played it much in SWG either so really this part is a non factor for me.I will say that's something which Bioware should have waited on and done right with an expansion. They should have ignored the whiners who said that you can't release a Star Wars game without space because this was obviously something that was tacked on just to say "Hey, there's space fighting."
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I voted for the last choice, but I don't think the OP included enough options. TOR is a good, fun, entertaining game, but it's still got too many holes to consider "awesome." I plan on staying with it because I'm stil enjoying it, and I've been pleased with the two major content updates so far. As long as I continue to get the feeling that Bioware is working hard to continually improve the game, I'll continue to stay interested in the near future. However, there will come a point that I'll lose interest if Bioware doesn't make some SPECIFIC changes that I feel are important for retention in the long run. I'm not at that point yet, and probably won't be for several months.
Even though I wouldn't characterize the game as "awesome" at this point, I still voted for the last choice because I wouldn't be compelled to leave yet regardless of how 1.2 looked, because I don't believe this game needs anything even resembling a "miracle patch" that many of the haters believe it does. I just need Bioware to continue working hard to improve a solid foundation of a game, and I'll be happy.
1.2 was looking quite good until I saw the raft of class-changes.
Retooling the game at this stage to such a large degree is a big gamble, the condescending tone Georg Zoeller takes with critics of the changes stinks to high heaven and the communication of the reasoning behind it, rather than up front prior to the changes being announced has been way too after the fact and piecemeal, like trying to drag information out of a suspected criminal it has taken constant & pressured interrogation to get any meaningful information - it just should not be like that.
I cancelled my subscription in protest at the way BioWare is handling the game & it's downward looking way of communication with the playerbase, it's sloppy mis-management of the game & it's systems & it's very bad planning for basic things that take place in the MMO space (no transfer system in place from the get go, no server-merge system in place, the very low population cap of the servers exacerbating the "critical mass" problems).
They have made so many basic errors of judgement & planning, such a poor understanding of the MMO demographic that it beggars belief.
I like the game, I really enjoy it despite its shortcomings, but I will not pay for continued incompetence, poor planning, mismanagement & condescensiion of the playerbase by self-important developers.
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Actually I get exactly the right number of answers. I was asking if you were hinging on 1.2 whether you would CONTINUE to play or are coming back. Giving options why you like it or how you like it woudl have been pointless.
In STO you mainly fight side by side in seperate ships, against the enemy, and when you get into battles like this, in can be quite epic, when there are loads of players taking part.
The other day a friend invited me to his different ships in STO, explore them, and were huge, and was able to get missions for my Duty Officers, by speaking to certain NPCs in the crew on my friends ship, which I think was only just added in within the last month, but was able to visit friends ships before. The game has been enhanced since, so hopefully the same will happen with SWTOR, and if it does not, then the game / Bioware is pathetic. At least STO is evolving, and they are putting effort into it.
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That's what you get when you have metrics and suits driving the game design....
I already uninstalled the game.
I cancelled just before the first month subscription was going to kick in. I loved leveling but not enough to pay for something I can get from a single player game.
1.2 isn't nearly enough to get me back. I'll be playing D2 for a while. Once that becomes tiresome I'll probablygive GW@ a look and see where SWTOR is in terms of space combat.
my whole family just unsubbed.
Nice single player story game..not much else