I don't really understand those who say they have been bitten by recent MMOG "failures" and so they aren't going to get into GW2, but will rather wait until later when they see if it pans out.
What does that even mean? I passed on Rift, Aion, SWTOR, DDO, LOTRO, and countless free MMOGs because I read about them and they didn't offer me anything other than the same thing I had when I left WoW. It's not like any of those games "failed" - there's plenty of people playing them and enjoying them. In what sense did they "fail" to meet the reasonable expectations of anyone who played them?
It's not like they promised anything drastically new or different, or that they made claims they utterly failed at concerning in-game content and mechanics. Everyone who bought into those games knew what they were getting - basically a WoW clone with some specific variations and different graphics. I'm not putting them down - WoW is a great, successful game to mimic. But, if they bought into one of those games thinking it was going to be fundamentally different fro WoW, they obviously didn't do your due diligence.
So, what does it mean to think you've been "tricked" or "misled" by hype in those previous games, when they basically delivered pretty much what they claimed to be?
I think what we're seeing here are people who translate "hype" into an idea that a new game, like Rift or Aion or Tera, will be the "next big thing", and that they'll be a part of the "next big thing" from the beginning. Then, when it turns out that their game is just another fairly successful, average MMOG, but certainly no WoW-klller, so to speak, they're disappointed and then say the game was "over-hyped". They wanted to be a part of the "next big thing", and when that didn't pan out, they considered it a failure.
I don't expect (nor care) GW2 to be the "next big thing"; as long as they deliver what they've already shown and stick to the design philosophy they've outlined, it's the game I'm going to play. Not because I think everyone and their barber's aunt is going to jump on board and it's going to be a WoW-killer , but because it offers me the game mechanics, style and graphics I want.
I don't buy games because they're "hyped"; I buy them because they offer me the gameplay I want. It's why I bought Might and Magic: Heroes and not Skyrim; why I'll buy the new Sins of a Solar Empire and not Diablo III. I do my due diligence, learn what the game is about and what it offers, and if it is the kind of game I like to play, I buy it - hype or not.
Nope. I got to play the game at PAX last year. I know exactly what I'm buying and it is the golden egg for me. If it keeps me entertained for only a year (the original kept me busy for 3) then I more than got my money's worth, and I anticipate I'll care about GW2 much longer than that.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Yay! Another thread claiming that the hype is over the top. Nope I will not be avoiding and I will be pre purchasing two copies. Others hype will not bother me because others expectation levels are not my own and in no way have an affect on me or my gaming experience. Also the game has no sub so there is little point to wait while things get worked out. If the game releases with bugs, doubtful due to the effort the team is putting out to release when it's ready, it still would not matter seeing as how I can put it down and pick it up later if I feel it still needs time. These forums have turned into a pretty bad QQ fest where the arguments against the game are laughable at best.
Edit: Also the prepurchase decision isn't based on hype. I have played the game and liked what I saw so it makes little difference whether I buy it a couple weeks after release or before the game releases since I already know I will enjoy it.
Have you actually seen what people are posting in this thread?
Even as sarcasm, it's still way over the top.
Yes. I read every post and I didn't see much. Peoples reasons for and even against being there on day one have been pretty rational. The few posts that were a little knee jerk were sarcastic and pretty funny. I rarely see anyone with over the top expectations yet I see a lot of those claiming they are tired of the hype and such. Don't get me wrong, there are gonna be let downs. I just fail to see what that has to do with anyone else but the ones that made the game out to be something it isnt and I fail to see the point in the OP other than yet another bait thread. But hell, since it didn't spiral out of control before I got to the last post, I decided to participate and give an honest answer.
Avoiding it for the first month ateast until the qq'rs and band wagon fans quit. You know the wanna be hardcore pvp'rs will the first to wuss out and cry nerf then quit. After that will come the WoW fanbois who will cry for x-server LFG and addons, then when they do not get it they will label GW2 a failure and go back to sucking on Blizzards tit.
Why any GW2 fan assume this game is immune to the retards in the mmo community is beyond me?
Don't see the point of waiting other than a few days to avoid the initial crowd.
On a P2P mmorpg waiting six months can save you up 90$ in subs (if 15$/month) while a disaster launch is patched.
A B2P game you either buy it or not once you see some reviews.
It is like waiting six month to buy the next no sub/single player big hit (like COD, Diablo3, FF, Metal gear etc... game), doesnt make much sense to me.
This same exact thread existed some time ago in the prelaunch forums of games such as: AoC,WAR,Aion,Rift,SWTOR...im sure ive missed a few.
The only thing consistant is that the overhype is always WRONG. This doesnt mean the listed games were terrible, its just...within a few months the lunatic style ravings of the game turn into doom and gloom. Typically playing the game changes these feeling. Its usually endgame that gets them all.
I expect to hear fanatical hate posts from 90% of the people raving for the game now whithin 1 month after launch. Happens every game.
I just wish one of these days people took a deep breath and approached the game with a level head...might actually enjoy the games you play longer than having every game fail to meet your unrealisticly high "god status" placed on every single overhyped MMO.
Ironic thing is that ill sit out the first month, and ill end up playing and enjoying the game longer than the people claiming GW2 is some mmorpg messiah.
One of these days, after mabey 20 or so mmo launches that go like this...you think more people will catch on to the "cycle" going on here with themepark mmorpgs?
Don't see the point of waiting other than a few days to avoid the initial crowd.
On a P2P mmorpg waiting six months can save you up 90$ in subs (if 15$/month) while a disaster launch is patched.
A B2P game you either buy it or not once you see some reviews.
It is like waiting six month to buy the next no sub/single player big hit (like COD, Diablo3, FF, Metal gear etc... game), doesnt make much sense to me.
Well, you could wait until it's on discount, but that'll probably be at least a year before you see any real price drops, since they can't exactly sell used copies.
I'm jumping into GW2 with both feet! After being disapointed with Age of Conan, Warhammer, Aion, Rift, etc, etc (list goes on), I should probably be skeptical of GW2. But... I love playing betas, and so far from what I have seen, read, and played myself (have already played GW2 beta), I think GW2 might be a great game. I'm certain that GW2 will have bugs and negatives (cash shop), just like any other game, but maybe, just maybe Anet got it right and we're in for a fun/great game. I guess we'll see!
Avoiding it for the first month ateast until the qq'rs and band wagon fans quit. You know the wanna be hardcore pvp'rs will the first to wuss out and cry nerf then quit. After that will come the WoW fanbois who will cry for x-server LFG and addons, then when they do not get it they will label GW2 a failure and go back to sucking on Blizzards tit.
Why any GW2 fan assume this game is immune to the retards in the mmo community is beyond me?
I don't think anybody assumes the game will be immune to retards, with one example of a retard being YOU.
Moving on, I m doing the whole pre purchase thing because 60 dollars for a game that can potentially give me 150+ hours of fun is always a good deal and it is far less than the money I spend on going to out on a shitty weekend.
Anyways, so far Arenanet has been able to keep their promises with respect to gameplay/mechanics. The only people I see hyping the game are the missinformed fanboys that don't understand how the mechanics work. a good example after playing the beta was tjhe QQ that DE wasn't that much different from quest; the problem with that is they clearly didn't understand what Arenanet was talking about and instead let their imaginations run wild.
Finally, when the game comes out I will effectively stop going to general forums and especially fansites like guru. I might visit profession discussion boards, but generally i find the whole fansite community to be worst than trash.
So...the OP's argument is that he likes to avoid games that actually look exciting until a few months have gone by.
I'm sorry, but I really don't get arguments like this. I mean, would you buy a game that doesn't look exciting right away? Or would you just never buy a game at release in general?
it's a 1 time payment of $60, look at it as you spending $2 a day on entertainment for a month, now consider how many months the average mmo lasts, it's worth the cash, why wait?
Bearing in mind what happened to the WoW players after GW1's opening day:
Accept a bit of ancient wisdom from the internet and PLEASE RTFM this time.
Some things are obviously very different about the current situation than 2005, but some people really shouldn't be playing a new game on opening day.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I'm sorry but I have been tricked by this level of hype before and I will not be tricked again. With the (arguably) pay to win model, the incredibly simplistic combat, the unbalanced zerg fest that is WvWvW, etc....I just do not see what the fanatics are smoking.
I have high hopes for Guild Wars 2 but will not be playing until the unrealistic hype is crushed and the game is brought back down to earth.
So you have "high hopes" for GW2, but you won't be "tricked" into buying it for 3-6 months because of "the (arguably) pay to win model, the incredibly simplistic combat, the unbalanced zerg fest...".
Does this make sense to you?
"Loading screens" are not "instances". Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
why avoid it? it's free...... pay once and you have it forever.
"It's free...pay once." Free no longer means what it use to mean.
Exactly.
Pay once for the box, expansions, and if you wan to compete in PvP spend on the cash shop. Looks almost free to me.
Why do I have to spend money on the cash shop to compete in PVP? That's false, nothing in the shop will affect how strong you are. It's only cosmetics.
I'll wait about a month after release to let the dust settle and this way I can pick a decent server for WvW. I don't think my new rig will be built come release anyway which is another reason.
"It's free...pay once." Free no longer means what it use to mean.
Exactly.
Pay once for the box, expansions, and if you want to compete in PvP spend on the cash shop. Looks almost free to me.
It is just one of those things that makes me nuts when I see. We all have them. I think its because my kids use this one all the time. Gamestop just had one of those sales where you buy 2 get 1 free. All I kept hearing for 2 days was that they wanted to get a free game. I couldn't get it through their heads that if you have to pay for something in order to get something else, it is by definition not free. I just actually expect more from the people around here, maybe unreasonably so. Saying something is free as long as you buy it first is just...ugh.
Nope, this game has had the most evidence based hype ive seen in a long time. im gonna be avoiding the game however because i have no real interest in it.
Because i can. I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out. Logic every gamers worst enemy.
I just want to start by saying I have no interest in GW2 to begin with. I dont wish for the game to fail, butI dont plan on playing it either.
Every new AAA MMO is surrounded by unrealistic hype. Avoiding this one because of it just means deep down you feel something about it is in some way special.
Nope, this game has had the most evidence based hype ive seen in a long time. im gonna be avoiding the game however because i have no real interest in it.
You just like to look in forums for games that don't interest you? Right on.
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What? You can't go over the top with sarcasm.
If you can't make fun of yourself and laugh at people's image of you, you're taking yourself too seriously!
I was totally amused at the idea of Jesus in line for his prepurchase.
As if he wasn't in the closed beta already.
I don't really understand those who say they have been bitten by recent MMOG "failures" and so they aren't going to get into GW2, but will rather wait until later when they see if it pans out.
What does that even mean? I passed on Rift, Aion, SWTOR, DDO, LOTRO, and countless free MMOGs because I read about them and they didn't offer me anything other than the same thing I had when I left WoW. It's not like any of those games "failed" - there's plenty of people playing them and enjoying them. In what sense did they "fail" to meet the reasonable expectations of anyone who played them?
It's not like they promised anything drastically new or different, or that they made claims they utterly failed at concerning in-game content and mechanics. Everyone who bought into those games knew what they were getting - basically a WoW clone with some specific variations and different graphics. I'm not putting them down - WoW is a great, successful game to mimic. But, if they bought into one of those games thinking it was going to be fundamentally different fro WoW, they obviously didn't do your due diligence.
So, what does it mean to think you've been "tricked" or "misled" by hype in those previous games, when they basically delivered pretty much what they claimed to be?
I think what we're seeing here are people who translate "hype" into an idea that a new game, like Rift or Aion or Tera, will be the "next big thing", and that they'll be a part of the "next big thing" from the beginning. Then, when it turns out that their game is just another fairly successful, average MMOG, but certainly no WoW-klller, so to speak, they're disappointed and then say the game was "over-hyped". They wanted to be a part of the "next big thing", and when that didn't pan out, they considered it a failure.
I don't expect (nor care) GW2 to be the "next big thing"; as long as they deliver what they've already shown and stick to the design philosophy they've outlined, it's the game I'm going to play. Not because I think everyone and their barber's aunt is going to jump on board and it's going to be a WoW-killer , but because it offers me the game mechanics, style and graphics I want.
I don't buy games because they're "hyped"; I buy them because they offer me the gameplay I want. It's why I bought Might and Magic: Heroes and not Skyrim; why I'll buy the new Sins of a Solar Empire and not Diablo III. I do my due diligence, learn what the game is about and what it offers, and if it is the kind of game I like to play, I buy it - hype or not.
Nope. I got to play the game at PAX last year. I know exactly what I'm buying and it is the golden egg for me. If it keeps me entertained for only a year (the original kept me busy for 3) then I more than got my money's worth, and I anticipate I'll care about GW2 much longer than that.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Yes. I read every post and I didn't see much. Peoples reasons for and even against being there on day one have been pretty rational. The few posts that were a little knee jerk were sarcastic and pretty funny. I rarely see anyone with over the top expectations yet I see a lot of those claiming they are tired of the hype and such. Don't get me wrong, there are gonna be let downs. I just fail to see what that has to do with anyone else but the ones that made the game out to be something it isnt and I fail to see the point in the OP other than yet another bait thread. But hell, since it didn't spiral out of control before I got to the last post, I decided to participate and give an honest answer.
RIP Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan and Paul Gray.
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Avoiding it for the first month ateast until the qq'rs and band wagon fans quit. You know the wanna be hardcore pvp'rs will the first to wuss out and cry nerf then quit. After that will come the WoW fanbois who will cry for x-server LFG and addons, then when they do not get it they will label GW2 a failure and go back to sucking on Blizzards tit.
Why any GW2 fan assume this game is immune to the retards in the mmo community is beyond me?
Don't see the point of waiting other than a few days to avoid the initial crowd.
On a P2P mmorpg waiting six months can save you up 90$ in subs (if 15$/month) while a disaster launch is patched.
A B2P game you either buy it or not once you see some reviews.
It is like waiting six month to buy the next no sub/single player big hit (like COD, Diablo3, FF, Metal gear etc... game), doesnt make much sense to me.
I guess you are right, I guess sarcasm is supposed to go over the top.
AoC,WAR,Aion,Rift,SWTOR...im sure ive missed a few.
The only thing consistant is that the overhype is always WRONG. This doesnt mean the listed games were terrible, its just...within a few months the lunatic style ravings of the game turn into doom and gloom. Typically playing the game changes these feeling. Its usually endgame that gets them all.
I expect to hear fanatical hate posts from 90% of the people raving for the game now whithin 1 month after launch. Happens every game.
I just wish one of these days people took a deep breath and approached the game with a level head...might actually enjoy the games you play longer than having every game fail to meet your unrealisticly high "god status" placed on every single overhyped MMO.
Ironic thing is that ill sit out the first month, and ill end up playing and enjoying the game longer than the people claiming GW2 is some mmorpg messiah.
One of these days, after mabey 20 or so mmo launches that go like this...you think more people will catch on to the "cycle" going on here with themepark mmorpgs?
Well, you could wait until it's on discount, but that'll probably be at least a year before you see any real price drops, since they can't exactly sell used copies.
I'm jumping into GW2 with both feet! After being disapointed with Age of Conan, Warhammer, Aion, Rift, etc, etc (list goes on), I should probably be skeptical of GW2. But... I love playing betas, and so far from what I have seen, read, and played myself (have already played GW2 beta), I think GW2 might be a great game. I'm certain that GW2 will have bugs and negatives (cash shop), just like any other game, but maybe, just maybe Anet got it right and we're in for a fun/great game. I guess we'll see!
I don't think anybody assumes the game will be immune to retards, with one example of a retard being YOU.
Moving on, I m doing the whole pre purchase thing because 60 dollars for a game that can potentially give me 150+ hours of fun is always a good deal and it is far less than the money I spend on going to out on a shitty weekend.
Anyways, so far Arenanet has been able to keep their promises with respect to gameplay/mechanics. The only people I see hyping the game are the missinformed fanboys that don't understand how the mechanics work. a good example after playing the beta was tjhe QQ that DE wasn't that much different from quest; the problem with that is they clearly didn't understand what Arenanet was talking about and instead let their imaginations run wild.
Finally, when the game comes out I will effectively stop going to general forums and especially fansites like guru. I might visit profession discussion boards, but generally i find the whole fansite community to be worst than trash.
I'm sorry, but I really don't get arguments like this. I mean, would you buy a game that doesn't look exciting right away? Or would you just never buy a game at release in general?
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
"It's free...pay once." Free no longer means what it use to mean.
it's a 1 time payment of $60, look at it as you spending $2 a day on entertainment for a month, now consider how many months the average mmo lasts, it's worth the cash, why wait?
Bearing in mind what happened to the WoW players after GW1's opening day:
Accept a bit of ancient wisdom from the internet and PLEASE RTFM this time.
Some things are obviously very different about the current situation than 2005, but some people really shouldn't be playing a new game on opening day.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Exactly.
Pay once for the box, expansions, and if you want to compete in PvP spend on the cash shop. Looks almost free to me.
No I'm not avoiding the game. But then I form my own opinions on things and don't rely on other peoples opinions and speculation.
So you have "high hopes" for GW2, but you won't be "tricked" into buying it for 3-6 months because of "the (arguably) pay to win model, the incredibly simplistic combat, the unbalanced zerg fest...".
Does this make sense to you?
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
"It's free...pay once." Free no longer means what it use to mean.
Exactly.
Pay once for the box, expansions, and if you wan to compete in PvP spend on the cash shop. Looks almost free to me.
Why do I have to spend money on the cash shop to compete in PVP? That's false, nothing in the shop will affect how strong you are. It's only cosmetics.I'll wait about a month after release to let the dust settle and this way I can pick a decent server for WvW. I don't think my new rig will be built come release anyway which is another reason.
Should read up on the game more.
It is just one of those things that makes me nuts when I see. We all have them. I think its because my kids use this one all the time. Gamestop just had one of those sales where you buy 2 get 1 free. All I kept hearing for 2 days was that they wanted to get a free game. I couldn't get it through their heads that if you have to pay for something in order to get something else, it is by definition not free. I just actually expect more from the people around here, maybe unreasonably so. Saying something is free as long as you buy it first is just...ugh.
Nope, this game has had the most evidence based hype ive seen in a long time. im gonna be avoiding the game however because i have no real interest in it.
Because i can.
I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
Logic every gamers worst enemy.
I just want to start by saying I have no interest in GW2 to begin with. I dont wish for the game to fail, butI dont plan on playing it either.
Every new AAA MMO is surrounded by unrealistic hype. Avoiding this one because of it just means deep down you feel something about it is in some way special.
Just food for thought.
You just like to look in forums for games that don't interest you? Right on.