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hilarious to see how retarded this community is that it fall to every troll.
gj op
And GW1 also didn't allow in-game currency to be shifted to item mall currency which allows for a win-win for both parties who partake in the trade. Keep in mind that you can buy many of the boosts, lockboxes and keys in the shop, from in-game vendors and merchants as well and the only thing a person playing the game could really want from the item mall is a costume or more character slots.
This is not a game.
should we say the same about Blizzard?
Blizzard is taking peoples money before the *final* details of how the Diablo3 AH is done?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/4062879314
GW2 is still in beta - people that want to prepurchase are aware of this
EQ2 fan sites
While it may be win-win for those who partake in the trade, it is a relative loss for the non-item maller that intended to compete with the item maller in terms of wealth, vanity or crafting. The item maller, if he is interested in those competitions, paid to get significant advantage in those competitions.
The current system is great for anyone who doesn't care about any competitions or only cares about the PvP one. We are though not sure yet how long grind guilds will need to do to catch up buff-wise with the item mallers in World vs World.
I don't remember that NCsoft forced anything on Anet in the case of GW 1... history tells a different story so far.
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I understand your concerns, and I appreciate that you worry so much about what I spend with my money.
You were never forced to Pre-Purchase, you can always watch videos once the first Beta Weekend happens, the Pre-Purchase will always be there, its not a limited time event.
The NDA will be lifted once the Beta Weekend starts, therefore you will get insider reviews on whether or not you should be buying the game, and still you are not forced.
They were giving away free Beta keys during PAX, and many websites and Blogger sites will be offering them for free, all you have to do is subscribe to them and listen to how to win.
Don't want to Pre-purchase?? then don't do it, those that did, did it because we wanted to. If you are so afraid of Cash Shops, Don't play WOW or LOL or Diablo 3, or any other game. Because they have Cash Shops in them. Its your Prerogative. In reality, GW2 is so different than other MMO out there, that there is no gear to buy or extra powers that actually makes any differences.
BTW, if you don't know, PVP is structured so you are always on even footing, how do you Pay to win in structured PVP.
Besides, W v W will always be off balanced due to population anyways, so how can that be Pay to win, and there is no Open World PVP therefore everyone is helping one another during PVE therefore how can there be Pay To Win, what do you actually Pay to win against.
I just don't understand the argument.
Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it.
You dont want GW2 then.
All games are not alike, nor should they be. If you are looking for those type of competitions, there are lots of games out there for that.
Anet has never talked about GW2 that way. It was designed around the idea of esports. In other words teh game is mostly about PvP.
What your doing, is like buying an apple, then complaining it doesnt taste like an orange.
When have I stated anything about my personal preferences that would let you draw the conclusion that I wouldn't want GW2?
I agree GW2 will have esports but it will offer plenty of PVE in the realms of wealth, vanity, and crafting too
GW2 is *not* primarily a pvp game despite what you think
EQ2 fan sites
You make a good point. My money is staying in my pocket until I see more information. Some typical MMO underhandedness going on here at the moment, in my opinion.
But it would cost me so much more
In other words, GW2 has PvP tacked on and will the usual lagfest on an average PC? Ok, roger.
I am likely going to be playing this MMO anyhow. If the cash shop is a hinderence to the game i will stop after a month and not buy any expansions. If its not i will continue playing and buying future content.
Might surprise you to know... they don't have MY money.
If someone wants to buy in on total faith, that's their unwise decision to make. For me, I won't touch an MMO til' I can play it first(always my rule), and since I'm not in beta, I'm not even close to the decision making process yet.
"Let the fools have their tartar sauce..."
What Anet is doing is not unprecedented. Matter of fact, you could argue that companies are taking people's money at launch before they know what's in... patch 1.2. People bought LotRO at launch before knowing what would be in the Turbine store 4 years later.
If people are concerned about the cash shop being P2W, then they aren't gonna buy til' they know what's in it. They don't need you to advise them.
Now you are just trolling or being sarcastic. PvP has been a major focus although not the only focus of GW2; it is not an afterthought. As for the lag: that's a good major concern for which we won't know the answer until we have results from large-scale public betas.
Yea they have no interest in anyone not using the cash shop after buying the box? only who are they going to sell the games expansions to they will shit out when the game is fully released?
You don't have to go out of your way to show us you have no clue about what you are talking about...
I'm not sure as why everything that is brought up that might be slightly negative, should be clarified as "trolling". The cashshop and the pre-purchase of Guild Wars 2 are subjects that some posters seem to have problems with. This forum should be a place to discuss them. At least that's what I believe.
Then again, by your divine standards everyone here is retarded. But please, even if the OP made an attempt to trolling, you can at least try to contribute to this thread in some sensible way. Sometimes troll attempts start some interesting discussions. More fun that way, as I like to picture the face of the would-be-troll in my mind, shedding his troll-tears.
Back on topic, something I forgot to mention earlier, I'm curious to see what the trading of these gems will do with the economy. In EVE-Online it turned out in an interesting way, but there you bought gametime, which isn't the case in Guild Wars 2. Difficult to predict the impact it will have here.
It is not unprecedented in that even Blizzard did it with WoW.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Don't play then.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I find it amusing that concerns over the uncertainty of the cash shop and the possible inclusion of P2W are met with such vitriol.
The worry over the cash shop is legitimate, yet it seems that blind faith and a wasteful consumeristic stance -- "it's my money I'll do what I want with it" -- trumps reality.
Personally I'm cautiously looking forward to this game. The cash shop is the one thing that can drag this game down... so I'm taking the sane approach and not throwing my money at ANet until I'm satisfied with the final condition of the game.
Who should not play then? The OP? Although he raves against P2W, perhaps he is one who plays games where he can P2W and is tired of people moaning against that system.
You just can't always use the sentence "Don't play then" to debunke every negative argument.
You don't agree? Don't post then
What reality are you referring? It must be your own special one, because we dont even know whats all in the CS. There is no reason at all to think they will suddenly put P2W items in there.
Yet you say this is a reality, and expect other people to stop what they are doing.
Thats some amazing logic you have there.
Concern is understandable. Caution is understandable and advised. But to paint a Snidely Whiplash moustache on Anet for starting preorders before cash shop content is disclosed is... just silly. Anybody who cares about what's in the shop will wait.
No one cares what you do with your money but when MMO players throw money at games like GW2 it only shows other companies that we approve of cash shops and lack of any long term incentives in a game.
When WoW came out, we all jumped on board and look where it took the industry. I think a lot of us are concerned with what we're seeing with GW2 and would strongly prefer that the industry not follow in ArenaNet's footsteps.
Sure the game will be decent and fun but it's not what many would like to see in an MMO. Unfortunately, the MMO community has been so beaten down over the past few years that somehow Guild Wars 2 has become the most anticipated game in quite some time.
Some may praise where the genre is going but I don't really like it. I put up with it but haven't felt very inspired by a game in quite a long time.