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[mod edit] I have things to say about TERA

nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

SWTOR when it was released I did not like it at all, I felt it was better suited as a single player rpg, the game was too easy, the classes were not fun, skills and combat did not feel fluid, the PVE instances were not fun. I did not like the game at all. I gave the game a 3/10 only points for graphics and voice acting and a point for it actually be a sci fi star wars online rpg.  I was called a troll and blasted non stop, but in the end SWTOR lived up to be a horrible MMORPG.

Now i played teras open beta, and wow, I have been critical of every mmorpg released, age of conan, swtor, lotro, vanguard etc etc, any every time I blast them I was called a WoW fan boy and a troll but in the end these games went to or are going to free to play and ended up not being good.

As a huge WoW fan, "PRE Cataclysm". I started tera, right off the back I was wowed by the graphics incredible, but graphics do not win me over, gameplay does, and boy does it sure live up to it, I have access to diablo 3 beta and I have yet to really touch it, TERA is very addicting, combat while not revolutionary still feels extremely fluid and fun, I made a popori lancer that looked like a puppy and the combat was great fun, I felt like I was in complete control of my character and it made grinding "if any grinding", less boring because combat was actually fun.

 

The quest were kill X to get Y, but I didnt mind it, I knew what I was getting into another theme park mmorpg which it is no denying it, but the monsters looked great, I couldnt wait to kill something new cause each new monster looked creepy and more bad ass than the next. Quest while some were interesting were like what you see in every mmorpg they have their ups and their downs, but leveling was quick and rewarding through questing.

So i get to level 12, I get my mount and I head to the first PVP area, the lumber thingy I cant remember the name, but there were level 20s - 30s ganking outside the area, which I found thrilling, I never felt this thrill since UO, and with it being non factioned based you formed your own allies to try to push them back.  I loved the ganking part even though I was being ganked because of the thrill, running outside, collecting my quest items and looking around my shoulder to hurry up and getting back on my mount.

With this mmorpg not having factions is a huge plus, factions should not be in mmorpgs, they only break the community, and causes a huge imbalance (SWTOR) for example. This is a huge huge plus that I can form alliances or enemies with any one.

So far I played the game 1-12 as a lancer, so far its been AMAZING  one of the best next gen mmorpgs to come out and one of the best mmorpgs to come out since WOW. I have already made a pre order. Long live TERA

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  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    For alot of people, ganking gets very annoying after awhile. I used to like it too, played SB, and it even became boring for the one doing the gankong after awhile. It s always a big thing when a game with this mechanic releases, then becomes the same few guilds owning a server. This in itself will wreck the OWPvP. If this was my forst MMO with this mechanic, I might argue with what I ust said, but it s not, and I ve seen it in ever game that offers this.

  • ChrisboxChrisbox Member UncommonPosts: 1,729

    Im on the same boat man, i think TERA is the best MMO to release in the past two years.   GW2 will probably be equally as good but long live this game, i will definitly be buying.

    Played-Everything
    Playing-LoL

  • DarkPonyDarkPony Member Posts: 5,566

    Originally posted by nomatics856

    SWTOR when it was released I did not like it at all, I felt it was better suited as a single player rpg, the game was too easy, the classes were not fun, skills and combat did not feel fluid, the PVE instances were not fun. I did not like the game at all. I gave the game a 3/10 only points for graphics and voice acting and a point for it actually be a sci fi star wars online rpg.  I was called a troll and blasted non stop, but in the end SWTOR lived up to be a horrible MMORPG.

    Now i played teras open beta, and wow, I have been critical of every mmorpg released, age of conan, swtor, lotro, vanguard etc etc, any every time I blast them I was called a WoW fan boy and a troll but in the end these games went to or are going to free to play and ended up not being good.

    As a huge WoW fan, "PRE Cataclysm". I started tera, right off the back I was wowed by the graphics incredible, but graphics do not win me over, gameplay does, and boy does it sure live up to it, I have access to diablo 3 beta and I have yet to really touch it, TERA is very addicting, combat while not revolutionary still feels extremely fluid and fun, ...

    Up to this point you did a great job trying to convince us that your opinion is a very worthwhile one but then you had to go and say this ...

    I made a popori lancer that looked like a puppy

    *snipage*

  • KehdarKehdar Member UncommonPosts: 441

    Originally posted by Leucent

    For alot of people, ganking gets very annoying after awhile. I used to like it too, played SB, and it even became boring for the one doing the gankong after awhile. It s always a big thing when a game with this mechanic releases, then becomes the same few guilds owning a server. This in itself will wreck the OWPvP. If this was my forst MMO with this mechanic, I might argue with what I ust said, but it s not, and I ve seen it in ever game that offers this.

    Oh this is fun, when i don't like a game i usually uninstall and move on, while you are predicting doom and gloom in every tera post. 

    You, like many others, seem to be on a personal crusade against this game, and this really baffle me.

  • HimemiyaHimemiya Member Posts: 139

    Originally posted by Kehdar

    Originally posted by Leucent

    For alot of people, ganking gets very annoying after awhile. I used to like it too, played SB, and it even became boring for the one doing the gankong after awhile. It s always a big thing when a game with this mechanic releases, then becomes the same few guilds owning a server. This in itself will wreck the OWPvP. If this was my forst MMO with this mechanic, I might argue with what I ust said, but it s not, and I ve seen it in ever game that offers this.

    Oh this is fun, when i don't like a game i usually uninstall and move on, while you are predicting doom and gloom in every tera post. 

    You, like many others, seem to be on a personal crusade against this game, and this really baffle me.

    They're not happy with this game aiming at a niche crowd, they don't want people to enjoy it and would rather see it burn to the ground.

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    L2P TERA combat:

  • dimasokdimasok Member UncommonPosts: 183

    Honeslty giving SWTOR 3/10 and then praising TERA is the same as being a troll... because it simply doesnt make any sense

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by DarkPony

    Originally posted by nomatics856

    SWTOR when it was released I did not like it at all, I felt it was better suited as a single player rpg, the game was too easy, the classes were not fun, skills and combat did not feel fluid, the PVE instances were not fun. I did not like the game at all. I gave the game a 3/10 only points for graphics and voice acting and a point for it actually be a sci fi star wars online rpg.  I was called a troll and blasted non stop, but in the end SWTOR lived up to be a horrible MMORPG.

    Now i played teras open beta, and wow, I have been critical of every mmorpg released, age of conan, swtor, lotro, vanguard etc etc, any every time I blast them I was called a WoW fan boy and a troll but in the end these games went to or are going to free to play and ended up not being good.

    As a huge WoW fan, "PRE Cataclysm". I started tera, right off the back I was wowed by the graphics incredible, but graphics do not win me over, gameplay does, and boy does it sure live up to it, I have access to diablo 3 beta and I have yet to really touch it, TERA is very addicting, combat while not revolutionary still feels extremely fluid and fun, ...

    Up to this point you did a great job trying to convince us that your opinion is a very worthwhile one but then you had to go and say this ...

    I made a popori lancer that looked like a puppy

    *snipage*

    Hey when a class and race can make me feel like im playing a kingdom hearts mmorpg, im sticking with it, popori rock.

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by dimasok

    Honeslty giving SWTOR 3/10 and then praising TERA is the same as being a troll... because it simply doesnt make any sense

    Why do you say that? TERA is an actually mmorpg. SWTOR gets a low raiting because its a single player rpg masking itsself as a mmorpg with its online elements.

  • BigbadwlfBigbadwlf Member UncommonPosts: 117

    Thank you for your post.  I can see people that don't like SW:TOR, enjoying Tera's gameplay.  Even though they are both Trinity based games, they could not be anymore opposite.  I really /faceplam when people are talking about the features in SW:TOR like that game has become the industry standard.  I guess giving away free game time will become industry standard then.

    Seriously though, there is no doubt that SW:TOR is a huge success, there's definitely a market for Single-Player MMORPGs(?), but Tera proves you can take an MMO completely in the opposite direction without having to sacrifice the trinity, and it's good to see people enjoying it.

  • BizkitNLBizkitNL Member RarePosts: 2,546

    Originally posted by Kehdar

    Originally posted by Leucent

    For alot of people, ganking gets very annoying after awhile. I used to like it too, played SB, and it even became boring for the one doing the gankong after awhile. It s always a big thing when a game with this mechanic releases, then becomes the same few guilds owning a server. This in itself will wreck the OWPvP. If this was my forst MMO with this mechanic, I might argue with what I ust said, but it s not, and I ve seen it in ever game that offers this.

    Oh this is fun, when i don't like a game i usually uninstall and move on, while you are predicting doom and gloom in every tera post. 

    You, like many others, seem to be on a personal crusade against this game, and this really baffle me.

    You don't prove him wrong at all.

    Which I understand, since he does have a point.

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  • minime2minime2 Member Posts: 113

    That's why SWG was so good their TEF system was great idea if attacked a faction npc or went overt you could be attacked , otherwise you were 100% safe .

  • MephsterMephster Member Posts: 1,188

    They called you a troll because they feared you were going to be right and you were. Great job!

    Grim Dawn, the next great action rpg!

    http://www.grimdawn.com/

  • Stimos8Stimos8 Member UncommonPosts: 163

    I absolutely agree, having played almost every name game wow, lotro, war, aoc, aion, swtor, rift etc... and critisized/ disliked everyone except wow / rift, i can safely say that Tera is a pretty awesome game, and i do indeed have high hopes for it. Im a level 32 warrior atm (max level in open beta) and enjoying it alot. Also i dont see ganking being a problem at all, cause what alot of people seem to be forgetting is the channels, near the minimap you simply click on them and move to a different channel with different players in it. You can still get killed randomly once by someone, but not "ganked" if you dont want, which is defined by someone repeatedly killing you. These channels share the same chat etc... there and everyone goes to the same insance (if in a group/ party) and same cities etc...

    So yeah all in all Tera is fantastic and one bloody good game.

  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,104

    lol at you trying to make your opinions sound like fact which is probably why you got flamed.

     

    I personally feel like TERA is boring as hell. I can't stand it, and that's mostly because I've played SW:TOR. Unlike you, I feel like SW:TOR is the right direction for MMO's. They could do things better with it, sure but that's the case with any game, and mostly based on opinions and preferences rather than there being truly something wrong with the game. It feels like an MMO, it plays like an MMO, it's fluid and well polished for the most part for a brand new MMO built off a brand new engine from a company that's never done an MMO before. The quest system is vastly improved from what we're so used to, which is a drab and uncreative, pointless uphill trek rather than an enjoyable and engaging experience which SW:TOR provides for probably the first time in MMO history. I've seen people leave the game, and come back and say they can't play other games now thanks to that game so BioWare is clearly doing many things right. Considering they've got almost 2 million subscribers at this point, and yes that is accurate despite what you might be lead to believe, TERA won't come close to that, and should SW:TOR drop off over time, it's still a really good MMO compared to everything else out there right now. For it to launch with even one million subscribers after it's first month is ridiculously good, and hasn't been matched yet by any game, even WoW launched with 350k players, and stayed that way for the first year of it's release and even saw a drop off for a while. So all this "SWTOR IS BAD" crap can f*ck off til there's any real basis for that, I'm so over it.

    TERA on the other hand provides a profoundly dull, and repetitive leveling experience with absolutely 0 feeling of involvement in anything going on in the game world, the animations are cool, the graphics are actually not AS good as they look in a screenshot, even maxed out, something about them look profoundly plastic and...Off.... It runs great for me, but it looks and feels like an old game. I'm tired of MMO's that present a pretty world to look at with virtually no real sense of being a world at all, whether that be presented in a decently in depth story (preferably for me) or otherwise. The combat is cool for 10 minutes, but really in the end all it does is make every encounter feel and look the same. Overall I think this game is going to fail as a subscription game in the U.S. and Europe within a couple months, and that's being liberal with my time allotment on this title.

    I know I'm gonna get flamed by TERA fanboy's but if you think this game is going to be more successful than SW:TOR or any other major title in recent history or the near future I'm going to rofl at you in a few months when it's faring far worse than any of them.

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254

    I'm a fan of the combat. I'm not a fan of the PvP system in place.

     

    PvP tends to be important to me and this game doesn't offer what I'm looking for. I could go into all of the reasons, but really it just feels a lot like a game without PvP features that are common in other MMORPGs. I feel like if you don't include player looting, then the fun part about FFA PvP goes away. And if you don't have a solid FFA PvP system, you better have a solid organized PvP system. This game doesn't have that.

     

    It's just not for me.

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by Leucent

    For alot of people, ganking gets very annoying after awhile. I used to like it too, played SB, and it even became boring for the one doing the gankong after awhile. It s always a big thing when a game with this mechanic releases, then becomes the same few guilds owning a server. This in itself will wreck the OWPvP. If this was my forst MMO with this mechanic, I might argue with what I ust said, but it s not, and I ve seen it in ever game that offers this.

    But the beauty of it is, there are servers for those that dont want this kind of game play and those who do. Those seeking the SB/UO era gameplay will definitely love pvp servers those who dont will go to PVE servers. Why would some one that doesnt like or like the thrill of being ganked go to a PVP server?

  • PieRadPieRad Member Posts: 1,108

    Short of the combat, if you played Aion, you've played this game already.

    The combat is not gonna hold this game up alone, I think that in a month time, people will get bored, don't take this as a personal attack on you, I'm just saying, that is what I think about it, and I did not enjoy this one.

     

    If you did, great.

     

    Later

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  • HimemiyaHimemiya Member Posts: 139

    Originally posted by Valentina

    lol at you trying to make your opinions sound like fact which is probably why you got flamed.

     

    I personally feel like TERA is boring as hell. I can't stand it, and that's mostly because I've played SW:TOR. Unlike you, I feel like SW:TOR is the right direction for MMO's. They could do things better with it, sure but that's the case with any game, and mostly based on opinions and preferences rather than there being truly something wrong with the game. It feels like an MMO, it plays like an MMO, it's fluid and well polished for the most part for a brand new MMO built off a brand new engine from a company that's never done an MMO before. The quest system is vastly improved from what we're so used to, which is a drab and uncreative, pointless uphill trek rather than an enjoyable and engaging experience which SW:TOR provides for probably the first time in MMO history. I've seen people leave the game, and come back and say they can't play other games now thanks to that game so BioWare is clearly doing many things right. Considering they've got almost 2 million subscribers at this point, and yes that is accurate despite what you might be lead to believe, TERA won't come close to that, and should SW:TOR drop off over time, it's still a really good MMO compared to everything else out there right now. For it to launch with even one million subscribers after it's first month is ridiculously good, and hasn't been matched yet by any game, even WoW launched with 350k players, and stayed that way for the first year of it's release and even saw a drop off for a while. So all this "SWTOR IS BAD" crap can f*ck off til there's any real basis for that, I'm so over it.

    TERA on the other hand provides a profoundly dull, and repetitive leveling experience with absolutely 0 feeling of involvement in anything going on in the game world, the animations are cool, the graphics are actually not AS good as they look in a screenshot, even maxed out, something about them look profoundly plastic and...Off.... It runs great for me, but it looks and feels like an old game. I'm tired of MMO's that present a pretty world to look at with virtually no real sense of being a world at all, whether that be presented in a decently in depth story (preferably for me) or otherwise. The combat is cool for 10 minutes, but really in the end all it does is make every encounter feel and look the same. Overall I think this game is going to fail as a subscription game in the U.S. and Europe within a couple months, and that's being liberal with my time allotment on this title.

    I know I'm gonna get flamed by TERA fanboy's but if you think this game is going to be more successful than SW:TOR or any other major title in recent history or the near future I'm going to rofl at you in a few months when it's faring far worse than any of them.

    Holy mackarel I almost fell off my chair!

    Wrap her up boys, she's gone.

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  • KehdarKehdar Member UncommonPosts: 441

    Originally posted by Himemiya

     

    They're not happy with this game aiming at a niche crowd, they don't want people to enjoy it and would rather see it burn to the ground.

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    Yep, i noticed that in the mmorpg market when somoene doesn't like a game automatically the game in question is guilty of a capital sin. 

    I won't go so far as to say those people are delusional and self-absorbed, but they have this weird concept that every game is made only for them and if they don't like it, the game have failed them.

     

     


    Originally posted by BizkitNL

     

    You don't prove him wrong at all.

    Which I understand, since he does have a point.

    I don't prove him wrong cause

    1) I don't care about pvp.

    2) He's an opinion and I can't prove wrong an opinion.

    My problem is the way he is predicting doom to Tera in every post. Tera is not only owpvp, i'm rolling on a pve server and i can't care less about owpvp. 

    But again, talking about self-absorbed people, i always noticed how pvpers tend to think that everything revolves around them, while is pretty clear there are more pve than pvp players. 

  • Games888Games888 Member Posts: 243

    sorry u lose ur credibility for doing a review from 1-12, any new mmo is amazing from 1-12 come back when u hit max level.  Swtor beta was amazing from 1-10, 11-20 ok, 21-30 getting boring, 31-50 k finally max out time to cancel my preorder.  u see my point.

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by PieRad

    Short of the combat, if you played Aion, you've played this game already.

    The combat is not gonna hold this game up alone, I think that in a month time, people will get bored, don't take this as a personal attack on you, I'm just saying, that is what I think about it, and I did not enjoy this one.

     

    If you did, great.

     

    Later

    TBH i dont think its much like AION at all, they share similarties sure like WOW and EQ but AION wasnt a bad game, it just had some flaws that could have been fixed such as the grinding/leveling issue and the lack of group content which is non existant in this game.

  • nomatics856nomatics856 Member UncommonPosts: 219

    Originally posted by Games888

    sorry u lose ur credibility for doing a review from 1-12, any new mmo is amazing from 1-12 come back when u hit max level.

    I know 1-12 isnt far in but I never praised a game unless praise was due, I new SWTOR was garbage from 1-10.

  • BigbadwlfBigbadwlf Member UncommonPosts: 117

    Originally posted by Himemiya

    Originally posted by Kehdar


    Originally posted by Leucent

    For alot of people, ganking gets very annoying after awhile. I used to like it too, played SB, and it even became boring for the one doing the gankong after awhile. It s always a big thing when a game with this mechanic releases, then becomes the same few guilds owning a server. This in itself will wreck the OWPvP. If this was my forst MMO with this mechanic, I might argue with what I ust said, but it s not, and I ve seen it in ever game that offers this.

    Oh this is fun, when i don't like a game i usually uninstall and move on, while you are predicting doom and gloom in every tera post. 

    You, like many others, seem to be on a personal crusade against this game, and this really baffle me.

    They're not happy with this game aiming at a niche crowd, they don't want people to enjoy it and would rather see it burn to the ground.

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    I can tell you that the trolling isn't just Tera related, it seems that Diablo 3 players are in the same boat.  People play the game to level 13 of D3 beta and then complain like the first 13 levels is the whole game. And then the GW2 vs Diablo 3 comparisons? Why?!?  It's generally accepted that this is the #1 site for people that want to bash games they don't like instead of talking about the games they do like.

    On topic:

    SW:TOR and Tera are completely the opposite in every single aspect that I can think of.  Overall I think that's a good thing because I can see them both co-existing in the P2P market.

    Edit: You can't fault a player for liking a game early on.  It's generally accepted that MMOs only get better as you level up, so it's blantant ignorance to assume a game is BAD if they haven't leveled up.  SW:TOR is the exception in that Bioware openly marketed it as a copy/paste version of WoW with voice acting and SW's IP, and sold very well to that demographic.

  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157

    If you don't want to get ganked go to a NON PVP Server.

    But think of it like this DarkFall is worse you die you loose all your gear.

  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136
    No, TERA won't have 1mil preorders and won't start off with 1.7mil subs, neither would SWTOR have without the SW. The "direction" is not going to be copied again without advanced text to speech because the cost was way too high.

    I think I see the disconnect here. We're not arguing what's going to be the most successful, we're expressing what we think is BETTER. This is going to be different for each person and if you can't deal with that go ask for a hug. This is the TERA forums ladies and gentleman, you are going to find threads like this, people who *gasp* like TERA.

    Thanks for the take Nomatics

    Just not worth my time anymore.

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