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I guess you ll hate the fact they re bringing in BGs then. Also, you can gain monarch status through BGs, Lol, the worst idea I ve seen yet in a MMO.
Is there anything in Tera that you don't consider the worst idea you ve seen yet in a mmo?
Sorry, but how isn t that a terrible idea. For a game that people claim to have such amazing OWPvP with no rewards, then they have this, I mean really, BG wins count for control. It was tried in WAR and well sucked. Nothing outside, real battles for areas should count for control.
Oh but i wasn't commenting on this particular post, you seem to dislike every single aspect of the game, i found it curious.
Anyway, more on topic:
1) They removed the to have more time for balancing things, so i don't know how they are going to sort this out.
2) I don't play on PVP server so i like the idea of BGs.
3) In Vanarch elections, you don't fight in normal BGs, there is a sort of tournament. I don't see this has such a bad idea. It balance the outcome between huge and small guild. If it were to be decided by OPWPVP the small guild will never have a chance at it.
If it will end up, in "queue for BG's" again, over and over, it probably wont last long with me...
didnt know that....
oh well...
Ten GWII is a better option.. since all there is, is BG;.. and its free to play after you buy the box...
there is no open world.. just the open PVE world...
no he don't, it is very ovbious he hates everything about the game. my question is, why did the op bother to write this thread to begin with?
Except their culture and how they portray things DOES matter.
This is an eastern product. No matter how much people want to deny it, this is an art design seen through their eyes. Just because "some" Westerners can't reconcile this fact doesn't mean that there aren't others who recognize this.
Westernization only goes so far.
The whole reason you see it as a teeny bopper is because you jsut don't have any other reference to link it to. If you grew up in a culture where these characters were prevalent it might be different.
They are offering one of their games and altering it enough so that Western audiences can more readily play it. But there is a difference between making it more readily playable and completely changing the art design.
The choice here is that if people don't like it they don't have to play it.
I"ve studied enough art and am more than familiar wiht enough western artists who create material far more racy/controversial than "the elin" that it seems a bit ridiculous for people to be getting up in arms over this stuff.
If this is what people are poitnting to as poor taste I should invite you to some notable art galleries so you can have your world turned upside down.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
From what you on the TERA forum, people are excited about TERA??? Wow, who would have thunk it!
Log into WoW or Rift or EQ2 or LOTRO and see what the excitement is for TERA. People talked about SWTOOR there, they talk about GW2, they even talked about Rift. No one talks about TERA.
And bringing up GW2 only disproves your argument. Why? Look at they hype for GW2 vs. the hype for TERA. TERA has a full action system, and its all that it is famous for. GW2 uses a combo of tab target and free aim. GW2 also promises to do away with other stale elements of MMORPGs (note I said promises). The game with exclusively aim based combat is 6th on the hype meter. The game that still uses tab targetting, but changes other MMO conventions, is 1 by a huge margin.
If it was truly aim based, action combat that everyone wanted wouldnt TERAs hype be at least top 3, especially since it releases in a week?
The difference between you and me, is that I'm not talking on behalf of the western community, I said: "on this forum" and pretty much everyone on this forum is looking forward to one of the two games, more for GW2 no doubt.
Then I noted that both games choose a more action style combat than their predecessor and this is pretty much stated in every posts talking about Tera and GW2.
People are fighting about which one of the 2 feel more action. And I bet i can find some post in your history where you were attacking Tera arguing that GW2 is more action.
Now, since you want to prove a senseless point you are telling me that GW2 is more a traditional game. You are really something.
So, for you, has GW2 a traditional combat or an action combat?
Care to point out where i said that Tera is the game that everyone wants? I said more than once that Tera will be a niche game, so pleade don't put words in my mouth.
What are the most integral parts of an MMO? In my opinion they are Artstyle, World Design and combat system/mechanics. These are hard to change post launch. Things like placed entities (in the world), quest systems, reward systems and added content such as dungeons are much easier to implement.
I think TERA has a great future depending on what BHS and their respective publishers do from here.
Just not worth my time anymore.
Ah right| Thanks Deron, I forgot to comment on this...
Why Tera is not in the first 3 voted games?
Since you seems to belive WoW is the bible of MMORPGs, may i ask you why isn't WoW in the top 3 voted games?
I can only guess that a lot of people like you gave Tera a 0/10 on hype, that's the main reason is not in the top hyped games.
But if we switch to popular:
We have Tera as #4 of the day, #3 of the week, #4 of the month and #6 in the last 6 months. So after all there is someone interested in the game out there.
Maybe not you, but again, you don't speak on the behalf of all players, even if you like to think so.
I was talking about the western audience as a whole. You tried to use the TERA forums to try to disprove my opinion of the western audience, but now you are trying to backtrack and say you werent trying to say something about the western audience? In other words, you are saying 'disregard my previous post because it made no sense towards the argument"
And Darkfall is number 7 of the last 6 months. What does that tell you about how well this site represents the MMORPG community as a whole?
You wont win this if you are basing your views on MMORPGs based off what the MMORPG.com community thinks, or especially what the TERA forum of the mmorpg.com community thinks
The poll that Kehdar posted is not a scientific poll, but nonetheless, I think it does represent, if anything, a decent amount of interest by the mmo playerbase in Tera. I don't think Tera will become one of the major mmorpgs in the market, but I think that within 6-12 months it will become a f2p game (at least b2p) with a respectable number of concurrent players.
Exactly, you were talking about the western audience as a whole, without having any ground. Unless you work in some major marketing studio and you have some researchs to back your statement.
I didn't talk on behalf of the western audience, cause I can't possibily know what the western hemisphere thinks. I was talking about this forum and not only the Tera forum, i was talking about this board in general, if you check the recent post almost all of them are on GW2 or Tera, and as i said both games adopted a more action direction for their combat.
What I'm pointing out is that the players on this board are part of the western audience, and they seem interested in action combat.
Now this community may be the black sheep, and everyone else may dislike action combat, but until you bring some proof of it, my example offer a more solid ground.
And please, you may know what the entire western audience thinks, but I can assure you, you have no idea of what i'm thinking so don't put words in my mouth.
LOL, again you move the goalpost, you were the one to cite MMORPG.com as example i just proved to you it's not reliable.
You won't win this argument by using cheap debate tricks and fallacies.
Oh but the point here is not if Tera will be a succes or not, I'm arguing against his statement that players around 30 don't want an action combat.
mmorpg.com community. In the last 6 months there is roughly the same interest n TERA as there is in darkfall.
Obviously the last month will have a big spike in interest as the game is launching. It is a AAA, big budget MMORPG and those will always get attention. Tons of curious people have tried the game out, and opinons are clearly very mixed.
After TERA release the secondary (non GW2) interest will start shifting to TSW ecause thats the next AAA launch.
I have only one thing to say about this thread. I have seen this same thread title for every single game ever released. It's getting really old. Every game is going to fail....blah blah blah blah blah. Give me a fucking break. If I never see this title again it will be too soon.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
Just dont check the TSW forums in early june
Woa... If the name of this game annoy you so much, my advice to you is to avoid coming on Tera forum...
He didnt mean the title of the game, the title of the thread rather, and I agree there.
Ops sorry then