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Isn't it a good time to bring back some dead games with F2P?

GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

It never made any sense to me that games like EnB, Tabula Rasa and Auto Assault had the floor yanked out from under them, when tons of games that can't maintain high paid subs are making the F2P switch. It's not like games were facing an issue with player retention that long ago, but they finally got wise to things fairly recently.

I'm not sure what happened to the Gods and Heroes 'rebirth', but I think it's about damned time to bring some dead oldies back... namely Auto Assault (until Twisted Metal gets SOE'd).

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  • JakardJakard Member Posts: 415

    Three words:

    Asheron's Call 2

  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230

    Tabula Rasa was completely free for a time and it still didn't pick up a lot of players.

    Many games that are dead now are dead for a reason. You'd have to invest in a dead, failed product without any guarantee that it will do good this time.

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  • dubyahitedubyahite Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    I doubt it will happen.

    Then again I didn't expect to see games like APB, hellgate, and mythic brought back either.

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  • dubyahitedubyahite Member UncommonPosts: 2,483
    Not mythic, mythos. Damn iphon autocorrect.

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  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257
    More games should die and free up good IPs. Lotro for starters. Keeping failed MMOs alive with f2p lead devs to illusions that they've actually done a good job. MMOs die for reason - they are either garbage or they die because of old age. People always find good games because quality is the best publicity.
  • IchmenIchmen Member UncommonPosts: 1,228

    while i would totally play an AA-reloaded... it would need alot more polish.. when i played during its free period it lacked sooo much stuff that it felt rushed and more alphaed then anything. 

    major downer for me is you spend 90% of the whole game in a car.. yet there is no music... nothing but gun fire and stuff.. which gets boring really fast. as well most bosses werent really a challenge. i recall tag teaming the helo boss with a guy without wiping at all. 

    boss should have taken more people or wiped us but didnt. (and no i dont recall being higher level then it..)

     

    havent touched the others you posted.. but id love to see some of the older games reloaded... hard to say if they will most are "dated" now so gamers now might not want to play them without a vast over haul 

  • JakardJakard Member Posts: 415

    Originally posted by dubyahite

    Not mythic, mythos. Damn iphon autocorrect.

    You talking about the game made by Flagship Studios. Technically it's still around. It's just a Korean developed game now. Haven't played it since it left FSS though.

  • NavacNavac Member Posts: 37

    Originally posted by Jakard

    Three words:

    Asheron's Call 2

    First MMO I ever played, I was like 9 or 10 at the time.  the 3 factions and having guild battles was awesome.

  • JakardJakard Member Posts: 415

    Yeah, Asheron's Call 2 was one of my first MMOs that I really liked lathough if you pressed me now, I can't tell you what I liked about it but I did remember liking most everything about it except some of the technical problems they never seemed to get a grip on and the fact they released the expansion and then canceled the game very quickly after. LOL

  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460
    Originally posted by Navac
    Originally posted by Jakard

    Three words:

    Asheron's Call 2

    First MMO I ever played, I was like 9 or 10 at the time.  the 3 factions and having guild battles was awesome.

    While I have good memories of AC2's gameplay (my reap zerker was really fun to play), I also remember how utterly linear the game was. Sorry, I forgot my rose colored nostalgia goggles today ;-)

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  • spookydomspookydom Member UncommonPosts: 1,782
    Originally posted by Quirhid

    Tabula Rasa was completely free for a time and it still didn't pick up a lot of players.

    Many games that are dead now are dead for a reason. You'd have to invest in a dead, failed product without any guarantee that it will do good this time.

    It was my understanding that TR was only free in it's last month before shut down and the only advertising I saw for that was on this site. I emailed in for a free key and played the whole time, had a lot of fun. Not a lot of people where going to play a game for its last month,  but I think with a decent F2p model this game could still do well. 

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    I think the train for all those games have left. Tabula Rasa could possibly be salvaged if they sold the license to a F2P company (like PWE) though. Games like AC2 are so old that they would need too much money to polish up again, you would have to replace the entire engine with LOTROs to make it work.

    I rather have Turbine start working on AC3 instead, it is time for that now.

    AA is really not something I believe in, the trinity combat system does not work in a car game. The idea of the game is great otherwise but a car MMO really need a unique combat mechanic.

  • NiurNiur Member UncommonPosts: 47
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan
    Originally posted by Navac
    Originally posted by Jakard

    Three words:

    Asheron's Call 2

    First MMO I ever played, I was like 9 or 10 at the time.  the 3 factions and having guild battles was awesome.

    While I have good memories of AC2's gameplay (my reap zerker was really fun to play), I also remember how utterly linear the game was. Sorry, I forgot my rose colored nostalgia goggles today ;-)

    AC2 was my first MMO also, I spent so much time on that game and loved it at the time, but yeah looking back it was linear. In the end I used to log on, run the weekly Boots/IF/Eidlon and then be stood around at Cragstone Nexus for the rest of the week with nothing much to do :) PvP in Pali could be fun, but it required everyone to participate and that rarely happened and we had a few good server runs at Deimos...I'd give it a go if it was free. I'd quit playing by the time Legions came out, so it'd be nice to see what they did there for nostalgias sake

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Net-7 is a fun site for EnB fans.

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  • maplestonemaplestone Member UncommonPosts: 3,099

    I'm curious what hapens to all the code and art assets for these games.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by maplestone

    I'm curious what hapens to all the code and art assets for these games.

    Some get reused in other games, some get sold off. I don't remember whether it was rumor or reality, but there was talk about Tabula rasa using the Auto Assault code at one time.

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  • KothosesKothoses Member UncommonPosts: 931
    Originally posted by Piiritus
    More games should die and free up good IPs. Lotro for starters. Keeping failed MMOs alive with f2p lead devs to illusions that they've actually done a good job. MMOs die for reason - they are either garbage or they die because of old age. People always find good games because quality is the best publicity.

    How exactly is Lotro a failed MMO.

     

    Prior to its F2P conversion it was regarded as the second most populous western sub based MMO around.  By all accounts its doing very well for its self and has a steady churn of playerbase.

     

    Oh.. by "failed" and "dead" you mean you did not like it, or "It did not kill wow"... now I understand....

  • PrenhoPrenho Member Posts: 298

    I'd like to see NCSoft bringing Lineage 1 back as F2P. L1 is still P2P in east and also it has almost 1 million subscribers, it's still the second most profitable MMO from NC, behind Aion(also P2P in east), Blade& Soul comes in third nowadays. But Lineage 1 died in west, I'd like to play the best sandbox OWPVP MMO ever made once again before Lineage Eternal, its sequel, releases.

  • gravesworngravesworn Member Posts: 324
    I would rather companies create new games. There is so much potential out there for games but everything seems stale. I am not looking for a wow killer. Just one that i enjoy as much as i did in vanilla wow and the first month of darkfall.
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by gravesworn
    I would rather companies create new games. There is so much potential out there for games but everything seems stale. I am not looking for a wow killer. Just one that i enjoy as much as i did in vanilla wow and the first month of darkfall.

    If I could find a fantasy PVP game that can continually entertain me as much as the first month of Darkfall did, I'd be a very happy camper.

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  • gravesworngravesworn Member Posts: 324
    Hopefully darkfall 2.0 will bring that thrill back, but who knows when that will be out.
  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607
    Originally posted by GTwander

    It never made any sense to me that games like EnB, Tabula Rasa and Auto Assault had the floor yanked out from under them, when tons of games that can't maintain high paid subs are making the F2P switch. It's not like games were facing an issue with player retention that long ago, but they finally got wise to things fairly recently.

    I'm not sure what happened to the Gods and Heroes 'rebirth', but I think it's about damned time to bring some dead oldies back... namely Auto Assault (until Twisted Metal gets SOE'd).

    EnB.... If it came back with no EA affiliation I would play it.

  • gravesworngravesworn Member Posts: 324
    Originally posted by Xzen

    Originally posted by GTwander
    It never made any sense to me that games like EnB, Tabula Rasa and Auto Assault had the floor yanked out from under them, when tons of games that can't maintain high paid subs are making the F2P switch. It's not like games were facing an issue with player retention that long ago, but they finally got wise to things fairly recently. I'm not sure what happened to the Gods and Heroes 'rebirth', but I think it's about damned time to bring some dead oldies back... namely Auto Assault (until Twisted Metal gets SOE'd).

    EnB.... If it came back with no EA affiliation I would play it.

     

    EA is a cancer to gaming.
  • ElphyiElphyi Member Posts: 14
    Originally posted by Piiritus
    More games should die and free up good IPs. Lotro for starters. Keeping failed MMOs alive with f2p lead devs to illusions that they've actually done a good job. MMOs die for reason - they are either garbage or they die because of old age. People always find good games because quality is the best publicity.

     

     

    Well usually i let ppl have there own opion.   But Lotro isnt a dead game far from it.  there game isnt that bad and they still have a player base.  So Lotro is far from a dead game. if you find it a fail thats your opinion and all rights to you. but quite a few people find it to be a good game and they have all the rights to that opinion also.

  • fenistilfenistil Member Posts: 3,005

    @OP ;  

     

    Not really not. I don't think that as good idea tbh. 

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