Ok, so this thread actually explains a lot about dodging attacks and such. But what about the mesmer Greatsword skill 1 ability that is a lightning bolt shot instantly and directly at you?
Also, for those that did pvp in the beta, since pvp becoems one big running around fest, did aoe's end up becoming king?
What pvp? arena or wvw? I felt aoe to be more usefull in arena since you can defend points more effectively with aoe. In wvw aoe can be effective whille attacking or defending a keep but in skirmishes or zerg battles picking off enemies one by one seems way more effective.
Ok I see. I might be un-informed, but if 2 ranged people are fighting each other, and both use spells/abilities that can be cast while moving, and both are moving to avoid the other's attacks, how will anyone ever die?
PS: I suppose it will involve the terrain, setting traps, using targetting aoe, etc.
I can only see something similar to your scenario with two REALLY good players. Remember that most of the playyer base is not really that good and will be able to get out of the reach of harms way.
It isn't unreasonable. However, having played it and knowing this isn't true, as most who've tried would also see
IMO. The spreading of misinformation as fact can be even more hurtful to the uninitiated to the game.
Which is why posters here are trying to debunk what we perceive as inaccuracies by these misinformed people.
The effect is being called a fanboy simply by providing a more positive view of said game. Do you realize the pages upon pages of posts here on GW2, do you really think someone with less than 30 minutes/day can scan and read all of it just to happen and fall on pertinent information?
It also doesn't help when posters here know of certain poster's views and agendas regarding certain games that, in wishing to help those new viewers, try to rectify the facts so the thread isn't simply taken for granted?
Ok, so this thread actually explains a lot about dodging attacks and such. But what about the mesmer Greatsword skill 1 ability that is a lightning bolt shot instantly and directly at you?
Also, for those that did pvp in the beta, since pvp becoems one big running around fest, did aoe's end up becoming king?
What pvp? arena or wvw? I felt aoe to be more usefull in arena since you can defend points more effectively with aoe. In wvw aoe can be effective whille attacking or defending a keep but in skirmishes or zerg battles picking off enemies one by one seems way more effective.
Ok I see. I might be un-informed, but if 2 ranged people are fighting each other, and both use spells/abilities that can be cast while moving, and both are moving to avoid the other's attacks, how will anyone ever die?
PS: I suppose it will involve the terrain, setting traps, using targetting aoe, etc.
Player skill. (Correct use of CC, correct use of skills, which means not on cooldown but when it makes sense, etc.)
What makes a game action based is more about hit boxes then no targetting. GW2 doesn't use hit boxes which is why sometimes hits that should hit dont register and why swings that miss do register.
GW2 does use hit boxes.
Where the shit did you get the idea that it didn't?
GW2 uses one hitbox for all playable races. I don't know if the hitboxes in Tera are all the same size too, but afaik they only have one for each model too. That's why Tera has an illusion of aimed ranged combat. It doesn't matter where you hit your target.
The guy was just straight wrong in an embarrassingly obvious way to those that have actually played. He literally said that GW2 doesn't use hit boxes. Obviously this is false if you've played even 1 second of melee.
Why can't people just play them both and decide which combat they find to be more fun? Neither is "right' or "wrong", they're different and will appeal to different folks.
Not having played gw2 yet, I can't really comment on it. Recently playing Tera I can say that it's the most fun I've had in combat just about ever. It makes just grinding mobs and trying different abilities really fun.
It's actually partially non-tab based. Yes, you can tab target and you will attack in the direction of the mob/person you have targetted but:
- many attacks have arc and can be done without targetting anyone, which means you can run into group and spam your wide attack to hit several people at once without targetting any of them.
- ranged attack have defined range and it won't autorun you into range, you can also shoot them without targetting anyone and still hit people
- you can dodge away from both physical attacks as well as projectiles
- there is also a lot of ground targetted attacks even for melee characters that you will have to aim to hit somoene.
What pvp? arena or wvw? I felt aoe to be more usefull in arena since you can defend points more effectively with aoe. In wvw aoe can be effective whille attacking or defending a keep but in skirmishes or zerg battles picking off enemies one by one seems way more effective.
Ok I see. I might be un-informed, but if 2 ranged people are fighting each other, and both use spells/abilities that can be cast while moving, and both are moving to avoid the other's attacks, how will anyone ever die?
PS: I suppose it will involve the terrain, setting traps, using targetting aoe, etc.
Player skill. (Correct use of CC, correct use of skills, which means not on cooldown but when it makes sense, etc.)
Ah ok. And thanks Kuppa for your reply, and all the rest. (this thread moves so quickly). Now I'm curious as to how well all the different classes and weapon combo's mesh with all the other classes/weapon combo's.
No, GW2 is not a Tab-Targeting game in the sense of most MMO's
No, GW2 is not an Aim-based system, at least not entirely. Some aiming is nessecary, but the mechanics support target lock.
It looks like melee is not in doubt. That is a style that needs next to zero Tab-Targeting. You hit what your aiming at. It needs to be said that you CAN use Tab-Targeting as well and it will auto-face you if you do, so this is a more effective method in general.
With ranged combat, its a little more complicated.
Lets say I'm a Ranger. If i hit the 1 key I fire an arrow, wether or not I have an enemy targeted. If he is targeted, and in range, then he will be hit unless
1) He uses an ability to dodge or absorb the hit or
2) Someone or something obstructs the shot.
If no one is targeted, it will move in a straight line until hitting something. An enemy will take damage if hit. So while its possible to play ranged without tab targeting, because of the small hitboxes and the increased accuracy while tab targeted, it is not very effective.
TL;DR - To say that tab-targeting is not a major part of combat is foolish. To say that it is a tab targeting game is foolish. It is a hybrid style in every sense of the word. You are encouraged to target, but keep your opions open and realize you attacks are not confinded to the targeted indiviual.
It's actually partially non-tab based. Yes, you can tab target and you will attack in the direction of the mob/person you have targetted but:
- many attacks have arc and can be done without targetting anyone, which means you can run into group and spam your wide attack to hit several people at once without targetting any of them.
- ranged attack have defined range and it won't autorun you into range, you can also shoot them without targetting anyone and still hit people
- you can dodge away from both physical attacks as well as projectiles
- there is also a lot of ground targetted attacks even for melee characters that you will have to aim to hit somoene.
swtor have the same system is not just gw2.
There is one major difference. (besides the obvious ones you missed by not reading the post you quoted)
Too much missinformation in here. You can have a target? yes. You can tab a target? Is an option, you can do it. Do you auto face your target? absolutely not.
That's all, you don't auto-face ur oponent .yYu actually have to follow the action wich is pretty fast since melees have skills to cut distance fast and even have skill that place them in ur back. You actually need skills, tab is a pve thing. Pointless disscussion ever.
Just play the game when you have the chance and find it for yourselves.
Too much missinformation in here. You can have a target? yes. You can tab a target? Is an option, you can do it. Do you auto face your target? absolutely not.
That's all, you don't auto-face ur oponent .yYu actually have to follow the action wich is pretty fast since melees have skills to cut distance fast and even have skill that place them in ur back. You actually need skills, tab is a pve thing. Pointless disscussion ever.
Just play the game when you have the chance and find it for yourselves.
There is an option to autoface on casting a skill if you are not holding the right mouse button.
Not in the way that he is asking. You can dodge roll at the right time to become invincible to avoid any attack. I don't think that was anywhere near what he was asking though.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
It isn't unreasonable. However, having played it and knowing this isn't true, as most who've tried would also see
IMO. The spreading of misinformation as fact can be even more hurtful to the uninitiated to the game.
Which is why posters here are trying to debunk what we perceive as inaccuracies by these misinformed people.
The effect is being called a fanboy simply by providing a more positive view of said game. Do you realize the pages upon pages of posts here on GW2, do you really think someone with less than 30 minutes/day can scan and read all of it just to happen and fall on pertinent information?
It also doesn't help when posters here know of certain poster's views and agendas regarding certain games that, in wishing to help those new viewers, try to rectify the facts so the thread isn't simply taken for granted?
I think it is great that people try to give their views to broaden the picture of different aspects, no matter if it is correcting inaccuracies or just giving a different perspective. One reason for why I think it is important, is because of the reason you mention: people with little time to spend reading, will not be able to scan and read all information, so we have to make sure that what they read contains good information if they choose to read large parts of that particular thread.
The opening post would have been better if it contained sources for the rumors though. Other than that, the title is good and the posts that followed reasoned how it was more than regular tab-targetting and it touched the dodge mechanics as well.
Not in the way that he is asking. You can dodge roll at the right time to become invincible to avoid any attack. I don't think that was anywhere near what he was asking though.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
You can do that in WoW. In this game, the skills still go off, but in any game ever, keeping out of range is a perfectly normal way to reduce damage taken.
You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering.
Not in the way that he is asking. You can dodge roll at the right time to become invincible to avoid any attack. I don't think that was anywhere near what he was asking though.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
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You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering.
That's what I'm saying... yes you can. You can sidestep a single arrow while you are in range, without dodge-rolling. I did it many times. Be moving one way, see it fire and quickly change direction to the other way. Arrow misses. You really can do this, and I was getting pretty good at it if I do say so myself.
Not in the way that he is asking. You can dodge roll at the right time to become invincible to avoid any attack. I don't think that was anywhere near what he was asking though.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
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You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering.
That's what I'm saying... yes you can. You can sidestep a single arrow while you are in range, without dodge-rolling. I did it many times. Be moving one way, see it fire and quickly change direction to the other way. Arrow misses. You really can do this, and I was getting pretty good at it if I do say so myself.
That's BS.
You might've been fooled by an attacker that was shooting your from out of range and you saw the arrow "miss" even though it didn't hit due to the player not having range to hit you. It could've also been an AoE arrow that "missed" but it wasn't even targeted at you, it was targeted at the ground.
If you actually could walk out of projectiles it would be impossible to kill anyone with a ranged weapon.
Not in the way that he is asking. You can dodge roll at the right time to become invincible to avoid any attack. I don't think that was anywhere near what he was asking though.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
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You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering.
That's what I'm saying... yes you can. You can sidestep a single arrow while you are in range, without dodge-rolling. I did it many times. Be moving one way, see it fire and quickly change direction to the other way. Arrow misses. You really can do this, and I was getting pretty good at it if I do say so myself.
That's BS.
You might've been fooled by an attacker that was shooting your from out of range and you saw the arrow "miss" even though it didn't hit due to the player not having range to hit you. It could've also been an AoE arrow that "missed" but it wasn't even targeted at you, it was targeted at the ground.
If you actually could walk out of projectiles it would be impossible to kill anyone with a ranged weapon.
No, it isn't BS at all. It also isn't impossible for ranged to kill you when you consider all the possibilities varous weapon swaps, pet swaps, etc. offer. You can change direction and avoid an arrow if you're fast enough. The arrow won't track you, they don't do that. This is fact, a direct observation. If I knew I had to publish these findings in a peer-reviewed journal I would have... I'm actually a little surprised others aren't aware of this.
Originally posted by GoldenArrow Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Volkon You can do that too.
Not in the way that he is asking. You can dodge roll at the right time to become invincible to avoid any attack. I don't think that was anywhere near what he was asking though. Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do. ... You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering. That's what I'm saying... yes you can. You can sidestep a single arrow while you are in range, without dodge-rolling. I did it many times. Be moving one way, see it fire and quickly change direction to the other way. Arrow misses. You really can do this, and I was getting pretty good at it if I do say so myself. That's BS. You might've been fooled by an attacker that was shooting your from out of range and you saw the arrow "miss" even though it didn't hit due to the player not having range to hit you. It could've also been an AoE arrow that "missed" but it wasn't even targeted at you, it was targeted at the ground. If you actually could walk out of projectiles it would be impossible to kill anyone with a ranged weapon.
You can dodge projectiles and attacks by moving out of the way, but success/failure depends on the distance between you and the attacker.
Not in the way that he is asking. You can dodge roll at the right time to become invincible to avoid any attack. I don't think that was anywhere near what he was asking though.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
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You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering.
That's what I'm saying... yes you can. You can sidestep a single arrow while you are in range, without dodge-rolling. I did it many times. Be moving one way, see it fire and quickly change direction to the other way. Arrow misses. You really can do this, and I was getting pretty good at it if I do say so myself.
That's BS.
You might've been fooled by an attacker that was shooting your from out of range and you saw the arrow "miss" even though it didn't hit due to the player not having range to hit you. It could've also been an AoE arrow that "missed" but it wasn't even targeted at you, it was targeted at the ground.
If you actually could walk out of projectiles it would be impossible to kill anyone with a ranged weapon.
You can dodge projectiles and attacks by moving out of the way, but success/failure depends on the distance between you and the attacker.
And of course projectile speed, which all tie into flight time. Thank you Alot.
Not in the way that he is asking. You can dodge roll at the right time to become invincible to avoid any attack. I don't think that was anywhere near what he was asking though.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
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You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering.
That's what I'm saying... yes you can. You can sidestep a single arrow while you are in range, without dodge-rolling. I did it many times. Be moving one way, see it fire and quickly change direction to the other way. Arrow misses. You really can do this, and I was getting pretty good at it if I do say so myself.
That's BS.
You might've been fooled by an attacker that was shooting your from out of range and you saw the arrow "miss" even though it didn't hit due to the player not having range to hit you. It could've also been an AoE arrow that "missed" but it wasn't even targeted at you, it was targeted at the ground.
If you actually could walk out of projectiles it would be impossible to kill anyone with a ranged weapon.
No, it isn't BS at all. It also isn't impossible for ranged to kill you when you consider all the possibilities varous weapon swaps, pet swaps, etc. offer. You can change direction and avoid an arrow if you're fast enough. The arrow won't track you, they don't do that. This is fact, a direct observation. If I knew I had to publish these findings in a peer-reviewed journal I would have... I'm actually a little surprised others aren't aware of this.
I love the game, but what you are describing is false.
You can avoid AoE. You can not avoid single target attacks that are targeted to you and in range without dodge roll or other specific cooldown abilities.
No, it isn't BS at all. It also isn't impossible for ranged to kill you when you consider all the possibilities varous weapon swaps, pet swaps, etc. offer. You can change direction and avoid an arrow if you're fast enough. The arrow won't track you, they don't do that. This is fact, a direct observation. If I knew I had to publish these findings in a peer-reviewed journal I would have... I'm actually a little surprised others aren't aware of this.
I love the game, but what you are describing is false.
You can avoid AoE. You can not avoid single target attacks that are targeted to you and in range without dodge roll or other specific cooldown abilities.
Why would I even bother to lie about this? I've done it, numerous times. I've used it to my benefit actually. A simple side-step such that an arrow misses you and hits the dolyak behind you can change a battle in most interesting ways. I'm being flat-out serious. You need to have range, the projectile has to have notable flight time (such as an arrow) and you have to be paying attention, but yes, you can change direction ("E" to "Q" or visa versa for me) and avoid the arrow. It comes in handy vs. the Sons of Svanir, btw.
No, it isn't BS at all. It also isn't impossible for ranged to kill you when you consider all the possibilities varous weapon swaps, pet swaps, etc. offer. You can change direction and avoid an arrow if you're fast enough. The arrow won't track you, they don't do that. This is fact, a direct observation. If I knew I had to publish these findings in a peer-reviewed journal I would have... I'm actually a little surprised others aren't aware of this.
I love the game, but what you are describing is false.
You can avoid AoE. You can not avoid single target attacks that are targeted to you and in range without dodge roll or other specific cooldown abilities.
Why would I even bother to lie about this? I've done it, numerous times. I've used it to my benefit actually. A simple side-step such that an arrow misses you and hits the dolyak behind you can change a battle in most interesting ways. I'm being flat-out serious. You need to have range, the projectile has to have notable flight time (such as an arrow) and you have to be paying attention, but yes, you can change direction ("E" to "Q" or visa versa for me) and avoid the arrow. It comes in handy vs. the Sons of Svanir, btw.
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I can only see something similar to your scenario with two REALLY good players. Remember that most of the playyer base is not really that good and will be able to get out of the reach of harms way.
It isn't unreasonable. However, having played it and knowing this isn't true, as most who've tried would also see
IMO. The spreading of misinformation as fact can be even more hurtful to the uninitiated to the game.
Which is why posters here are trying to debunk what we perceive as inaccuracies by these misinformed people.
The effect is being called a fanboy simply by providing a more positive view of said game. Do you realize the pages upon pages of posts here on GW2, do you really think someone with less than 30 minutes/day can scan and read all of it just to happen and fall on pertinent information?
It also doesn't help when posters here know of certain poster's views and agendas regarding certain games that, in wishing to help those new viewers, try to rectify the facts so the thread isn't simply taken for granted?
Player skill. (Correct use of CC, correct use of skills, which means not on cooldown but when it makes sense, etc.)
The guy was just straight wrong in an embarrassingly obvious way to those that have actually played. He literally said that GW2 doesn't use hit boxes. Obviously this is false if you've played even 1 second of melee.
Why can't people just play them both and decide which combat they find to be more fun? Neither is "right' or "wrong", they're different and will appeal to different folks.
Not having played gw2 yet, I can't really comment on it. Recently playing Tera I can say that it's the most fun I've had in combat just about ever. It makes just grinding mobs and trying different abilities really fun.
swtor have the same system is not just gw2.
Ah ok. And thanks Kuppa for your reply, and all the rest. (this thread moves so quickly). Now I'm curious as to how well all the different classes and weapon combo's mesh with all the other classes/weapon combo's.
Taru-Gallante-Blood elf-Elysean-Kelari-Crime Fighting-Imperial Agent
What's the big deal?
It's tab-targetting with some evasion mechanics. Like it hasn't been done before.
Its been done to death so far but......
No, GW2 is not a Tab-Targeting game in the sense of most MMO's
No, GW2 is not an Aim-based system, at least not entirely. Some aiming is nessecary, but the mechanics support target lock.
It looks like melee is not in doubt. That is a style that needs next to zero Tab-Targeting. You hit what your aiming at. It needs to be said that you CAN use Tab-Targeting as well and it will auto-face you if you do, so this is a more effective method in general.
With ranged combat, its a little more complicated.
Lets say I'm a Ranger. If i hit the 1 key I fire an arrow, wether or not I have an enemy targeted. If he is targeted, and in range, then he will be hit unless
1) He uses an ability to dodge or absorb the hit or
2) Someone or something obstructs the shot.
If no one is targeted, it will move in a straight line until hitting something. An enemy will take damage if hit. So while its possible to play ranged without tab targeting, because of the small hitboxes and the increased accuracy while tab targeted, it is not very effective.
TL;DR - To say that tab-targeting is not a major part of combat is foolish. To say that it is a tab targeting game is foolish. It is a hybrid style in every sense of the word. You are encouraged to target, but keep your opions open and realize you attacks are not confinded to the targeted indiviual.
There is one major difference. (besides the obvious ones you missed by not reading the post you quoted)
SWTOR PvP sucks giant balls.
Too much missinformation in here. You can have a target? yes. You can tab a target? Is an option, you can do it. Do you auto face your target? absolutely not.
That's all, you don't auto-face ur oponent .yYu actually have to follow the action wich is pretty fast since melees have skills to cut distance fast and even have skill that place them in ur back. You actually need skills, tab is a pve thing. Pointless disscussion ever.
Just play the game when you have the chance and find it for yourselves.
There is an option to autoface on casting a skill if you are not holding the right mouse button.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
Oderint, dum metuant.
I think it is great that people try to give their views to broaden the picture of different aspects, no matter if it is correcting inaccuracies or just giving a different perspective. One reason for why I think it is important, is because of the reason you mention: people with little time to spend reading, will not be able to scan and read all information, so we have to make sure that what they read contains good information if they choose to read large parts of that particular thread.
The opening post would have been better if it contained sources for the rumors though. Other than that, the title is good and the posts that followed reasoned how it was more than regular tab-targetting and it touched the dodge mechanics as well.
You can do that in WoW. In this game, the skills still go off, but in any game ever, keeping out of range is a perfectly normal way to reduce damage taken.
You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering.
That's what I'm saying... yes you can. You can sidestep a single arrow while you are in range, without dodge-rolling. I did it many times. Be moving one way, see it fire and quickly change direction to the other way. Arrow misses. You really can do this, and I was getting pretty good at it if I do say so myself.
Oderint, dum metuant.
That's BS.
You might've been fooled by an attacker that was shooting your from out of range and you saw the arrow "miss" even though it didn't hit due to the player not having range to hit you. It could've also been an AoE arrow that "missed" but it wasn't even targeted at you, it was targeted at the ground.
If you actually could walk out of projectiles it would be impossible to kill anyone with a ranged weapon.
No, it isn't BS at all. It also isn't impossible for ranged to kill you when you consider all the possibilities varous weapon swaps, pet swaps, etc. offer. You can change direction and avoid an arrow if you're fast enough. The arrow won't track you, they don't do that. This is fact, a direct observation. If I knew I had to publish these findings in a peer-reviewed journal I would have... I'm actually a little surprised others aren't aware of this.
Oderint, dum metuant.
Yeah, I'm not talking about dodge-rolling. I avoided many arrows simply by changing direction after they were fired. If you're keeping a good distance (as I was on my mesmer) it's not terribly hard to do.
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You can not sidestep a single target arrow if it is cast while you are in range (without dodge rolling). That was what he was wondering.
That's what I'm saying... yes you can. You can sidestep a single arrow while you are in range, without dodge-rolling. I did it many times. Be moving one way, see it fire and quickly change direction to the other way. Arrow misses. You really can do this, and I was getting pretty good at it if I do say so myself.
That's BS.
You might've been fooled by an attacker that was shooting your from out of range and you saw the arrow "miss" even though it didn't hit due to the player not having range to hit you. It could've also been an AoE arrow that "missed" but it wasn't even targeted at you, it was targeted at the ground.
If you actually could walk out of projectiles it would be impossible to kill anyone with a ranged weapon.
You can dodge projectiles and attacks by moving out of the way, but success/failure depends on the distance between you and the attacker.
And of course projectile speed, which all tie into flight time. Thank you Alot.
Oderint, dum metuant.
I love the game, but what you are describing is false.
You can avoid AoE. You can not avoid single target attacks that are targeted to you and in range without dodge roll or other specific cooldown abilities.
Wait, before we go on, you need to name specific abilities.
Why would I even bother to lie about this? I've done it, numerous times. I've used it to my benefit actually. A simple side-step such that an arrow misses you and hits the dolyak behind you can change a battle in most interesting ways. I'm being flat-out serious. You need to have range, the projectile has to have notable flight time (such as an arrow) and you have to be paying attention, but yes, you can change direction ("E" to "Q" or visa versa for me) and avoid the arrow. It comes in handy vs. the Sons of Svanir, btw.
Oderint, dum metuant.
Sounds like PvE.
They were coming at me, I wasn't using them so can't name them directly. I assume most were the standard "1" attack based on frequency however.
Oderint, dum metuant.