Heh. people do not seem to remember how they did WOW.
They worked on it for years with hardly a peep about it. They use a tight friends/family crowd to do the vast majority of their beta's on games.
Time they start the machine to market it, the game will be 99% done and polished. What Bliz calls beta..takes most other companies a year after release to get to.
I think they know that the overhype can kill or at least seriously wound any product, no matter how good it objectivley is.
The more time people have to drool over the little info released and to create their own versions of how the game is going to be, the more potential for everyone to be disappointed in the final product.
And announcing it now won't hurt WoW, people aren't going to unsubscribe this instant because Blizzard has a new MMO coming out in two years.
Originally posted by Kyleran They have no incentive to speak much about Titan until WOW numbers really trail off. We just might be at that day, we will have to see how well MOP does.
I agree. Why potentially hurt MoP sales by introducing Titan early. Blizzard does not need years to build hype, the same day it is offically announced and information is released, it will become the most hyped MMO ever, putting both GW2 and SWTOR to shame.
Im sorry sir, but it sounds like your upset that GW2 and SWTOR does that what WOW doesnt do. Althought WOW still has the most subs, they arent that active anymore. Why would TITAN do anything better? They would have to first get rid of the questing they have in WOW, to be able to get anywhere close to the new mmos. All people can do is, hope that blizzard finally will listen to its fanbase.
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Upset? No. But you're lying to yourself if you don't think Titan will be the most hyped MMO ever. Sure WoW is on a downward slope, well at least until MoP, but that is an 8 year old game. If D3 can sell ten million copies, I'm sure Titan will pre-sell more than GW2 and SWTOR have sold combined to this date.
Also, has it been confirmed that Pandas will be in Titan?
Well why did D3 'sell' so many copies? Well first off, they gave 6 million away. I got mine for free with a sub to a magazine. Others got it, when they took a year sub on WOW. So, actually they cheated the system to make many fony sales. Who thinks that 10 million play d3 is crazy. Only a fraction of those still actually play d3 anymore. Including me. I checked it out, played it and havent been online for 2 months or so. So, see for yourself.
And about those saying I only played a few mmo's. Your wrong. I played many mmo's and have been playing computer games since the atari 2600 in 1979. So.....
Amazed we havent heard more intel about this new MMO of theirs. Surely not because of MoP? I mean if they said for example that Titan would be coming out in late 2013 or 2014 and would be x y and z it would not have any impact on WoW sales.
Really surprised we haven't heard anything recently about this MMO in development. I know Blizzard is secretive and games come out when ready, etc. but sheesh....
they are still waiting for some more games to come out with different ideas so they can rip them off and try to make them better. It worked great for them in WoW why not Titan?
It's funny because it's probably accurate. I'd bag them for it if it didn't work so well.
Well why did D3 'sell' so many copies? Well first off, they gave 6 million away. I got mine for free with a sub to a magazine. Others got it, when they took a year sub on WOW. So, actually they cheated the system to make many fony sales. Who thinks that 10 million play d3 is crazy. Only a fraction of those still actually play d3 anymore. Including me. I checked it out, played it and havent been online for 2 months or so. So, see for yourself.
And about those saying I only played a few mmo's. Your wrong. I played many mmo's and have been playing computer games since the atari 2600 in 1979. So.....
Single-player games or games without monthly fee have served their purpose once they have been purchased. What you fail to understand that Blizzard just sold you a Diablo 3 virtual copy + 12 months of free wow game time for 100 bucks. Since World of Warcraft is in decline, now they got more WoW users (potentially increasing the purchases of Mists of Pandarai, since now 6 million people have 12 months of WoW game time). They didn't lose anything, they only gained increased sales in a declning game, a new game and potentially newly released explansion set. Do you honestly believe Blizzard, business wise cares if people play Diablo 3 for 3 months and quit? All they need to do is to release the next expansion and at least half of those people will return by purchasing the expansion set for D3.
Originally posted by Dragonantis I have doubts that its even real, looks more like a scheme to keep players interested in Blizzard even after they stop playing WoW.
I'm fairly sure that it is real, my money would be on them trying to decide several key strategies, and probably waiting to see how the RMAH works out for them on Diablo 3 and whether they can implement something similar into a real MMO.
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Also 3 months Is pushing it, I doubt most diablo 3 players managed 3 weeks.
Considering you can log on with a character in any level range, on any difficulty, at any hour and get a multiplayer game within seconds... yeah, I doubt anyone really plays Diablo 3. >.>
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Not sure how no one has leaked anything about this game. We had stealth bomber/fighter leaks faster than this. So how is that no one has been able to sneak anything out ... no disgruntled employees . where are you at?
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Originally posted by dustyhayes Probably they are reconsidering their strategy after the not so desirable reception with D3 & hype is good too
Yeah, 7+ million sold and a 88 aggregate score is not something to aspire too. Oh, you mean user reviews? Yeah, doesn't really affect the bottom line, does it.
Wow, that would blow my mind, the only guys too do something different from WoW, is the people that made it. I wouldn't know what to say lol
Blizzard never released anything even partially sandboxy and never released anything that is not mainstream - so I can even bet some money that it won't be sandbox.
Of course they may put some few very simple sanboxy-similar features maybe but that's max.
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I suppose this is true if your "whole mmo world" is 2 games you've experienced. I... don't even want to discuss this here. Nevermind.
the Wired interview about Titan was 4 years ago
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/10/qa-blizzard-ceo/
heres what happened with WOW:
1999: development started
2001: Blizzard announced WOW
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ects-2001-world-of-warcraft-announced-2810134
2002:
E3 Preview of WOW
http://www.ign.com/articles/2002/05/22/e3-2002-world-of-warcraft
Bill Roper was talking about WOW loosely in 2002 stating the game wont be released before 2004
http://money.cnn.com/2002/07/17/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm
2003:
E3 Hands on w WOW
http://www.ign.com/articles/2003/05/13/e3-2003-world-of-warcraft-hands-on
E3 Gameplay Trailer; Friends and family alpha started
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXwVZi4sctY
2004: closed / public beta
EQ2 fan sites
Because a polished sandbox takes time
/wink
I think they know that the overhype can kill or at least seriously wound any product, no matter how good it objectivley is.
The more time people have to drool over the little info released and to create their own versions of how the game is going to be, the more potential for everyone to be disappointed in the final product.
And announcing it now won't hurt WoW, people aren't going to unsubscribe this instant because Blizzard has a new MMO coming out in two years.
Upset? No. But you're lying to yourself if you don't think Titan will be the most hyped MMO ever. Sure WoW is on a downward slope, well at least until MoP, but that is an 8 year old game. If D3 can sell ten million copies, I'm sure Titan will pre-sell more than GW2 and SWTOR have sold combined to this date.
Also, has it been confirmed that Pandas will be in Titan?
im no longer a blizzard fan but i agree
EQ2 fan sites
Well why did D3 'sell' so many copies? Well first off, they gave 6 million away. I got mine for free with a sub to a magazine. Others got it, when they took a year sub on WOW. So, actually they cheated the system to make many fony sales. Who thinks that 10 million play d3 is crazy. Only a fraction of those still actually play d3 anymore. Including me. I checked it out, played it and havent been online for 2 months or so. So, see for yourself.
And about those saying I only played a few mmo's. Your wrong. I played many mmo's and have been playing computer games since the atari 2600 in 1979. So.....
It's funny because it's probably accurate. I'd bag them for it if it didn't work so well.
It got canceled a couple of months ago.
They just dont have the heart to tell us.
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It isn't close enough to being ready.
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Wow, that would blow my mind, the only guys too do something different from WoW, is the people that made it. I wouldn't know what to say lol
Single-player games or games without monthly fee have served their purpose once they have been purchased. What you fail to understand that Blizzard just sold you a Diablo 3 virtual copy + 12 months of free wow game time for 100 bucks. Since World of Warcraft is in decline, now they got more WoW users (potentially increasing the purchases of Mists of Pandarai, since now 6 million people have 12 months of WoW game time). They didn't lose anything, they only gained increased sales in a declning game, a new game and potentially newly released explansion set. Do you honestly believe Blizzard, business wise cares if people play Diablo 3 for 3 months and quit? All they need to do is to release the next expansion and at least half of those people will return by purchasing the expansion set for D3.
Also 3 months Is pushing it, I doubt most diablo 3 players managed 3 weeks.
Because its fake, a scheme to keep players interested in their company and their games.
I'm fairly sure that it is real, my money would be on them trying to decide several key strategies, and probably waiting to see how the RMAH works out for them on Diablo 3 and whether they can implement something similar into a real MMO.
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Considering you can log on with a character in any level range, on any difficulty, at any hour and get a multiplayer game within seconds... yeah, I doubt anyone really plays Diablo 3. >.>
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titan is planned for the end of 2014, so it will most likely be releaed somewhere in 2015.
so, why should we hear about it now?
so we can hype it till it reaches a status that can't be reached?
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Yeah, 7+ million sold and a 88 aggregate score is not something to aspire too. Oh, you mean user reviews? Yeah, doesn't really affect the bottom line, does it.
Lol look at swtor never mind d3.
Fact is blizzard pissed a lot of people off with d3.
Which probably explains why mop hasn't quite sold as well as they hoped.
And why they arent going into hype mode over Titan, they need to let the backlash for down.
Blizzard never released anything even partially sandboxy and never released anything that is not mainstream - so I can even bet some money that it won't be sandbox.
Of course they may put some few very simple sanboxy-similar features maybe but that's max.
They definately won't release sandbox.
yea, right, hard not to piss off anyone when the whole world is waiting for your game.
pure statistics, but i guess that's something most in here will never understand.
next statistic: torchlight 2 selling for 20 bucks. 50k players on steam, we do the math, d3 won ^^
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