GAAAAAAAAAAAWD DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG, Will y'all people ever be happy with an MMO? Probably not, every single time I check this site the title of a thread is bashing a game or unsatisfied about the game in general. No MMO will capture your heart like the first on you played and spent countless hours on, I know MMO companies like to hear comments how to improve but daaaaaaaaaamn y'all take it too far and just try to destroy the MMO community. Go play a console game that has the same design as 100's of other console games, look at all the RPG games..... THEY ARE ALL THE SAME but a little different. Sick of all Y'alls "opinions", if y'all dont like a game just don't play it and don't post a crappy thread about how you didn't enjoy it. What game besides rift has had a successful launch,probably cause not many were interested in it. WoW didn't have a good launch, but look it's the most successful MMO granted cause they target the teenagers now. But all I'm just saying is stop with the negativety of an MMO cause you don't like it, Sure GW2 isn't as great as people praised it to be, but WoW didn't become the titan it is over a week, it took years for them to fix bugs that was annoying. If no MMO is better than the one you're playing now just stop trying others and keep playing it and quit posting your negative thread. It's better to have 5 good MMOs than 1 so we can all enjoy our "cup of tea".
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If WoW was released today even in its' entirety it would be f2p in 3 months.
Why is it still such a big deal?
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That's what makes us unique, we don't take crap.. Why should we? Would you rather us be like mainstream music customers, where millions don't know what the term "critical" means and buy the same song every week?
The only reason people tend to feel self entitled is because they are aware of how great MMOs can be.
As for the OP - that is the nature of forums. Especially when there's something bad to talk about. I'm sure you are refering to the whole GW2 thing... Would you rather people blindly posted positive threads, despite all the issues, just so you don't feel bad?
Being critical is a very important aspect of life, why should we roll over and take what we're given?
People, stop tearing your hair out. It's anti-marketing, probably from brand x, and it happens at every launch. They just want you fools to post in their thread so their inflamatory title scrolls up and it's all filled up with those titles to influence people like you.
"It's a wow clone."
"It's too different."
"it's unfinished."
"Is P2W ruining the game?"
"Worst customer service ever!"
"I don't normally post, but this game is a failure!"
"Dumbed down."
"Not enough content"
"I like this game, but the community is so aweful I refuse to play!"
"An honest opinion from an honest reviewer" (yeah, so everyone else's is not honest right?)
Stop responding to them you fools. Most of these are not real opinions.
Well, I understand what he is talking about. It is to bad we can't just stay in our own forum of choice and pump up the title instead of bash the ones we don't care for. We should be talking trash about FPS titles or something like that.
It is sad that the OP has to complain about people complaining! Stinking Winers!!!!
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I was thinking the same thing.
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There's been quite a heavy concentration of troll threads lately, but since everyone is free to state their "opinion" they wont be locked like they should.
Over half of the "bash the new, praise he old" are trolls, easy. Even if they genuinely believed what they believe, they have to make their threads/posts bipolar because they tend to be dramaqueens too: "Oh poor me, the world is going to end!"
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I know how you feel OP, but sometimes all we can do is direct our attention to something more positive, and like others have said, ignoring the obviously negative threads or posts looking for a reaction (aka trolling). I don't take my own advice often enough, but it works when I do. Where you direct your focus will be close to the destination of your perspective.
Tom does not like Feature A in Game X. Jerry loves Feature B in Game Y. According to some, Tom should not be allowed to post - only Jerry should.
Hrmmmm...
The best part is the following:
Laurel does not like Feature C in Game Z. Hardy loves Feature C in Game Z.
These threads go around and around, as Friends of Laurel and Friends of Hardy attempt to convince the other that they are "wrong" - when, er - it's a subjective thing. It's not a right or wrong thing. I do not like green beans. Some people do. Generally, we do not find the need to convince the other that they are wrong. Gamers do it all the time though.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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Negative opinions are as valid as positive ones and people are free to express both unless this site deems otherwise.However I do agree that most negative threads here and a frair amoutn of the postivie ones are devoid of constructive or meaningful discussion and jsut a bunch of people shouting extremist views at each toher with no intention of listening to the other side.If they do listen it's only to twist words to further their own afgendas.
But that's the internet for you,either learn to accept it or stop reading because it won't change.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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I am happy.
I am 100% for the trend of MMO turning into lobby-based co-op dungeon crawl. There are many MMOs with diverse settings from fantasy to Star Trek.
There are ARPG like D3 which is adding MMO features like AH.
And many many MMOs are going F2P. In fact, i am quite excited about Marvel Heroes, a Diablo like AAA mmo where you can play ... marvel heroes! It is also F2P.
So yeah a lot of people are negative .. but not me.
Yeah but some people take it too far, trolling has gotten quite childish these days, most the complaints aren't legit they just want to see that game fail.
I've been loosely following this game cause it seems fun, kinda what I wanted D3 to be.
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Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
And I think that is where a problem arises (something I just brought up in another thread). I generally think there are three types of "complaints", so to speak...
Thomas - posts that he does not like something. If you ask Thomas to elaborate, it may be like pulling teeth; but you will enventually figure out more details about what Thomas does not like. It's a legitimate complaint, it was just painful as Hell to figure it out.
Richard - posts that he does not like something. There's no substance to it - at all. Richard's just being a...well, anyway.
Harold - posts in details what he does not like. He may even go so far as to explain how it could be improved for him.
The more posts by folks like Richard, the more post by people like Thomas and Harold will get lumped in with posts by folks like Richard.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
this is a misinformed OP. THere are plenty of positive threads on here. The problem is that no one comments on positive thread. The threads that stay on the top are the ones about negative stuff. SO if you dig you will find tons of I love this game and this game is great. But no one response to them, everyone wants to be part of the flame wars.
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Available evidence provided by this forum over the last eight years (more?) suggests that it's never coming.
But there seems to be a healthy crowd who do not play MMOs, yet never stop bitchin' about them. You may join them, membership is free.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
yeah, kinda popped into my mind immedietaly