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Wait... You brought logic to a Fadedbomb thread?
Where do you think you are?
The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject.
Whoa there, buddy. I never said that your post history would indicate one thing or another. I don't think Halflife, the person I was responding to, was insulting you, either.
Biting, screaming and insulting?
Calling you a troll? a racist?
Maybe you might benefit from taking a step away from the computer for a couple of minutes, taking a deep breath and relaxing.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
What he's trying to say (I think) is don't believe everything a gaming megacorp tells you, specially regarding sub numbers and server loads.
Does it apply to GW2? Most probably not...yet. They're still surfing their wave of success so they have no need to lie.
You don't have to say "GW2 sucks and I don't like it" to say GW2 sucks and I don't like it......your methods are very common practice and anyone can read through your politically correct bs....
Again, re-read my OP. I'm not saying they're changing the numbers to any drastic extent at the moment. However, I'm pointing out that people are using these load indicators purely for argumentative purposes which is an ignorant thing to do. Several people in this thread have already understood that without insulting others.
Also, a company is a company no matter how you cut it. You can't pretend to understand ArenaNet simply because their PR people say that they're a kind & loving company. Producers, and the "Suits" of a company, do things often the developers are in direct protest to.
Are the developers good people? Most certainly the best i've seen, but a company still makes decisions regardless of how they feel, and they're the ones you're seeing in most of these videos.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
The "a racist?" remark was over the top on purpose, and to get your attention to what your posting. Probably wasn't needed, and I appologize.
However, your reply to check my post history for my "motives" directly relates to me somehow being a troll. That's the only way that could have been taken. How else did you expect me to respond to something like that
? What did you mean then, because it isn't obvious whatsoever.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Accurate.
Bingo ^
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
sigh...
So why didn't you go to general discussion, and posted your OP. You know what you are going to get if you go into any game forum and post that and with that title especially.
I get it, MoP launched and you guys expectected a mass exodus. When one didn't happen you wanted to make a thread saying just because the server loads say they are high it doesn't mean they are to cover your basis.
Now if you were talking about companies in general doing this you wouldn't have posted it specifically in the GW2 forums. Your thread was directed at GW2 hence why it was placed here and not some where else that would have fit in with your edit lol.
"I wasn't meaning to attack GW2, I was talking about this as an issue in general... yet I posted it here instead" Someone would need to consume a great deal of paint chips for that to fly lol.
Honestly, I can reread your OP all I want. It doesn't change the fact that your biased towards the negatives of why they could be "adjusting" population indicators. How about you step back for a second and stop assuming that I'm attacking you in general. That was only a counterexample to prove that "adjusting" population indicators is not always a bad thing. You need to relax and get off your high horse and just accept the fact that GW2 might just be doing this for a good reason, even if it ends up looking like a bad reason at the same time.
Oh and I am not basing anything off of pure logic. So stating that I am doing it because Anet told me that they would never lie to me is just to try to twist my words into your favor. Just accept that these are possibilities, like I have accepted that they might forge the numbers in their favor, and we can have a good day. If not, then you've solidified the purpose of this thread to everyone.
I agree with what you are saying. Those indicators can be "adjusted". I have a problem with coming to a specific game forum letting people know something that is obvious, this is not done to "instruct" like you want it to be persieved as its done to stir up a fight...
If you wanted a discussion you should have gone to general discussion since this is relevant to all games and changed your topic to be a lot less like "hey News Flash dumb people, you know these indicators might be played with by companies like Anet to lie!"
Do you have any reasons to distrust Anet numbers?
Anet has adjusted the server numbers since launch - they increased server capacity and created new servers. Anyone playing the game noticed how Monday 27th August most servers that had been full during weekend changed to high.
Saying that Anet numbers for server loads isn't a valid argument to people using Xfire numbers or their own personal experience (or imagined experience) is saying Anet is lying even if not in so many words.
So, do you have any reasons to think Anet has been adjusting server load numbers?
Based on my experience when 90% of my guild is on (like last sunday) the EU world Desolation is Full load. Otherwise it is on high population.
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
I think I've been outed as a word nerd.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Passive learning is a powerful thing. I wish more people used words that force people to google them
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Made me lol
OP... so what?
Sounds like you can understand then how people can see your posting of this in the GW2 forum and other incidental aspects of your OP to possibly indicate a motive other than random public service announcement.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Sure I can understand the idea behind it, but the very fact it was taken that way without any mention in that direction is rather a sign of how bad these forums really have gotten.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
I still have seen no response. So I hold my same view of this thread as I did the first time I read it. GW2 isn't the only company that can do that, I can name others, but sadly you put this thread here, so I don't care to since you've biased your forum viewers already.
But aren't you guilty of the same? After all, when I told Halflife to read your post history, you automatically assumed that was a bad thing, which is odd, because if you are genuinely being sincere here and you don't have a history that confirms Kuppa's statement, your post history would prove that, no?
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
Bingo!
Sadly the part in red makes a great deal more sense on why you would have posted this thread in these forums over what you tried to claim. Your post history doesn't help show your "pure" motives either. Again, you couldn't even stick to the same story on how you purchased the game. The same day you had 2 completely different stories lol. I bought it for $60 and it wasn't worth it, I paid $80 for the DE with a gift card so it was worth it... wtf lol?
It is rather suspicious that there isn't one server in GW2 that is "low"...the same happens in Vanguard. The Telon server NEVER dropped to low, even with only 50 people on the whole game. It was always at medium (or once in a while, high. GW2 is doing the same thing.
My Skyrim, Fallout 4, Starbound and WoW + other game mods at MODDB:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/skyrim-anime-overhaul
Actually I forgot which version I had gotten since I used an amazon gift-card. The $60 and $80 version really is no different other than some meaningless in-game fluff. So it was worth $60 to me.
Does that really scream agenda O_o?
Also, the fact he went SO far off into left field considering I don't consider WoW players & GW2 players to be of the same mindset. So No, MoP never was a consideration ever for me personally.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
You got caught in a blatant lie and now you are backpedaling to try and save face/retain credibility.
This thread needs a lock.