A lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.
Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode.
I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge.
While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
A lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.
Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode.
I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge.
While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Special effects though not that many but of better quality. Books are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.
One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
A lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.
Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode.
I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge.
While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Book are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.
One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts...
But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode.
You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story.
I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show.
Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed.
A lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.
Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode.
I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge.
While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Book are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.
One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts...
But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode.
You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story.
I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show.
Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed.
I can say BSG and GOT are better than Defiance because i didn't have to wait till 6 weeks to come to that conclusion. I will continue to watch it like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill.
And sex is not even an issue for me. I loved Spartacus and it has even more sex and nudity than GOT. So does Banshee, Californication etc.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.' -Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid." -Luke McKinney
Originally posted by Doogiehowser Originally posted by lordtwistedOriginally posted by DoogiehowserOriginally posted by lordtwistedOriginally posted by DoogiehowserA lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode. I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge. While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved. There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Book are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts... But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode. You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story. I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show. Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed. I can say BSG and GOT are better than Defiance because i didn't have to wait till 6 weeks to come to that conclusion. I will continue to watch it like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill.
And sex is not even an issue for me. I loved Spartacus and it has even more sex and nudity than GOT. So does Banshee, Californication etc.
hahaha gotta love comments like this!!!
"Story is not as good as GOT" One episode tells you that..damn dude you probably a script writer so you know these things.
"not as good quality" I don't know what you were watching but it was amazing...it added more immersion to me since I play the game as well.
but the dude I quoted was the best of the bunch...
"like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill."
are you SERIOUS....if you meant old BSG you might have a point but new one....ROFL...that one couldnt even save itself, and big shoes to fill about a fantasy series that delves more in sex than what its supposed to be about, then i kind of agree since Defiance doesnt even need to fill those shoes as it won't go that low, because thats the ONLY reason why GOT is even a smudge popular.
I would wait until later in the series for viewer figures before shouting how successful the series is. Many programs viewing figures drop sharply after the first one or two episodes and leave you with the core audience as those it doesn't appeal to move on.
For those who like the show I hope the drop isn't too sharp and you get to enjoy a new program
I personally didn't think much of it and probably won't be following it after watching the first episode. That it is linked to a game holds no interest to me.
I thoroughly enjoyed the show. My DVR is getting a workout now. I used to watch very little TV due to lackluster shows. Now I watch too many thanks to The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, Arrow, Defiance, Grimm, Bates Motel, Vikings, Hannibal, Justified, Banshee, Face Off and The Ultimate Fighter. I went from no TV to too much of it...
I thought the show was pretty boring with crap effects, like most shows on SciFy. I only was able to stay interesed in it up to about the half way point then just lost interest. Will not be watching future episodes.
After I watched the 15 preview my comment was 'I hope it's not another Terra Nova' (bad scenery, poor CGI). I'll continue to watch it (I like Sci-Fi and want anything related to succceed) but unless they do 'something' I don't see this lasting.
From the corny 'humor' (the doctor's lines were ...really bad) to the bad sets (you could see the blue screen delineations) to forced cliched dialog. It was pretty harsh.
There was one part where Nolan and the mayor were chasing the bad guy (who coincidentally turned out to the be the mayor's assistant thus allowing them the 'id' the culprit in less than a minute) where you could see the car they were chasing through the front windshield. I think the car in front was a shot of a car from the game? (If not it was REALLY bad CGI).
I was kind of surprised at the low quality considering that they wanted to use this as a bolster for the game (or the other way round). In any event, while I hope it does well, I think it will...not.
It's too bad this game is kind of cheap and shallow. If this show turns out to be popular and sticks around a while, they would have been much better off actually making a decent MMORPG rather than a one-dimentional MMOTPS. Oh well, that decision was made by the genius minds at "SyFy". The same people who have been trying their hardest to drive the network into the ground for the past several years.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Originally posted by DoogiehowserA lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode. I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge. While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Book are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts... But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode. You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story. I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show. Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed.
I can say BSG and GOT are better than Defiance because i didn't have to wait till 6 weeks to come to that conclusion. I will continue to watch it like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill.
And sex is not even an issue for me. I loved Spartacus and it has even more sex and nudity than GOT. So does Banshee, Californication etc.
hahaha gotta love comments like this!!!
"Story is not as good as GOT" One episode tells you that..damn dude you probably a script writer so you know these things.
"not as good quality" I don't know what you were watching but it was amazing...it added more immersion to me since I play the game as well.
but the dude I quoted was the best of the bunch...
"like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill."
are you SERIOUS....if you meant old BSG you might have a point but new one....ROFL...that one couldnt even save itself, and big shoes to fill about a fantasy series that delves more in sex than what its supposed to be about, then i kind of agree since Defiance doesnt even need to fill those shoes as it won't go that low, because thats the ONLY reason why GOT is even a smudge popular.
When someone is talking about BSG I always asume they are referring to the original series. The new one was just days of our lives in space. It was Syfys attempt to appeal to women which they explicitly said lol. SGU was in the same boat.
It's good to see that the MMO genre can have that level of impact on various forms of media including television.
This time next week: ABC (aka Disney) announces a new MMO! MickeyWarzGoofyCraft.
Naw, what am I saying, they're still banking next season's entire schedule on "Dancing With The Starwars".
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I think the show was a more interesting premise than an interesting story. I didn't appreciate the mini-spoilers in every commercial break either.
It felt extremely predictable as well. The Indogenes seem like a very hard race to have compelling characters with as distinguishing one from another is very difficult.
Also, I recognized the two main chracters from the game, but have no idea if there is any extra interaction as had been touted, or if it's more "you can play through some prequel stuff in our game and then watch the linear story later on tv". I had thought there'd be actual cause effect between the two, rather than one being a kind of video game codex for a show. Time will tell.
It's pretty bad when the game graphics look better than the show too - Motorcycle scene near the end, and a car scene halfway through especially.
Anyways, it's an interesting concept for a story, and an interesting concept for cross media interaction. Let's hope it becomes something interesting in reality.
It was awesome. They filled the 2 hour pilot with a number of characters, and somehow, by the 1.5 hour part when a certain event occurs (no spoilers here), I already feel as if I "know" the characters presented. They matter, they have their own personal struggles...just well done.
Originally posted by DoogiehowserA lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode. I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge. While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Book are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts... But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode. You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story. I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show. Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed.
I can say BSG and GOT are better than Defiance because i didn't have to wait till 6 weeks to come to that conclusion. I will continue to watch it like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill.
And sex is not even an issue for me. I loved Spartacus and it has even more sex and nudity than GOT. So does Banshee, Californication etc.
hahaha gotta love comments like this!!!
"Story is not as good as GOT" One episode tells you that..damn dude you probably a script writer so you know these things.
"not as good quality" I don't know what you were watching but it was amazing...it added more immersion to me since I play the game as well.
but the dude I quoted was the best of the bunch...
"like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill."
are you SERIOUS....if you meant old BSG you might have a point but new one....ROFL...that one couldnt even save itself, and big shoes to fill about a fantasy series that delves more in sex than what its supposed to be about, then i kind of agree since Defiance doesnt even need to fill those shoes as it won't go that low, because thats the ONLY reason why GOT is even a smudge popular.
When someone is talking about BSG I always asume they are referring to the original series. The new one was just days of our lives in space. It was Syfys attempt to appeal to women which they explicitly said lol. SGU was in the same boat.
If a focus on character and story over exlposions snd midless action is for women, I think I would rather be a woman.
Originally posted by Soki123 I thought it was a terrible show. Cheesy, and well lame. Comparing this to GOT is a joke IMO.
Everyone has their own opinion. I personally never found the appeal of GOT. He slept with her, she slept with him, he was sleeping with her brother, he's really that kids dad, shes banging a midget, shes banging everything but the midget, the midget is banging everyone else, oh look boob shot, throw in some dragons and blood...
I won't fault anyone for liking it, but it really isn't my thing. I found Defiance a great deal better, but its more along the lines of the type of shows I like and it was well done for the type of show it is.
thats what the real middle ages were like. Toffs interbreeding with each other.
Originally posted by DoogiehowserA lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode. I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge. While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Book are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts... But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode. You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story. I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show. Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed.
I can say BSG and GOT are better than Defiance because i didn't have to wait till 6 weeks to come to that conclusion. I will continue to watch it like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill.
And sex is not even an issue for me. I loved Spartacus and it has even more sex and nudity than GOT. So does Banshee, Californication etc.
hahaha gotta love comments like this!!!
"Story is not as good as GOT" One episode tells you that..damn dude you probably a script writer so you know these things.
"not as good quality" I don't know what you were watching but it was amazing...it added more immersion to me since I play the game as well.
but the dude I quoted was the best of the bunch...
"like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill."
are you SERIOUS....if you meant old BSG you might have a point but new one....ROFL...that one couldnt even save itself, and big shoes to fill about a fantasy series that delves more in sex than what its supposed to be about, then i kind of agree since Defiance doesnt even need to fill those shoes as it won't go that low, because thats the ONLY reason why GOT is even a smudge popular.
When someone is talking about BSG I always asume they are referring to the original series. The new one was just days of our lives in space. It was Syfys attempt to appeal to women which they explicitly said lol. SGU was in the same boat.
If a focus on character and story over exlposions snd midless action is for women, I think I would rather be a woman.
Agreed. BSG was not even remotely "for women". It was a story about the human condition, and very much mirrored the poltical climate at the time the show was on. Each one of the main chracters went through a unique journey, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Originally posted by DoogiehowserA lot of people are comapring it to Terra Nova. I enjoy the show but let us be honest here. It is not of same quality as BSG or Game Of Thrones.Shows like that are very rare.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode. I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge. While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Book are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts... But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode. You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story. I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show. Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed.
I can say BSG and GOT are better than Defiance because i didn't have to wait till 6 weeks to come to that conclusion. I will continue to watch it like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill.
And sex is not even an issue for me. I loved Spartacus and it has even more sex and nudity than GOT. So does Banshee, Californication etc.
hahaha gotta love comments like this!!!
"Story is not as good as GOT" One episode tells you that..damn dude you probably a script writer so you know these things.
"not as good quality" I don't know what you were watching but it was amazing...it added more immersion to me since I play the game as well.
but the dude I quoted was the best of the bunch...
"like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill."
are you SERIOUS....if you meant old BSG you might have a point but new one....ROFL...that one couldnt even save itself, and big shoes to fill about a fantasy series that delves more in sex than what its supposed to be about, then i kind of agree since Defiance doesnt even need to fill those shoes as it won't go that low, because thats the ONLY reason why GOT is even a smudge popular.
When someone is talking about BSG I always asume they are referring to the original series. The new one was just days of our lives in space. It was Syfys attempt to appeal to women which they explicitly said lol. SGU was in the same boat.
If a focus on character and story over exlposions snd midless action is for women, I think I would rather be a woman.
Nah, I don't mind a focus on character. My issue is with the over use of the "I'm really his evil twin brother" plotline (Just replace evil twin brother with Cylon lol) and other soap opera staples. Old BSG was awesome though, so at least we are both fans of the same IP. In any case the network president or ceo (Which ever she was) stated she was attempting to bring in more female viewers with the show. Thats not a bad thing, it just is what it is and wasn't the BSG I grew up with.
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I was throughly impressed with it.
Will be waiting patiently every Monday now.
MMOs Played: I can no longer list them all in the 500 character limit.
I disagree, I think it is a matter of perspective, you watched one episode.
I watched the first episode of Game of Thrones and thought, hmm, one show and we have soft incest porn, midget porn, and then one guy pimping out his sister to barbarians for revenge.
While I am sure the story is great, I mean the book sold big time, and the show has a huge fan base, but seriously, how much sex does one show need to be a hit? The Walking Dead pulled off a huge following and I think in three seasons there was one brief scene that was related to a sexual encounter, and it had the purpose of getting people emotionally involved.
Not so nice guy!
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Special effects though not that many but of better quality. Books are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it.
One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
Have to agree, it's nowhere near BSG or GoT when it comes to story, acting or production values.
But I'm delighted to hear that the first episode got great ratings. Hopefully it continues to do well, because that will be good for the game...
And so far, I've enjoyed playing Defiance far more than watching it !
Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts...
But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode.
You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story.
I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show.
Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed.
Not so nice guy!
I can say BSG and GOT are better than Defiance because i didn't have to wait till 6 weeks to come to that conclusion. I will continue to watch it like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill.
And sex is not even an issue for me. I loved Spartacus and it has even more sex and nudity than GOT. So does Banshee, Californication etc.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
There is so much more to GOT than just incest and porn. It has amazing actors, visuals, complex characters and inter twining relationships. Book are huge and it is a very difficult task to show everything in just 10 episodes. But at my age sex is nothign more than a distraction in shows like these and i have learned to look past it. One episode is enough though. Very first episode of GOT and BSG got me hooked.
Sorry, saw a squirrel or something and forgot to finish my thoughts... But that was my point in what I said, that was a first impression based on the premier episode. You kind of reinforce my point by saying while wtching the series you learned to look past all of that, and focus on the strong actors, and story. I don't see how you can say it is better than Defiance after only one show. Give it the Typical 6 weeks, then we can revisit the topic and all have a more informed opinion. It will be interesting to see how much peoples opinions changed.
I can say BSG and GOT are better than Defiance because i didn't have to wait till 6 weeks to come to that conclusion. I will continue to watch it like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill.
And sex is not even an issue for me. I loved Spartacus and it has even more sex and nudity than GOT. So does Banshee, Californication etc.
hahaha gotta love comments like this!!!
"Story is not as good as GOT" One episode tells you that..damn dude you probably a script writer so you know these things.
"not as good quality" I don't know what you were watching but it was amazing...it added more immersion to me since I play the game as well.
but the dude I quoted was the best of the bunch...
"like i said i enjoyed it but as far as BSG and GOT is concerned those are some big shoes to fill."
are you SERIOUS....if you meant old BSG you might have a point but new one....ROFL...that one couldnt even save itself, and big shoes to fill about a fantasy series that delves more in sex than what its supposed to be about, then i kind of agree since Defiance doesnt even need to fill those shoes as it won't go that low, because thats the ONLY reason why GOT is even a smudge popular.
I would wait until later in the series for viewer figures before shouting how successful the series is. Many programs viewing figures drop sharply after the first one or two episodes and leave you with the core audience as those it doesn't appeal to move on.
For those who like the show I hope the drop isn't too sharp and you get to enjoy a new program
I personally didn't think much of it and probably won't be following it after watching the first episode.
That it is linked to a game holds no interest to me.
I thought the show was pretty boring with crap effects, like most shows on SciFy. I only was able to stay interesed in it up to about the half way point then just lost interest. Will not be watching future episodes.
After I watched the 15 preview my comment was 'I hope it's not another Terra Nova' (bad scenery, poor CGI). I'll continue to watch it (I like Sci-Fi and want anything related to succceed) but unless they do 'something' I don't see this lasting.
From the corny 'humor' (the doctor's lines were ...really bad) to the bad sets (you could see the blue screen delineations) to forced cliched dialog. It was pretty harsh.
There was one part where Nolan and the mayor were chasing the bad guy (who coincidentally turned out to the be the mayor's assistant thus allowing them the 'id' the culprit in less than a minute) where you could see the car they were chasing through the front windshield. I think the car in front was a shot of a car from the game? (If not it was REALLY bad CGI).
I was kind of surprised at the low quality considering that they wanted to use this as a bolster for the game (or the other way round). In any event, while I hope it does well, I think it will...not.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
When someone is talking about BSG I always asume they are referring to the original series. The new one was just days of our lives in space. It was Syfys attempt to appeal to women which they explicitly said lol. SGU was in the same boat.
This time next week: ABC (aka Disney) announces a new MMO! MickeyWarzGoofyCraft.
Naw, what am I saying, they're still banking next season's entire schedule on "Dancing With The Starwars".
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I think the show was a more interesting premise than an interesting story. I didn't appreciate the mini-spoilers in every commercial break either.
It felt extremely predictable as well. The Indogenes seem like a very hard race to have compelling characters with as distinguishing one from another is very difficult.
Also, I recognized the two main chracters from the game, but have no idea if there is any extra interaction as had been touted, or if it's more "you can play through some prequel stuff in our game and then watch the linear story later on tv". I had thought there'd be actual cause effect between the two, rather than one being a kind of video game codex for a show. Time will tell.
It's pretty bad when the game graphics look better than the show too - Motorcycle scene near the end, and a car scene halfway through especially.
Anyways, it's an interesting concept for a story, and an interesting concept for cross media interaction. Let's hope it becomes something interesting in reality.
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It was awesome. They filled the 2 hour pilot with a number of characters, and somehow, by the 1.5 hour part when a certain event occurs (no spoilers here), I already feel as if I "know" the characters presented. They matter, they have their own personal struggles...just well done.
/bravo
http://www.syfy.co.uk/defiance - Should be there the day after it aired.
If a focus on character and story over exlposions snd midless action is for women, I think I would rather be a woman.
thats what the real middle ages were like. Toffs interbreeding with each other.
Agreed. BSG was not even remotely "for women". It was a story about the human condition, and very much mirrored the poltical climate at the time the show was on. Each one of the main chracters went through a unique journey, and I enjoyed every minute of it.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
Nah, I don't mind a focus on character. My issue is with the over use of the "I'm really his evil twin brother" plotline (Just replace evil twin brother with Cylon lol) and other soap opera staples. Old BSG was awesome though, so at least we are both fans of the same IP. In any case the network president or ceo (Which ever she was) stated she was attempting to bring in more female viewers with the show. Thats not a bad thing, it just is what it is and wasn't the BSG I grew up with.