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You are right, there hasnt been much of #2, but I have seen it.
As for the whole CU being a success thing, thats at least 4 years out: 3 for the game to release and 1 to truly judge if its a success. Of the two HUGE titles in development, we know one is a sandbox (EQNext) and with games like GW2 not resembling WoW at all, havent we seen a shift already? And of course there is that other huge game... What if Titan is something completely different?
And what if another title like The repopulation becomes a hit before CU is even launched? If the studios have mostly ignored EvE why wouldnt they ignore CU too? We already know foir a FACT that niche games with a sub work. the #2 sub game is a niche game.
There where post in other forums, but all you have to do is look at the top 8 posters in CU and it's all bumps,. so yeah sorry it was spam.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
Threads with titles like 'The final countdown for a kickstarter, and an industry" or whatever its called are the biggest reasons why the forums turned volatile. the so called haters were an effect, not a cause. A thread like that is a lightning rod not only for trolls, but for people that just like to call out bullshit when they see it.
I disagree with your times here.
The projected release is December 2015. So, the game will probably move to closed Beta about April - June 2015.
With so many having paid for access we will have a pretty good idea by August - October 2015 at the latest what the final product will be like.
If it does release December 2015 then by late Feburary 2015 the final verdict will be in - with the exception of a few who will either be claiming that "players will soon get bored with .... blah blah" OR "...server mergers are a good thing and now the community is more compact!" - depending on how it goes?
The majority of players will have a pretty clear idea of how it is going within a week of 'retail release'.
As for "niche" - can we stop saying that? Please? All it really means is "We don't think we will topple WoW {but if we do...W00t!!}"
Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.
When people get hyped up, they do dumb shit, much like the spam posts etc.
Either way, I hope this game turns out great. I'm personally excited for it, but the mmo industry needs less fan boys, and more people to just accept that people may be into the game, may not be.
Killing dragons is my shit
I must admit that I have been somehwat trolly towards the CU playerbase, or at least some of it, those who were very self entitled or just spammed too much.
However I am glad the game is now funded, and hope it at leats reaches the 2.5 mil stretch goal (altho it might be hard) as the depths seem like a cool idea.
To a good development and a good game.
It wasn't all that mysterious, it was the in thing to bitch about in regard to CU. Much like faction locks for ESO, mounts for Gw2, queues with Neverwinter. The chorus of disaproval (whom all seem to watch the "live feed"..... coincidence?). Find an issue and sensatiionalize it for every title.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Where to start....
That should give hope to you guys wanting other niche non wow clone product.
Wouldn't be suprised if we now saw a ks for a swg style pve sandbox for instance
nothing mysterious about it, I use the current forum activity page on this site to access new posts and it was clogged up for too long with Camelot spam.
1. The game most likely will not hit projected release, especially when the flex goals start coming in. If they are planning on 2.5 years expect 3 years+. Things always take longer than planned.
2. I think you need at least a 6 month span to see retention trends. Realistically even longer. Rift got huge praise on its release and looked like a hit. But its retention was awful. EQ2 started out looking like a dud but they fixed the game up pretty well. the result? at the two year mark EQ2 had more subs than Rift at the two year mark. Both games were moderate successes, but two months out one looked like a hit and the other looked like a flop.
Even so, all my other points do hold up about the matter. By early 2016 EQN, probably Titan as well as a few of the earlier kickstarter MMOs will be out already.
Niche means that it is only trying to appease a subset of the general population. A game like Rift tries its best to appease everyone. A game like Darkfall is only going after diehard PvPers. Everquest was actually a niche game in a way because it didnt care about the PvP crowd (some played regardless though).
Here is one that has used kickstarter to augment the game and is certainlly heavily influenced by swg
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/therepopulation/the-repopulation
Of course CU is being majorly funded by KS while this game is only getting some extra development money
You stay sassy!
Did you even read what I wrote? I wasn't talking about any article I was talking about a Tweet from Ben on Twitter that literally stated "Mark Jacobs spamming us about your Kickstarter will not get you coverage." Ben has also stated on Twitter how shady he felt the reward tiers were. So maybe next time you should read what I wrote instead of getting all butt hurt and replying in a rage.
Steam: Neph
I would if I didn't have to probably go through 1000's of Tweets at this point and I wasn't at work where the PC will explode just trying to load my twitter feed.
Steam: Neph
I read what you wrote. Ben Kuchera calling anyone out for spamming on Twitter is a joke.
Ben Kuchera on Twitter at all is a joke.
http://www.giantbomb.com/forums/general-discussion-30/ben-kuchera-starts-twitter-smear-campagin-against--576873/
Aside from that, Ben Kuchera blaming Mark Jacobs for spamming because he couldn't grasp the concept of a developer actually having a fan base as dedicated as the fans of CU are was sheer laziness on his part, but that is typical of his 'professionalism'.
His statement of anything being 'Shady' is just icing on the irony cake.
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