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Neverwinter: Is the game dead now?
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I find that quite funny, claiming it's open beta, yet banning like it's gone 'gold'
Also i forgot to point out that it might not be technically doable to roll-back the servers, not every company have that sort of infrastructure these days as it is costly.
And as for wiping the servers... .. . Not sure that is such a good idea either. People tend to get over financial loss a lot faster then loss of time. So they risk a lot more people leaving if they wipe the servers then they do by keeping the exploited economy. Especially as a server wipe would hurt the casual player a lot more then the exploited economy.
@fusion: well just look at it as them testing the ban function on people breaking the EULA =P
This have been a good conversation
lol, i keep laughing at all these beta remarks.not everything wich is called beta is a beta. this is not a spoon
Client crashes, Memory leaks, Faulty game design, Numerous exploits, Too many bugs ...
These cannot make a game finished or playable.
I played with the founder's pack and now my $60 is also looted / cheated.
This game is a shame and the companies behind it should do something.
Else, this game will just be an example of the manipulative malpractice EXECUTED between a service provider and the service
Cheers
Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
Once An Addict Always An Addict .
well put
It's not gonna affect you, when they do nothing and the Whole ingame economy is insanely inflated due to the insane amount of AD in circulation.
Legit players have already an Extremely tough time gathering AD. Items and Upgrades, etc were already crazy expensive. With now the entire ingame economy litterly destroyed! Good Luck getting anything the legit way.
What can i say.
Some need to learn the hard way, dont get in bed with Cryptic NCsoft learned the hard way.
Hell even our "Bill Roper" learned that :P
Wipe the server, close down the game. Bring it back up again when it's actually ready. Refund everyone's money that bought Zen.
... it will never happen... but it should.
I want to know how all this happened in the first place? How are there so many holes in this game to allow all these exploits? I think as you do, just restart the game, give the founders what they deserve and let us all start from scratch. I know there are tons of innocent players around that would never ever exploit, but for us folks, it is too late to try to get this economy under wraps again. I worked hard to get where I am atm, but damn, I do not want to live in this world where there are cheaters who have billions of AD for nothing. Personally I think this whole damn planet needs a rest. I can't comprehend how any human would even feel remotely okay with exploiting a game like they have! Is there no shame? No feeling of how dirty one might be for doing this? It really is beyond my comprehension. It honestly makes me feel bad for humanity. And I know it is just a game. A virtual world. But if all these humans could do this in real life would they exploit it? Serious question there.
It has to happen.
Else there is nothing else to happen.
It has no other fix.
Cheers
Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
Once An Addict Always An Addict .
Faulty Game Design.
Greed of real money from developer and publisher.
Just one mistake.
There is a hole where you fall when you try to burn a hole down in someone else's pocket through malpractice.
Cheers
Sourajit Nandi
" Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you can't play this or that. That's nonsense. Make up your mind,and you'll never whine or repent about gaming hours anymore, then have a go at every Game. Open up the Internet, join in all the Mmorpgs you can. Go make the Guild. But never, never let them persuade you that things are too difficult or impossible. "
Once An Addict Always An Addict .
wipe. i know it may not be everyone's cup of tea but that just me.
let's just hope that this won't end up like their other game, RaiderZ
edit: but it is PWE, so what can i expect? heh
IF someone is losing sleep over cheating on a bloody video game they need to get their priorities straight or get medical help. IF you feel that if you cheated on a game you wouldnt be able to live with yourself you too need to seek profesional help.
SpottyGekko that comment should be reserved for the developers/publishers, not the poster you quoted.
If exploiting a bug is easy as shit in this game because it's easy as pie, the game is broken. Playing a single-player game is a bit different; you can choose not to quicksave, choose the difficulty level of the whole game, godmode/give yourself best items in the game, etc. You cannot be a player in Neverwinter (or any mmo), shove your fucking head into the ground like a six year-old child (or an emu) and lecture others about how we're being bitchy and whining about "exploits" and "cheating".
Even if you're just finding out about the exploits and the collapse of the AD/Zen shitstorm, you aren't an any better person by saying "it doesn't effect me just play the game! Gosh!". People are paying big $$$$ (alot of people in this thread even) and putting in big trust in the developers for making a good game that is secure and not swiss-cheese'd with bugsploits.
Another thing to think about is this: If you are playing this single-player-mmo and all you need to play is in the game already (no need to trade for stuff) AND already know about this disaster, then make posts defending the dev/publishers actions is immoral, illogical, and tells others that when you are typing, you've replaced your brain with your ass. Now, you might be very intellectual and have a Ph.D in selling snakeoil but in the case of gaming, you're helping continue the failing of our genre.
I'm happy if you're having a good time with this game and it's giving you entertainment and I hope you always do (if not with this game then other mmo's), but we all should understand that THIS DEVELOPER AND PUBLISHER have cheated people and this needs more coverage on gaming sites (might make another thread).
tl;dr = read this post
Relax dude, it's a game and only a complete moron would give any money to the cash shop when it's still in beta.
Uh no, I won't relax and as you can see from forums (not just this one) that people just might take things seriously. Especially when money is involved, regardless if it is F2P.
I agree though on the rest of the post. I hardly spend money on a F2P title except when I can see myself putting alot of hours or it's like EQ2 and a regular subscription gives me the whole game. But lately F2P titles are getting alot more cash from the overall subscriber base than just having a flat fee...but yeah I wouldn't exactly people "retarded" cuz they'll say "you fucking sesquipedalian lysol-wearing motherf***er who are you to say what people do with their money!?". They're getting alot of money already from players (all F2P mmo's are, how do you think they're running) so you and I might as well call half the people on this forum idiots lol
Game dead ? Well those servers are certainly dead. They will find a few exploiters of the ah bug and those who did it recently, but as with the others exploits, they are only going for the worst cases.. the rest will go free. So I have no faith in a fair outcome from "investigating and banning".
When things settle and exploits have been addressed in some months or half a year, and if they make a brand new server with new economy, I might come back.. but then again.. who knows if other distractions have caught me then /cough EqNext.
You know the smart exploiters dont' have 100million on one account, they did it on anonymous accounts, split stuff up, sent it to other accounts numerous times, and bought legit items and resold.. exactly the same as in real life, the more complicated your transaction record is to unravel, the more chance there is to get away with it.
"I am my connectome" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HA7GwKXfJB0
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Open beta are great for optimizing server structure, server numbers and such. But not things like GW's oneshotting bosses, buggy AHs, non-existant graphical optimization, game freezes, malfuntioning AI mechanics (threat being borked for 3 months running, basicly screwing over 2/5 classes.)
Having a long beta is not the problem. Having bugs is not the problem. Having a NO WIPE open beta with THIS many bugs and then throwing REAL MONEY into the mix is the problem.
The game basically launched because of the shop. Too much real money is tied into this atm. The economy is DESTROYED and if they do a wipe many of the people will quit, if they do not many people will quit in a few months because the economy is unbearable.
In short, they fked themselves and more importantly the players. I do not blame Cryptic completely, although the glitches, bugs and exploits are clearly all their doing, but PWE insisted on launching the game during a beta state with a cash shop and fked the game. It is sad because something so beautiful that could easily sit on 2 Million+ constant players could now go to slowly die and be lucky to keep 100k after a year.
This AH bug for weeks is something that any halfway decent programmer would never have let into live code in the first place. Not to mention that checking inputs on the forms and trying to break them should have been handled by properly written tests and/or QA. It is sloppy, particularly as this is a piece of code tied to the value of Zen and AD.
-1 for Cryptic
this game is a pure fail , again a game from PWE to make monnay over quality
each day pass , more and more ppl complain about this game....
Isnt another option to make a new server ?
Overdramatic much?
Game isnt dead, stop pretending just because a vocal minority says so
The Enlightened take things Lightly
little... rofl