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Ever since the surge in F2P madness my bunny hopping from one MMO to another is out of control!

Its crazy!!

Every time i sit down to play a MMO after a long hard day at work i just can not make up my mind regarding what MMO to stick to...atleast for a couple of days if not for weeks or months.

Just last week i started playing AION, i hit lvl 30 on fast track server, thought this time i will surely hit level cap (something i rarely do these days) and see some higher level content. And then yesterday and today i spent majority of my time playing STO new expansion. Similar things happened to me last month when i was jumping between AOC, TSW and GW2. 

As a result i have mid level characters across all the MMOS including EQ2, CO, Tera, Defiance, AOC, TSW, Vanguard, AION; DDO, LOTRO, SWTOR...phew!! (pardon me if i forgot some other names).

Only MMO i managed to hit cap recently  was in NW and GW2 that also because leveling is quite fast.

So what i am saying is that anyone else having this problem where they are finding it harder and harder to stick to one MMO? not because you are not enjoying it but because you have too many MMOS to choose and play from?

I keep getting distracted and at this rate i don't think i will ever be able to see higher level content.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

    Not exactly, but I do have a backlog of games to play on the XBox and Steam. I pick a game an evening and play that game when I have time. When it's MMO night, I play TSW. For the past few nights it's been Silent Hill.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    You have no vested interest in staying with a single game, especially with no up front costs, sub fees, and at the end of the day, any real purpose or accomplishment to strive for.

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  • WhitebeardsWhitebeards Member Posts: 778
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    You have no vested interest in staying with a single game, especially with no up front costs, sub fees, and at the end of the day, any real purpose or accomplishment to strive for.

    I admit now i have more choices without shelling out 15 bucks just to get access to the game but even earlier when all MMOS were P2P i atleast used to stick to one for minimum one month if not more.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Whitebeards

    So what i am saying is that anyone else having this problem where they are finding it harder and harder to stick to one MMO? not because you are not enjoying it but because you have too many MMOS to choose and play from?

     

    It is not a problem. You get to experience more variety of gameplay. It is a good thing.

    Plus, didn't people complain they don't like the end-game, and it is about the journey? Now you can have many journeys.

     

  • MachkeznhoMachkeznho Member UncommonPosts: 428
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    You have no vested interest in staying with a single game, especially with no up front costs, sub fees, and at the end of the day, any real purpose or accomplishment to strive for.

    There is no real accomplishment in video games anyway .. they are all illusion created by the devs.

    And real purpose .. there is always one real purpose .. to be entertained, and that happens with every game i played.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    hmm .. how was i paying F2P games with water?

    At least none is costly me any money. And research shows more than half of MMO players do not pay. So yeah, these games are free to half .. and me.

  • MachkeznhoMachkeznho Member UncommonPosts: 428
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    hmm .. how was i paying F2P games with water?

    At least none is costly me any money. And research shows more than half of MMO players do not pay. So yeah, these games are free to half .. and me.

     I was referring to real life water bills as an example of how nothing is free.....

  • nethervoidnethervoid Member UncommonPosts: 533
    Man you're lucky. I'm having a hard time finding an MMO I actually want to play at all. Most of the new ones are too shallow, and the old ones are.. old. I've pretty much played the hell out of those. lol

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  • VolkonVolkon Member UncommonPosts: 3,748
    No problems here. I play GW2 the vast majority of the time and periodically jump into Defiance for a little vroom vroom and bang bang.

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Datastar
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    hmm .. how was i paying F2P games with water?

    At least none is costly me any money. And research shows more than half of MMO players do not pay. So yeah, these games are free to half .. and me.

     I was referring to real life water bills as an example of how nothing is free.....

    "Nothing is free" is such a out-of-date cliche.

    Many MMOs are free .. up to a point. I played STO for quite a while already and didn't pay a peny. Tell me that is not free entertainment.

    Much of information is free ... when is the last time you pay for a game review? Or a CNN news story.

    In this day & age, business is more than happy to give out free stuff hoping for your attention, which is the scarce commodity.

     

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Whitebeards

    So what i am saying is that anyone else having this problem where they are finding it harder and harder to stick to one MMO? not because you are not enjoying it but because you have too many MMOS to choose and play from?

    I'm having that same experience, but I wouldn't describe it as a problem. I'm enjoying it.

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  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    Actually on Earth, Oxygen is the most abundant resource...but now I'm just being a smartass lol.

     

    Fun Fact: In the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant resource :)

     

    Edit: And it is true that there is absolutely nothing that is free.  You could say the air you breathe is free, but it is not.  You must spend energy in order to move your diaphragm to breathe :)

  • MachkeznhoMachkeznho Member UncommonPosts: 428
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Datastar
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    hmm .. how was i paying F2P games with water?

    At least none is costly me any money. And research shows more than half of MMO players do not pay. So yeah, these games are free to half .. and me.

     I was referring to real life water bills as an example of how nothing is free.....

    "Nothing is free" is such a out-of-date cliche.

    Many MMOs are free .. up to a point. I played STO for quite a while already and didn't pay a peny. Tell me that is not free entertainment.

    Much of information is free ... when is the last time you pay for a game review? Or a CNN news story.

    In this day & age, business is more than happy to give out free stuff hoping for your attention, which is the scarce commodity.

     

     I now see its pointless trying to convey simple business to people here, f2p titles cost money to make, they expect a return.  You may not have to pay anything up front but they will either A: force you to pay a micro transaction to remain competitive or B: add content that isn't free or C: force their cash shop ads down your throat.  You may choose not to pay and be a sub-par player in that title and ofc that's your choice but for those of us that actually want to compete and have meaningful end game play (IE non casual gamers) you have to pay to play.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    You have no vested interest in staying with a single game, especially with no up front costs, sub fees, and at the end of the day, any real purpose or accomplishment to strive for.

    There is no real accomplishment in video games anyway .. they are all illusion created by the devs.

    And real purpose .. there is always one real purpose .. to be entertained, and that happens with every game i played.

    er example?

    The accomplishments that are in these games are based on what these games offer. Some might off accomplishment that is more difficult to get or easier but as long as their are milestones in any of these games then there are accomplishments.

    accomplishment means to attain something by effort.

    you are saying none of these games offer anything that one can attain? By effort?

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  • RandomDownRandomDown Member UncommonPosts: 145
    Originally posted by Gravarg
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    Actually on Earth, Oxygen is the most abundant resource...but now I'm just being a smartass lol.

     

    Fun Fact: In the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant resource :)

     

    Edit: And it is true that there is absolutely nothing that is free.  You could say the air you breathe is free, but it is not.  You must spend energy in order to move your diaphragm to breathe :)

    Potable water actually isn't that abundant either so he's wrong in two ways with that statement. There sure is a ton of salt water though.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Datastar
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Datastar
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    hmm .. how was i paying F2P games with water?

    At least none is costly me any money. And research shows more than half of MMO players do not pay. So yeah, these games are free to half .. and me.

     I was referring to real life water bills as an example of how nothing is free.....

    "Nothing is free" is such a out-of-date cliche.

    Many MMOs are free .. up to a point. I played STO for quite a while already and didn't pay a peny. Tell me that is not free entertainment.

    Much of information is free ... when is the last time you pay for a game review? Or a CNN news story.

    In this day & age, business is more than happy to give out free stuff hoping for your attention, which is the scarce commodity.

     

     I now see its pointless trying to convey simple business to people here, f2p titles cost money to make, they expect a return.  You may not have to pay anything up front but they will either A: force you to pay a micro transaction to remain competitive or B: add content that isn't free or C: force their cash shop ads down your throat.  You may choose not to pay and be a sub-par player in that title and ofc that's your choice but for those of us that actually want to compete and have meaningful end game play (IE non casual gamers) you have to pay to play.

    So? Stuff cost money to make do not always charge every single user. This forum costs money to make. Have you paid a cent for the enjoyment of it?

    And you said it yourself "you may choose not to pay" which directly contradict "you have to pay to play". 

    Lots of people play free games every day. Are you denying that fact?

     

  • SawlstoneSawlstone Member Posts: 301
    Originally posted by RandomDown
    Originally posted by Gravarg
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    Actually on Earth, Oxygen is the most abundant resource...but now I'm just being a smartass lol.

     

    Fun Fact: In the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant resource :)

     

    Edit: And it is true that there is absolutely nothing that is free.  You could say the air you breathe is free, but it is not.  You must spend energy in order to move your diaphragm to breathe :)

    Potable water actually isn't that abundant either so he's wrong in two ways with that statement. There sure is a ton of salt water though.

    Well actually water is the most abundant resource. Oxygen is the most abundant element with maybe 80% of it in water. Now since you are not splitting those water molecules they are remaining as water for drinking, power and recreation purposes which all have a price tag attached so technically we are paying for it.

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    You have no vested interest in staying with a single game, especially with no up front costs, sub fees, and at the end of the day, any real purpose or accomplishment to strive for.

    There is no real accomplishment in video games anyway .. they are all illusion created by the devs.

    And real purpose .. there is always one real purpose .. to be entertained, and that happens with every game i played.

    er example?

    The accomplishments that are in these games are based on what these games offer. Some might off accomplishment that is more difficult to get or easier but as long as their are milestones in any of these games then there are accomplishments.

    accomplishment means to attain something by effort.

    you are saying none of these games offer anything that one can attain? By effort?


    I am saying those in-game "accomplishment" is whatever devs set up to entertainment, and does not really mean anything. It is like i say i will give you a certificate if you type out a thousand times "narius is awesome" in a post. You certainly will attain "something" (a certificate) by effort (typing). Is that a real accomplishment for you?

     

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Gravarg

    Edit: And it is true that there is absolutely nothing that is free.  You could say the air you breathe is free, but it is not.  You must spend energy in order to move your diaphragm to breathe :)

    "free with respect to money". How about that?

    It is meaningless to discuss energy expenditure of breathing, or moving a mouse, when we are discussing the business of games.

  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504

    In some ways this actually broadens my ability to play the games I want.  With subscription MMOs I was always sort of obligated to play the one I was subscribed to and not spend time in others. Although I suppose I'm still doing that with a WOW subscription, I'm back dabbling in SWTOR and GW2 recently and if either of those had been full subscription games I would've stayed away most likely.

    It's overall a good thing.  When players are able to freely play whatever game they want without being locked into a subscription, then the best games will end up having more players.

    Now all someone needs to do is release a game with better grouping gameplay than WOW.  At some point someone will have to do it purely by random chance, right?

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    You have no vested interest in staying with a single game, especially with no up front costs, sub fees, and at the end of the day, any real purpose or accomplishment to strive for.

    There is no real accomplishment in video games anyway .. they are all illusion created by the devs.

    And real purpose .. there is always one real purpose .. to be entertained, and that happens with every game i played.

    er example?

    The accomplishments that are in these games are based on what these games offer. Some might off accomplishment that is more difficult to get or easier but as long as their are milestones in any of these games then there are accomplishments.

    accomplishment means to attain something by effort.

    you are saying none of these games offer anything that one can attain? By effort?


    I am saying those in-game "accomplishment" is whatever devs set up to entertainment, and does not really mean anything. It is like i say i will give you a certificate if you type out a thousand times "narius is awesome" in a post. You certainly will attain "something" (a certificate) by effort (typing). Is that a real accomplishment for you?

     

    It is in the context of the exercise.

    If I want that certificate and doing that activity allows for me to obtain that certificate then it's an accomplishment.

    What you are saying is that an accomplishment must always be profoundly important. And that's just not the case.

    My climbing Mount Washington is an accomplishment. But it is not much of an accomplishment next to me getting a Ph.D.

    But one might say it's still an accomplishment.

    My group finally taking down Raid Boss "Z" is still an accomplishment but could be considered lesser or greater depending on what you compare it to.

    I think in the end it depends on the person as well as the context.

     

     

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  • DrakynnDrakynn Member Posts: 2,030
    Originally posted by Sawlstone
    Originally posted by RandomDown
    Originally posted by Gravarg
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    Actually on Earth, Oxygen is the most abundant resource...but now I'm just being a smartass lol.

     

    Fun Fact: In the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant resource :)

     

    Edit: And it is true that there is absolutely nothing that is free.  You could say the air you breathe is free, but it is not.  You must spend energy in order to move your diaphragm to breathe :)

    Potable water actually isn't that abundant either so he's wrong in two ways with that statement. There sure is a ton of salt water though.

    Well actually water is the most abundant resource. Oxygen is the most abundant element with maybe 80% of it in water. Now since you are not splitting those water molecules they are remaining as water for drinking, power and recreation purposes which all have a price tag attached so technically we are paying for it.

    he said potable water.Potable means water suitable for drinking...that is not as abundant as what your alluding too.

  • SawlstoneSawlstone Member Posts: 301
    Originally posted by Drakynn
    Originally posted by Sawlstone
    Originally posted by RandomDown
    Originally posted by Gravarg
    Originally posted by Datastar
    that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me.  Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....

    Actually on Earth, Oxygen is the most abundant resource...but now I'm just being a smartass lol.

     

    Fun Fact: In the Universe, Hydrogen is the most abundant resource :)

     

    Edit: And it is true that there is absolutely nothing that is free.  You could say the air you breathe is free, but it is not.  You must spend energy in order to move your diaphragm to breathe :)

    Potable water actually isn't that abundant either so he's wrong in two ways with that statement. There sure is a ton of salt water though.

    Well actually water is the most abundant resource. Oxygen is the most abundant element with maybe 80% of it in water. Now since you are not splitting those water molecules they are remaining as water for drinking, power and recreation purposes which all have a price tag attached so technically we are paying for it.

    he said potable water.Potable means water suitable for drinking...that is not as abundant as what your alluding too.

    Actually the 3rd and 4th quoted with reference to potable. I just referred back to the original which was water in general. And I'll stand by my point dammit lol!!

  • ArclanArclan Member UncommonPosts: 1,550


    Originally posted by Datastar
    Originally posted by nariusseldon Originally posted by Datastar that's because f2p titles lack depth and staying power, they are designed to be short term money grabs, anyone who thinks f2p is actually free should share what ever substances they are on with me. Nothing is free, heck you pay for the most abundant resource on the planet...water....
    hmm .. how was i paying F2P games with water? At least none is costly me any money. And research shows more than half of MMO players do not pay. So yeah, these games are free to half .. and me.
    I was referring to real life water bills as an example of how nothing is free.....


    Datastar, your points are 100% correct, and the clarification was unnecessary. The "F2P" lobyist's goal was to agitate you and dilute your argument with mindless babble. It never works but he keeps trying.

    Luckily, i don't need you to like me to enjoy video games. -nariusseldon.
    In F2P I think it's more a case of the game's trying to play the player's. -laserit

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