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  • simsalabim77simsalabim77 Member RarePosts: 1,607
    None of those things make me want to buy the game. Is there a free trial?
  • MkilbrideMkilbride Member UncommonPosts: 643

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    You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.

     

    The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.

    Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

  • BurntvetBurntvet Member RarePosts: 3,465
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

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    You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.

     

    The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.

     

    This. ^^ Same unfinished/unpolished problems as DF1, by the same company that did a poor job with many things last time. Only this time, AV significantly changed the core gameplay from DF1, so many of the people that could tolerate the problems of DF1 because they liked it, won't do so now.
  • ClassicstarClassicstar Member UncommonPosts: 2,697

    Savezones sucks and it's half of what Darkfall 1 was no thanks.

    Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!

    MB:Asus V De Luxe z77
    CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
    GPU: AMD Fury X(waiting for BIG VEGA 10 or 11 HBM2?(bit unclear now))
    MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
    PSU:Corsair AX1200i
    OS:Windows 10 64bit

  • WylfWylf Member UncommonPosts: 376
    Originally posted by -Zeno-

    Let me list off what few other games do that Darkfall does:

    FPS

    Full loot

    Player items are the best - no dungeon raiding for l33t sword of stupidness

    City sieges with real destructible items that cost to rebuild.

    True player driven economy - no developer driven prices, no developer driven inflation (look at GW2 for dev driven inflation)

    Destructible boats and real piracy

    Progression is fast

    AV has more info going to its players than any other game developers game (amazing communication in comparison to almost every other game on the market) - Crazy improvement over where they used to be.

    It's on STEAM and is the first game that you can pay the monthly fee through Steam!

    It has a monthly fee to keep the game fair (no pay to win)

    Small dev team that actually listens to its players!  Prowess system was player driven idea, not developer.  Who else would change the fundamentals of the game for players?  

    Fast on support tickets.  Get answers within hours.

    Player driven politics and clan warfare.  Strong enough clan can claim territory if they wanted by physical means (kill everyone)

    Safe zones for new players.

    I could go on and on with the good things... however I have to go to my city to remove people that are camping it with my clan.

     

     

    I don't know if the OP is trolling or not, if not paid to post then the OP certainly likes this game. However his/her facts are suspect as Mkilbride said:

    You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.

    The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.

    Makes me wonder about the rest of the OP's claims…  But if this is an honest post by the OP, then good luck to you, however I will not be buying this game.

     

     

  • ZooceZooce Member Posts: 586
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

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     You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.

    The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.

    #1 complaint on forums is lack of content.

    Servers were never down for a week.

    Cheaters are banned and names are published at unholybanhammer.com

    It's horrible having to read the trashy lies you fabricate to smear a game you never even played.

    AV's communication has improved tremendously.  Here, read about thier plans for the next 8 weeks.

  • MkilbrideMkilbride Member UncommonPosts: 643

    Yes there were, was all over the forums, Youtube, and here.

     

    They already missed their schedule.

    Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

  • znaiikaznaiika Member Posts: 203

    So desperate? already? I feel sorry for developers, this project will loose a lot of money, that what happen to PvP oriented games and nail in the head is fool loot, plus, 12 year old graphics and animations.

    This game is not that interesting to spend money for it.

  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310
    Originally posted by znaiika

    So desperate? already? I feel sorry for developers, this project will loose a lot of money, that what happen to PvP oriented games and nail in the head is fool loot, plus, 12 year old graphics and animations.

    This game is not that interesting to spend money for it.

    Games that only spend their time on PvE are what leads to games going f2p after the first year of their existence. The industry as a whole is complete sh** The only developers that seem to have anything at all going for them are ANET, because they are able to release new content to keep the content locus happy and CCP. Everyone else makes the same crappy games that we've been playing for years, with a few independent developers that don't have the funding to keep things going (AV, SV, Masthead, etc)

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    AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
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  • znaiikaznaiika Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by xpiher
    Originally posted by znaiika

    So desperate? already? I feel sorry for developers, this project will loose a lot of money, that what happen to PvP oriented games and nail in the head is fool loot, plus, 12 year old graphics and animations.

    This game is not that interesting to spend money for it.

    Games that only spend their time on PvE are what leads to games going f2p after the first year of their existence. The industry as a whole is complete sh** The only developers that seem to have anything at all going for them are ANET, because they are able to release new content to keep the content locus happy and CCP. Everyone else makes the same crappy games that we've been playing for years, with a few independent developers that don't have the funding to keep things going (AV, SV, Masthead, etc)

    Are you sure that it's free to play? " cash shop ".

    All games are set to get gear from farming mobs, that is the problem, because,

    1) content consumed very fast.

    2) fast leveling.

    3) developers are lazy, they don't want to spent time to develop crafting system.

    4) housing, most games don't have any, some that have housing, are limited on what you can do with them, you should have to build your house bit by bit, not a whole box in five seconds, to build a box of the house should take several weeks of your real   time and consumed a lot of resources which you must feed a whole time, and probably have to hire a few helpers.

    That being said, over all, content consumed too fast and players have nothing to do while developers working on new content.

    That is the biggest problem with today MMO PVE oriented games.

  • GitmixGitmix Member UncommonPosts: 605
    Best oldschool MMO on the market atm imo (asides from EvE maybe but I haven't played that). It's back to the MMO roots with DFUW: vast open world, no invisible walls, no carebear limitations and...alot, alot, alot of grind :D
  • KshahdooKshahdoo Member Posts: 553


    Originally posted by Slappy1
    It does not make it a good game,sorry.You can hope all you want.

    Well, if you don't play the game, it doesn't mean it sucks. But it obviously means you suck in it.

  • Nekky_FateNekky_Fate Member UncommonPosts: 162
    Terrible game, I paid for the beta and uninstalled shortly after that. Huge waste of money.
  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987

    If you're new and looking at DF don't hesitate. If you consider yourself a true gamer you want to experience it yourself and create your own opinion. Don't let the haters drag you down.

    Sure it's a good chance you won't be able to handle full loot open world sandbox, but hey at least you'll know what it is.

     

    2nd month in and I'm still having loads of fun every day. Lots of stuff to do, lots of adrenalin and lots of drama keeps you playing, just sink it in :)

  • MkilbrideMkilbride Member UncommonPosts: 643

    Oh what, so now people who don't like Darkfall aren't true gamers?

     

    There's nothing oldschool about DFUW besides full loot.

    Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

  • LustmordLustmord Member UncommonPosts: 1,114
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    Oh what, so now people who don't like Darkfall aren't true gamers?

     

    There's nothing oldschool about DFUW besides full loot.

     

    You troll Darkfall pretty hard for a guy who doesn't realize that Camelot Unchained is going to be a huge flop.

     

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    Uhm, it died already.

     

    DF1 died, DFUW was a quick reboot in an attempt for a cash grab, using 80% re-used assets and re-charging owners of DF1.

     

    So yeah, it will die. I say two years this time around. Maybe three if they clean up their act.

     

    They are fucked though. IF they go F2P, their hardcore fanbase will desert them and it will die.  If they don't, their small fanbase will dwindle and the sub fees won't be enough to keep up with the costs.

    i got charged the sub price

     

  • BjarkaBjarka Member Posts: 11

    You got to buy this game beacause AV time after time tells you that they will implement this and that and then pospone it time and again - how many times has the dungeons been posponed after they several times said they where to come at this and this date and that they were ready?

     

    I have been playing this game 2 month...not supporting AV anymore...this is DF1-lies all over again.

  • MkilbrideMkilbride Member UncommonPosts: 643
    Originally posted by Lustmord
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    Oh what, so now people who don't like Darkfall aren't true gamers?

     

    There's nothing oldschool about DFUW besides full loot.

     

    You troll Darkfall pretty hard for a guy who doesn't realize that Camelot Unchained is going to be a huge flop.

     

     

    Could be, could be a fun game. Darkfall is a huge flop, but you seem to enjoy it, no?

    Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained

  • stormseekazstormseekaz Member UncommonPosts: 168
    Originally posted by Asheram
    I bought the game once already, have no intentions of paying full price for it again. Maybe if the price drops to what a sub costs I will try it and see what has changed but til then have fun.

     Word.  Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.

  • xpiherxpiher Member UncommonPosts: 3,310
    Originally posted by stormseekaz
    Originally posted by Asheram
    I bought the game once already, have no intentions of paying full price for it again. Maybe if the price drops to what a sub costs I will try it and see what has changed but til then have fun.

     Word.  Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.

    Its a new game that required new development. What do you except? 

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    Xpiher's GW2
    GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
    Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
    AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
    Warhammer - Xpiher

  • Sk1ppeRSk1ppeR Member Posts: 511
    Nop, I want it to stop scam people and go F2P already :P
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by xpiher
    Originally posted by stormseekaz
    Originally posted by Asheram
    I bought the game once already, have no intentions of paying full price for it again. Maybe if the price drops to what a sub costs I will try it and see what has changed but til then have fun.

     Word.  Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.

    Its a new game that required new development. What do you except? 

    except, it isnt. or are you suggesting that the game is not based on the original coding that was used in DF, they may have jiggled things around a bit, and upgraded the graphics, but at its core, its the same game. image

  • Sk1ppeRSk1ppeR Member Posts: 511
    Originally posted by xpiher
    Originally posted by stormseekaz
    Originally posted by Asheram
    I bought the game once already, have no intentions of paying full price for it again. Maybe if the price drops to what a sub costs I will try it and see what has changed but til then have fun.

     Word.  Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.

    Its a new game that required new development. What do you except? 

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    Which MMO in recent history did what DFUW is doing - e.g. screwing customers over. I play MMOs for years, premium ones as well (not F2P) and I have never been asked to pay the box price twice. This is a scam! I respect my money and this company won't get any of it. Even though I'll probably go out tonight and waste twice the box price on alcohol, It would be much better than giving it on DFUW. Just my 2 cents

     

    P.S: It is "expect" not "except" ^_^ 

  • GitmixGitmix Member UncommonPosts: 605
    Originally posted by Mkilbride

    There's nothing oldschool about DFUW besides full loot.

    You're clueless.

    DFUW has:

    -no mob tagging

    -no loot tagging,

    -no instancing or phasing,

    -no gear binding,

    -no free and easy transportation,

    -encumbrance,

    -fog of war,

    -HUGE crafting grind.

    Just about everything in DFUW besides combat is 100% oldschool.

     

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