You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.
The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.
Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!
You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.
The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.
This. ^^ Same unfinished/unpolished problems as DF1, by the same company that did a poor job with many things last time. Only this time, AV significantly changed the core gameplay from DF1, so many of the people that could tolerate the problems of DF1 because they liked it, won't do so now.
Let me list off what few other games do that Darkfall does:
FPS
Full loot
Player items are the best - no dungeon raiding for l33t sword of stupidness
City sieges with real destructible items that cost to rebuild.
True player driven economy - no developer driven prices, no developer driven inflation (look at GW2 for dev driven inflation)
Destructible boats and real piracy
Progression is fast
AV has more info going to its players than any other game developers game (amazing communication in comparison to almost every other game on the market) - Crazy improvement over where they used to be.
It's on STEAM and is the first game that you can pay the monthly fee through Steam!
It has a monthly fee to keep the game fair (no pay to win)
Small dev team that actually listens to its players! Prowess system was player driven idea, not developer. Who else would change the fundamentals of the game for players?
Fast on support tickets. Get answers within hours.
Player driven politics and clan warfare. Strong enough clan can claim territory if they wanted by physical means (kill everyone)
Safe zones for new players.
I could go on and on with the good things... however I have to go to my city to remove people that are camping it with my clan.
I don't know if the OP is trolling or not, if not paid to post then the OP certainly likes this game. However his/her facts are suspect as Mkilbride said:
You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.
The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.
Makes me wonder about the rest of the OP's claims… But if this is an honest post by the OP, then good luck to you, however I will not be buying this game.
You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.
The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.
So desperate? already? I feel sorry for developers, this project will loose a lot of money, that what happen to PvP oriented games and nail in the head is fool loot, plus, 12 year old graphics and animations.
This game is not that interesting to spend money for it.
So desperate? already? I feel sorry for developers, this project will loose a lot of money, that what happen to PvP oriented games and nail in the head is fool loot, plus, 12 year old graphics and animations.
This game is not that interesting to spend money for it.
Games that only spend their time on PvE are what leads to games going f2p after the first year of their existence. The industry as a whole is complete sh** The only developers that seem to have anything at all going for them are ANET, because they are able to release new content to keep the content locus happy and CCP. Everyone else makes the same crappy games that we've been playing for years, with a few independent developers that don't have the funding to keep things going (AV, SV, Masthead, etc)
So desperate? already? I feel sorry for developers, this project will loose a lot of money, that what happen to PvP oriented games and nail in the head is fool loot, plus, 12 year old graphics and animations.
This game is not that interesting to spend money for it.
Games that only spend their time on PvE are what leads to games going f2p after the first year of their existence. The industry as a whole is complete sh** The only developers that seem to have anything at all going for them are ANET, because they are able to release new content to keep the content locus happy and CCP. Everyone else makes the same crappy games that we've been playing for years, with a few independent developers that don't have the funding to keep things going (AV, SV, Masthead, etc)
Are you sure that it's free to play? " cash shop ".
All games are set to get gear from farming mobs, that is the problem, because,
1) content consumed very fast.
2) fast leveling.
3) developers are lazy, they don't want to spent time to develop crafting system.
4) housing, most games don't have any, some that have housing, are limited on what you can do with them, you should have to build your house bit by bit, not a whole box in five seconds, to build a box of the house should take several weeks of your real time and consumed a lot of resources which you must feed a whole time, and probably have to hire a few helpers.
That being said, over all, content consumed too fast and players have nothing to do while developers working on new content.
That is the biggest problem with today MMO PVE oriented games.
Best oldschool MMO on the market atm imo (asides from EvE maybe but I haven't played that). It's back to the MMO roots with DFUW: vast open world, no invisible walls, no carebear limitations and...alot, alot, alot of grind
If you're new and looking at DF don't hesitate. If you consider yourself a true gamer you want to experience it yourself and create your own opinion. Don't let the haters drag you down.
Sure it's a good chance you won't be able to handle full loot open world sandbox, but hey at least you'll know what it is.
2nd month in and I'm still having loads of fun every day. Lots of stuff to do, lots of adrenalin and lots of drama keeps you playing, just sink it in
DF1 died, DFUW was a quick reboot in an attempt for a cash grab, using 80% re-used assets and re-charging owners of DF1.
So yeah, it will die. I say two years this time around. Maybe three if they clean up their act.
They are fucked though. IF they go F2P, their hardcore fanbase will desert them and it will die. If they don't, their small fanbase will dwindle and the sub fees won't be enough to keep up with the costs.
You got to buy this game beacause AV time after time tells you that they will implement this and that and then pospone it time and again - how many times has the dungeons been posponed after they several times said they where to come at this and this date and that they were ready?
I have been playing this game 2 month...not supporting AV anymore...this is DF1-lies all over again.
Originally posted by Asheram I bought the game once already, have no intentions of paying full price for it again. Maybe if the price drops to what a sub costs I will try it and see what has changed but til then have fun.
Word. Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.
Originally posted by Asheram I bought the game once already, have no intentions of paying full price for it again. Maybe if the price drops to what a sub costs I will try it and see what has changed but til then have fun.
Word. Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.
Its a new game that required new development. What do you except?
Originally posted by Asheram I bought the game once already, have no intentions of paying full price for it again. Maybe if the price drops to what a sub costs I will try it and see what has changed but til then have fun.
Word. Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.
Its a new game that required new development. What do you except?
except, it isnt. or are you suggesting that the game is not based on the original coding that was used in DF, they may have jiggled things around a bit, and upgraded the graphics, but at its core, its the same game.
Originally posted by Asheram I bought the game once already, have no intentions of paying full price for it again. Maybe if the price drops to what a sub costs I will try it and see what has changed but til then have fun.
Word. Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.
Its a new game that required new development. What do you except?
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Which MMO in recent history did what DFUW is doing - e.g. screwing customers over. I play MMOs for years, premium ones as well (not F2P) and I have never been asked to pay the box price twice. This is a scam! I respect my money and this company won't get any of it. Even though I'll probably go out tonight and waste twice the box price on alcohol, It would be much better than giving it on DFUW. Just my 2 cents
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You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.
The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.
Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained
Savezones sucks and it's half of what Darkfall 1 was no thanks.
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
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OS:Windows 10 64bit
I don't know if the OP is trolling or not, if not paid to post then the OP certainly likes this game. However his/her facts are suspect as Mkilbride said:
You go to the forums, #1 complaint? AV lacks communication. Servers are down for a week? Not a word. Hackers? Not a word. Missed their development schedule? not a word. It's horrible over there.
The amount of communication AV has with it's customers is the least I've ever seen, even a Korean F2P one has more.
Makes me wonder about the rest of the OP's claims… But if this is an honest post by the OP, then good luck to you, however I will not be buying this game.
#1 complaint on forums is lack of content.
Servers were never down for a week.
Cheaters are banned and names are published at unholybanhammer.com
It's horrible having to read the trashy lies you fabricate to smear a game you never even played.
AV's communication has improved tremendously. Here, read about thier plans for the next 8 weeks.
Yes there were, was all over the forums, Youtube, and here.
They already missed their schedule.
Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained
So desperate? already? I feel sorry for developers, this project will loose a lot of money, that what happen to PvP oriented games and nail in the head is fool loot, plus, 12 year old graphics and animations.
This game is not that interesting to spend money for it.
Games that only spend their time on PvE are what leads to games going f2p after the first year of their existence. The industry as a whole is complete sh** The only developers that seem to have anything at all going for them are ANET, because they are able to release new content to keep the content locus happy and CCP. Everyone else makes the same crappy games that we've been playing for years, with a few independent developers that don't have the funding to keep things going (AV, SV, Masthead, etc)
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
Are you sure that it's free to play? " cash shop ".
All games are set to get gear from farming mobs, that is the problem, because,
1) content consumed very fast.
2) fast leveling.
3) developers are lazy, they don't want to spent time to develop crafting system.
4) housing, most games don't have any, some that have housing, are limited on what you can do with them, you should have to build your house bit by bit, not a whole box in five seconds, to build a box of the house should take several weeks of your real time and consumed a lot of resources which you must feed a whole time, and probably have to hire a few helpers.
That being said, over all, content consumed too fast and players have nothing to do while developers working on new content.
That is the biggest problem with today MMO PVE oriented games.
Well, if you don't play the game, it doesn't mean it sucks. But it obviously means you suck in it.
If you're new and looking at DF don't hesitate. If you consider yourself a true gamer you want to experience it yourself and create your own opinion. Don't let the haters drag you down.
Sure it's a good chance you won't be able to handle full loot open world sandbox, but hey at least you'll know what it is.
2nd month in and I'm still having loads of fun every day. Lots of stuff to do, lots of adrenalin and lots of drama keeps you playing, just sink it in
Oh what, so now people who don't like Darkfall aren't true gamers?
There's nothing oldschool about DFUW besides full loot.
Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained
You troll Darkfall pretty hard for a guy who doesn't realize that Camelot Unchained is going to be a huge flop.
i got charged the sub price
You got to buy this game beacause AV time after time tells you that they will implement this and that and then pospone it time and again - how many times has the dungeons been posponed after they several times said they where to come at this and this date and that they were ready?
I have been playing this game 2 month...not supporting AV anymore...this is DF1-lies all over again.
Could be, could be a fun game. Darkfall is a huge flop, but you seem to enjoy it, no?
Help get Camelot Unchained made, a old-school MMORPG, with no hand holding!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13861848/camelot-unchained
Word. Adventurine asking us to pay for the game a second time just because we "didn't pre-order DF:UW on time" is bs and I hope their company fails for treating their customers so poorly.
Its a new game that required new development. What do you except?
Games:
Currently playing:Nothing
Will play: Darkfall: Unholy Wars
Past games:
Guild Wars 2 - Xpiher Duminous
Xpiher's GW2
GW 1 - Xpiher Duminous
Darkfall - Xpiher Duminous (NA) retired
AoC - Xpiher (Tyranny) retired
Warhammer - Xpiher
except, it isnt. or are you suggesting that the game is not based on the original coding that was used in DF, they may have jiggled things around a bit, and upgraded the graphics, but at its core, its the same game.
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Which MMO in recent history did what DFUW is doing - e.g. screwing customers over. I play MMOs for years, premium ones as well (not F2P) and I have never been asked to pay the box price twice. This is a scam! I respect my money and this company won't get any of it. Even though I'll probably go out tonight and waste twice the box price on alcohol, It would be much better than giving it on DFUW. Just my 2 cents
P.S: It is "expect" not "except" ^_^
You're clueless.
DFUW has:
-no mob tagging
-no loot tagging,
-no instancing or phasing,
-no gear binding,
-no free and easy transportation,
-encumbrance,
-fog of war,
-HUGE crafting grind.
Just about everything in DFUW besides combat is 100% oldschool.