Breasts, naked bodies, etc there is nothing wrong with any of that, unless its only purpose is to exploit. There are lots of games that use the female body to titilate its male players giving unrealistic and unhealthy expectations of how women should look and act. None of those games are doing a service to anyone.
SB exploits women to a whole new level comparatively, which is why its singled out more often.
Its sort of funny that because Devs make games like this, it chases real women away from the genre thereby limiting the chance for guys to interact with them. Or maybe to many male gamers are just afraid of actual woman, so the Devs give them a safe alternative. In either case I don't see it as a good thing.
The review itself seemed like more an editorial. I didn't learn much about the game. It mentioned the two factions, but were the classes named?
Dear reviewer: please, for the love of God, learn how to use a comma properly.
Furthermore, we all understand just how much you find this "shameful and degrading." As stated before, it is a terrible game but not for subjectively moral reasons.
The game is a POS in more ways than one. In many ways it's just another over-the-top eastern MMO with the typical bizarre story line, cash shop, etc. This one just lowers the bar a bit by selling boobies more blatantly than most.
It's not that it's all that pornographic--certainly not so in the age of sexting and youporn--but its deliberate appeal to horny teens everywhere makes it pretty niche doesn't it? It's a guilty pleasure for the same 13-year-olds who are into hentai porn. Just something else to hide from their parents...big deal.
The real shameful and degrading thing is all the MMO sites who took their advertising $$$, plastered their obnoxious titillation all over their front page for months and then after all that money is safely in the bank write with self-righteous indignation about it. We all knew what a POS it was but that didn't stop you from making it the feature ad in the best ad spaces for months did it?
Shameful and degrading? Sure, you bet. But MMORPG.COM was party to it and got shamed and degraded by it much more than anyone else.
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Originally posted by Mtibbs1989 A bit late of the review don't you think? I think everyone here on MMORPG.COM has discussed the whole Scarlet Blade thing to death and back. Too slow guys... pick up the speed!
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there's not a straight male here that hasn't looked at some porn so let's not get on our moral high horses.
the game is what it is, and it's within a fantasy context.
so now the moral police wants to control our thoughts and fantasy?
i like to look at the female form and fantasize about it, i'm not going to apologize for that.
i'm not going to play this particular game as i'd prefer to look at real females but i can see the appeal in having a sexy female character in a fantasy game and dressing her up and stuff (i usually play females in mmos) so i'm not going to bash those who play it.
also what's up with all these ads of slutty dressed anime characters all over my screen every time i visit this site? how is that any different? over to the left of me i have what appears t be a teenage butt in a tiny little loin cloth right in my view which is whatever but it seems a bit hypocritical to be trashing the game for it but having it plastered on the site.
there's not a straight male here that hasn't looked at some porn so let's not get on our moral high horses.
But this is supposed to be a game, right? I mean, if it was supposed to be porn, they should have labeled it as such.
the game is what it is, and it's within a fantasy context.
Why does fanatasy = scantly clad females?
so now the moral police wants to control our thoughts and fantasy?
Get off the soap box, no one is saying that. It was a review: one man's opinion on a game. No one is calling for a ban on porn or sex in video games.
i like to look at the female form and fantasize about it, i'm not going to apologize for that.
i'm not going to play this particular game as i'd prefer to look at real females but i can see the appeal in having a sexy female character in a fantasy game and dressing her up and stuff (i usually play females in mmos) so i'm not going to bash those who play it.
Errr sorry man but you just crossed into Mr. Creepers territory. TMI. (my opinion)
also what's up with all these ads of slutty dressed anime characters all over my screen every time i visit this site? how is that any different? over to the left of me i have what appears t be a teenage butt in a tiny little loin cloth right in my view.
The people responsible for the ads are not the same people responsible for the editorial content. This has been stated time and time again.
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
We control the demand for what we use to entertain ourselves with. I for one, think this kind of game goes too far. The degradation this title brings to the genre and gaming in general seems like a low point. It's how the masses react to it that will determine if the market desires more titles of this type, and hopefully, it does not.
Titles like Age of Conan that support an adult theme, do it because in the Conan books, that the game was designed after, it portrayed a gritty look on the fantasy genre. Sorcery mixed with nature and what we look at now as 'private parts' did not have the same meaning in a shamanistic world. Granted, they missed the mark in translating from the novels to the modern crowd and went a more provocative route. But none of it seemed like it was specifically designed to get someone to view it as porn, like Scarlet Blade seems to have been marketed for.
What I find most disturbing, is the designers seem to have Westerners pegged as perverts, and I bet they thought they had a big hit on their hands when they released the game and shamelessly waved their advertisement banners around.
Originally posted by apocoluster If the game offended those at the site so much, why did they take The advertising money. I'm unwilling to believe they are moral paragons now.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. This review doesn't hold much weight because how long have they had the ads up? a month or more? The staff had no objection to do that. But now that they take them down and switch to the next game with sex appeal ads they can slam the game with a high score of 4.7
there's not a straight male here that hasn't looked at some porn so let's not get on our moral high horses.
But this is supposed to be a game, right? I mean, if it was supposed to be porn, they should have labeled it as such.
the game is what it is, and it's within a fantasy context.
Why does fanatasy = scantly clad females?
so now the moral police wants to control our thoughts and fantasy?
Get off the soap box, no one is saying that. It was a review: one man's opinion on a game. No one is calling for a ban on porn or sex in video games.
i like to look at the female form and fantasize about it, i'm not going to apologize for that.
i'm not going to play this particular game as i'd prefer to look at real females but i can see the appeal in having a sexy female character in a fantasy game and dressing her up and stuff (i usually play females in mmos) so i'm not going to bash those who play it.
Errr sorry man but you just crossed into Mr. Creepers territory. TMI. (my opinion)
also what's up with all these ads of slutty dressed anime characters all over my screen every time i visit this site? how is that any different? over to the left of me i have what appears t be a teenage butt in a tiny little loin cloth right in my view.
The people responsible for the ads are not the same people responsible for the editorial content. This has been stated time and time again.
it doesn't matter if they're responsible for the ads, they're involved with the site and so by association.
it can be your opinion that i'm creepy for liking to play female characters and looking/fantasizing at the female form and what not, i'm not going to lose sleep over it.
fantasy doesn't have to equal half naked females but it also can equal that.. i don't see many males fantasizing about an old nun helping out homeless people, i see them fantasizing about hot, slutty dressed females and so male fantasy will usually reflect this in the females, most things involving fantasy have this type of female in it.
comic characters, anime, etc
so.. it's only degrading and shameful within a game context? i'd think if someone found this degrading and shameful they would find every instance of it similarly (which there is alot of it all over, in every medium) and i wouldn't believe these same people haven't looked at it in other mediums or in their fantasies thought about it, etc.
Worthless review written by someone that was not the target audience and no doubt for some reason still loved Age of Conan that had bare boobs, depicted rape, and overall stated that women were nothing more than items to be used and discarded...and that game was serious about it unlike this one which is all humor based.
This article was more shameful than the game...BTW, pornographic? Seriously? Is this the 1960s? Nipples are not porn.
Great response, how can anyone com plain about SB and then praise AOC, oh wait SC is made by Asians.
And that line of Asian churning out MMO's not worthy of support, really has the reviewer had blinkers on for the last 5 years with western MMO's?
Funny because AA has mass support.
The reviewer sounds like he/she has a problem with Asians rather than any game.
You publish articles like this (where the guy is clearly trying to be PC in order to appeal to the feminazis), yet not 3 inches to the left of the text box I'm typing in there is what appears to be a borderline underaged girl drawn in the anime style with her butt featured rather prominently.
Oh, and need I mention the nearly month-long run of ads for the very game being reviewed, and this despite the fact that a lot of people protested their presence?
Seems like this site and its contributors are only offended by things which they're not getting paid for. To me that's more disgusting & offensive than any game like Scarlet Blade could ever be.
It's a sad day indeed when a family is too afraid of reprisals to publicly thank somebody for saving their lives.
You publish articles like this (where the guy is clearly trying to be PC in order to appeal to the feminazis), yet not 3 inches to the left of the text box I'm typing in there is what appears to be a borderline underaged girl drawn in the anime style with her butt featured rather prominently.
Oh, and need I mention the nearly month-long run of ads for the very game being reviewed, and this despite the fact that a lot of people protested their presence?
Seems like this site and its contributors are only offended by things which they're not getting paid for. To me that's more disgusting & offensive than any game like Scarlet Blade could ever be.
haha.
exactly! it's hard to take such a thing seriously in that context.
if someone is that offended by half naked females simply avoid such things, imo.
but i got news for those people, alot of males have liked half naked females, and naked females, and fully clothed females (and it will continue to be reflected in fantasy) before we were here and will long after we're gone... i can guarantee that isn't going to change, so my advice would be to avoid/ignore such things if you can't handle it.
If the game offended those at the site so much, why did they take The advertising money. I'm unwilling to believe they are moral paragons now.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. This review doesn't hold much weight because how long have they had the ads up? a month or more? The staff had no objection to do that. But now that they take them down and switch to the next game with sex appeal ads they can slam the game with a high score of 4.7
I'm going to go ahead and tell you why you're wrong. The one reviewing this game had nothing to do with the advertisement nor did the rest of the staff. It was a stuffy man in a suit somewhere who is now enjoying an extra mean cigar because of his choice to sell MMO sex to us. This has been stated before.
And to the rest of this argument that has seemed to follow in the responses.....Objectivity? You're really pulling that one out in this instance. We're talking about flaunting tits about in a very obvious and purposeful manner and you're expecting someone to be objective about its invasion into every crevice of the game. If one were to be objective about that subject when related to this game one could only say " There are an amazing amount of tits in this game and people often enjoy tits. However some don't enjoy tits at all times and in all forms of entertainment. This isn't to say that one couldn't stomach seeing a tit every now and then in all forms of entertainment, but honestly there are only so many tits one can see before a tit becomes like any other lump of matter. This isn't insulting tits, its insulting the frequency and omission of other content in favor of more tits."
It is good to be objective in all matters however it's best to use it in the serious tone that some of you heathens have been using it when referring to matters of life and death, not tits and ass.
I think the female form is fine in this game. It's been said over and over again already that who cares about half naked females that is NOT the problem with the game.
It's simply the mechanics and the "meat" or "core" of the game that is the problem. I beta'd this game and could only play for about 15 mins before deleting it because it was just another themepark MMO that had no soul to it. No differentiation or anything to make make it stand out as "Whoa Ive never seen that before"
The only thing I can say was good about this game was the boob and ass "jiggle" physics which i think should be replicated into every game form here on out. It is realistic and what happens when girls move around so it adds move immersiveness.
Outside of the "jiggle" physics everything else about this game should be allowed to fizzle out and die/disappear to never be brought up again.
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Breasts, naked bodies, etc there is nothing wrong with any of that, unless its only purpose is to exploit. There are lots of games that use the female body to titilate its male players giving unrealistic and unhealthy expectations of how women should look and act. None of those games are doing a service to anyone.
SB exploits women to a whole new level comparatively, which is why its singled out more often.
Its sort of funny that because Devs make games like this, it chases real women away from the genre thereby limiting the chance for guys to interact with them. Or maybe to many male gamers are just afraid of actual woman, so the Devs give them a safe alternative. In either case I don't see it as a good thing.
The review itself seemed like more an editorial. I didn't learn much about the game. It mentioned the two factions, but were the classes named?
Dear reviewer: please, for the love of God, learn how to use a comma properly.
Furthermore, we all understand just how much you find this "shameful and degrading." As stated before, it is a terrible game but not for subjectively moral reasons.
The game is a POS in more ways than one. In many ways it's just another over-the-top eastern MMO with the typical bizarre story line, cash shop, etc. This one just lowers the bar a bit by selling boobies more blatantly than most.
It's not that it's all that pornographic--certainly not so in the age of sexting and youporn--but its deliberate appeal to horny teens everywhere makes it pretty niche doesn't it? It's a guilty pleasure for the same 13-year-olds who are into hentai porn. Just something else to hide from their parents...big deal.
The real shameful and degrading thing is all the MMO sites who took their advertising $$$, plastered their obnoxious titillation all over their front page for months and then after all that money is safely in the bank write with self-righteous indignation about it. We all knew what a POS it was but that didn't stop you from making it the feature ad in the best ad spaces for months did it?
Shameful and degrading? Sure, you bet. But MMORPG.COM was party to it and got shamed and degraded by it much more than anyone else.
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Erm...I didn't write the review, only posted the news about it. O.o George Dimmock wrote the review.
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This was a HORRIBLE review, no objectivity or any wisdom AT ALL! Why is this, didnt they bribe you enough?
Shame on you MMORPG.com staff
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Wisdom? Really? This about a video game that uses sex as its main selling point?
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
shameful and degrading? cmon. really?
there's not a straight male here that hasn't looked at some porn so let's not get on our moral high horses.
the game is what it is, and it's within a fantasy context.
so now the moral police wants to control our thoughts and fantasy?
i like to look at the female form and fantasize about it, i'm not going to apologize for that.
i'm not going to play this particular game as i'd prefer to look at real females but i can see the appeal in having a sexy female character in a fantasy game and dressing her up and stuff (i usually play females in mmos) so i'm not going to bash those who play it.
also what's up with all these ads of slutty dressed anime characters all over my screen every time i visit this site? how is that any different? over to the left of me i have what appears t be a teenage butt in a tiny little loin cloth right in my view which is whatever but it seems a bit hypocritical to be trashing the game for it but having it plastered on the site.
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
We control the demand for what we use to entertain ourselves with. I for one, think this kind of game goes too far. The degradation this title brings to the genre and gaming in general seems like a low point. It's how the masses react to it that will determine if the market desires more titles of this type, and hopefully, it does not.
Titles like Age of Conan that support an adult theme, do it because in the Conan books, that the game was designed after, it portrayed a gritty look on the fantasy genre. Sorcery mixed with nature and what we look at now as 'private parts' did not have the same meaning in a shamanistic world. Granted, they missed the mark in translating from the novels to the modern crowd and went a more provocative route. But none of it seemed like it was specifically designed to get someone to view it as porn, like Scarlet Blade seems to have been marketed for.
What I find most disturbing, is the designers seem to have Westerners pegged as perverts, and I bet they thought they had a big hit on their hands when they released the game and shamelessly waved their advertisement banners around.
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This was the perfect reply. Inigo Montoya knows all.
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. This review doesn't hold much weight because how long have they had the ads up? a month or more? The staff had no objection to do that. But now that they take them down and switch to the next game with sex appeal ads they can slam the game with a high score of 4.7
it doesn't matter if they're responsible for the ads, they're involved with the site and so by association.
it can be your opinion that i'm creepy for liking to play female characters and looking/fantasizing at the female form and what not, i'm not going to lose sleep over it.
fantasy doesn't have to equal half naked females but it also can equal that.. i don't see many males fantasizing about an old nun helping out homeless people, i see them fantasizing about hot, slutty dressed females and so male fantasy will usually reflect this in the females, most things involving fantasy have this type of female in it.
comic characters, anime, etc
so.. it's only degrading and shameful within a game context? i'd think if someone found this degrading and shameful they would find every instance of it similarly (which there is alot of it all over, in every medium) and i wouldn't believe these same people haven't looked at it in other mediums or in their fantasies thought about it, etc.
Great response, how can anyone com plain about SB and then praise AOC, oh wait SC is made by Asians.
And that line of Asian churning out MMO's not worthy of support, really has the reviewer had blinkers on for the last 5 years with western MMO's?
Funny because AA has mass support.
The reviewer sounds like he/she has a problem with Asians rather than any game.
Bet she/he loved AOC though, right OP
You publish articles like this (where the guy is clearly trying to be PC in order to appeal to the feminazis), yet not 3 inches to the left of the text box I'm typing in there is what appears to be a borderline underaged girl drawn in the anime style with her butt featured rather prominently.
Oh, and need I mention the nearly month-long run of ads for the very game being reviewed, and this despite the fact that a lot of people protested their presence?
Seems like this site and its contributors are only offended by things which they're not getting paid for. To me that's more disgusting & offensive than any game like Scarlet Blade could ever be.
It's a sad day indeed when a family is too afraid of reprisals to publicly thank somebody for saving their lives.
Why even post that rubbish then if you don't share the original reviewers views?
haha.
exactly! it's hard to take such a thing seriously in that context.
if someone is that offended by half naked females simply avoid such things, imo.
but i got news for those people, alot of males have liked half naked females, and naked females, and fully clothed females (and it will continue to be reflected in fantasy) before we were here and will long after we're gone... i can guarantee that isn't going to change, so my advice would be to avoid/ignore such things if you can't handle it.
I'm going to go ahead and tell you why you're wrong. The one reviewing this game had nothing to do with the advertisement nor did the rest of the staff. It was a stuffy man in a suit somewhere who is now enjoying an extra mean cigar because of his choice to sell MMO sex to us. This has been stated before.
And to the rest of this argument that has seemed to follow in the responses.....Objectivity? You're really pulling that one out in this instance. We're talking about flaunting tits about in a very obvious and purposeful manner and you're expecting someone to be objective about its invasion into every crevice of the game. If one were to be objective about that subject when related to this game one could only say " There are an amazing amount of tits in this game and people often enjoy tits. However some don't enjoy tits at all times and in all forms of entertainment. This isn't to say that one couldn't stomach seeing a tit every now and then in all forms of entertainment, but honestly there are only so many tits one can see before a tit becomes like any other lump of matter. This isn't insulting tits, its insulting the frequency and omission of other content in favor of more tits."
It is good to be objective in all matters however it's best to use it in the serious tone that some of you heathens have been using it when referring to matters of life and death, not tits and ass.
I think the female form is fine in this game. It's been said over and over again already that who cares about half naked females that is NOT the problem with the game.
It's simply the mechanics and the "meat" or "core" of the game that is the problem. I beta'd this game and could only play for about 15 mins before deleting it because it was just another themepark MMO that had no soul to it. No differentiation or anything to make make it stand out as "Whoa Ive never seen that before"
The only thing I can say was good about this game was the boob and ass "jiggle" physics which i think should be replicated into every game form here on out. It is realistic and what happens when girls move around so it adds move immersiveness.
Outside of the "jiggle" physics everything else about this game should be allowed to fizzle out and die/disappear to never be brought up again.