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Rift now pay to win
Literally within 5 minutes of reaching level 60 (max atm) you can buy all the gear you need to raid. I thought we weren't going pay to win Trion? what happened there? I know you can buy your PvP kit as well not sure what impact that will have, but I am sure it won't be all that great.
Why sell gear at all? It is so unnecessary, sell mounts, pets, wardrobe and dimension (think housing) items and you will make heaps. But selling start raiding armor and weapons, to me that is exactly what paytowin is.
Just my opinions, I am sure most will disagree, but this game, just broke for me.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
They've stated before that they're only selling entry-level raiding gear on the cash shop for those who'd like to catch up to their friends, or newer content a little quicker.
You still have to work for the best gear in the game even if you buy the gear.
I agree the gear sale sucks even if it is not the final set....
I wish there was a way to identify players who buy their gear so I can point at them and laugh at them.
"Hey Bob, I see you paid for your gear. Way to go man. You're pretty pro."
I am entitled to my opinion whenever I feel like expressing it. If you disagree that is fine I welcome your point of view. I will not however, remain silent when I have something to say, there are many tools on this forum if you do not like what I have to say, and you are free to sue them.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
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its normal dungeon gear. not even expert mode. you think you can raid in RIFT with normal dungeon gear? [mod edit]
lol that would be funny. Everything else about the game I like, more or less, but this was a ridiculous move imo. Selling gear never ends well.
To the ones that say its just starter, yeah it lets you skip all the expert dungeons...do you know the other reason(s) for running experts? To learn some boss mechanics, to learn to play your toon etc etc. Leveling and raiding are way different specs...unless you have no clue about either.
Anyway, yeah pay2win(ish) is about as far as I will bend on this one.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
To each their own. I hope you find a game you enjoy. I see no problem with selling entry gear. Not everyone has the advantage of being in a good guild, or having dealt with the wonders of the LFG system.
so dont play it. no one forces you. its so simple.
Oh look - it's the mandatory "This game is p2w!!!! Oh Noes!" thread.
You don't "win" in an mmo, and you don't have to pay for anything if you don't want to.
The absolute worst argument you can ever make to support your opinion...." I am entitled to it "
and i respect that, but it jsut started give sometime, and u still dont like play another game its simple as that
He's just as entitled to his opinion as the fanboys are. Get over it.
I personally don't have a problem with entry level gear being sold. The game has been established for a while and even the f2p conversion isn't necessarily going to bring enough new blood in to make getting that entry gear easy. It would be nicer yes, to have instead created some incentive for people to run those lower level dungeons, but there really isn't enough of one even with the rewards already there. At least now, if people want, they can skip the content people aren't playing in the first place and get right to raiding with friends.
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+1
I'd like to see someone rush to 60, buy all that gear and actually use it.
Because with the rep restrictions in place it's impossible to do.
Then.. I'd like to see someone buy gear from that shop that is better than elite dungeon gear, top tier Planar gear and top tier PvP gear.
That's also impossible... never mind the Raid gear.
I'm actually looking forward to earning my gear. I'll never understand why people feel it necessary to pay to skip stuff to get to "end game". No wonder people are bored...they are skipping the game...
To be fair, that is not what he is doing. He is basically saying he has a right to post a gripe. He is not using the statement to support his argument...
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
Good point Arakazi - gaming is getting so easy mode any more, just buy your way to win is what it seems like. Sheesh buy gear, get a mod to tell what skill to use and where to stand in a dungeon...Anyway, yeah it sucks I was having fun, this though, half my guild is quitting it looks like. Not that it matters, I am sure they will replace us quickly with over night 60's and easy to get kit, but it is still a bit of a let down.
Oh Well, on to the next thing lol.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
Sometimes I wonder if the people that come to this site and moan and gripe about "pay to win" and this and that are actually just upset because they didn't just buy the stuff in the first place.
The effect this has overall seems so small I don't see why we need thread after thread of such and such game being pay to win...
That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!
The term p2w really is being thrown around like nobody's business isn't it? An example of a true Pay to Win game is Allods and Perfect World, games that force you to actually pay to get anywhere past a certain point or be decent. Pretty sure this doesn't apply to the term, it's more like pay to be lazy. It shouldn't effect anyone but that player, especially if it's entry level.
But whatever, I guess being dramatic is more fun.