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Shoko_Lied
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Will staying a class as your main until 50 be viable? IE: Being conjurer or lancer at level 50 as opposed to switching to White mage or Dragoon. I'm wondering because I am interested in playing White Mage as a dedicated healer but I'm also interested in what a high level conjurer brings to the table.
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The distinction between job and class ultimately falls into a degree of specialisation. Classes are more versatile thus better suited for solo/small-group play; jobs are highly specialised and thus perfect for dungeons, raids, etc.
There may be certain circumstances in which a class could be more valuable than a job in a party though I imagine they'll be rare. Depending on what you're doing you'll be switching back and forth regularly though.
Your White Mage's level is based on your Conjurer's level so there is nothing a 50 conjurer has that a White Mage can't use.
To be more precise: The White Mage has all the Conjurer's class-specific abilities, plus some additional job-specific abilities. Conjurer's only advantage is the ability to draw abilities from all the other classes, as opposed to just a particular handful while they are White Mage, but that advantage is not really an advantage at all in a group healing situation - you are better off staying as White Mage.
As I understand it.... as you level your conjurer, your white mage levels also.
So if you are lvl 40 conjurer playing solo and level to 44, when you switch (or equip) white mage, your white mage will be lvl 44. If you run dungeons as a white mage to 48, your conjurer is now a 48 as well.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Does this mean that White Mage cannot, or should not surpass Conjurer's level during the initial leveling process?
Again... I just know from what I read...
But no. The level of the white mage and conjurer will always be exactly the same.
The two share the same levels - If you level Conjurer to 50, then choose to equip the White Mage 'soul crystal' for the first time ever, you are now a level 50 White Mage.
If for some reason you wanted to solo most of the way to level cap, then staying as a Conjurer *might* be of some advantage (though that's pretty questionable too), but if you are grouping a lot, like a healer really ought to, then I would unlock White Mage and make the switch asap.
Basically, the White Mage is an item that you click and it transforms you into a White Mage. It's a job stone. When you click the Job Stone you become a White Mage. The White Mage gets 5 abilities that only the White Mage can get. These are hugely specialised abilities that make them perfect for their role in group content.
The Job is always aligned with it's Class. The Job is just an extension of the class, like turning Super Saiyan lol. Because it's aligned they share the same level as the class. So if you are solo'ing as a conjurer, every level you get is also a level for the White Mage. Because they are not two separate entities, the White Mage is just an extension you can toggle on and off. If your Conjurer is level 43, then when you click the White Mage stone, you will be a 43 White Mage.
There ARE many reasons to use CJR over WHM. Levelling as a CJR is far superior to leveling as a WHM because the CJR can get more abilities from other classes than the WHM. Because the WHM gets 5 amazing specialised abilities they balance it by making it unable to get skills from more than one other class.
So if you are out solo questing, it's definitely better to quest as a CJR. That's because they can get damage spells from other classes to kill faster that the WHM can't use. Some examples are: Thunder from Thaumaturge, Ruin and Bio from Arcanist, Raging Strikes from Archer. These offensive spells, in combination with Cleric Stance will make your life much easier, and you can't use these skills whilst you are a White Mage.
When you are entering a dungeon, that is the best time to activate the White Mage stone, because they get 5 really good healing spells. Your role in a party is to heal, to it makes sense to use the better healing spells of the white mage than the better offensive spells of the Conjurer.
Hope you followed all that.
Is artifact armor the best in the game.
Another thing that needs to be brought up is that it's not a straight one for one conversion from Class to Job. You don't just level to a certain level in Conjuror for example then switch to White Mage. There is a secondary class that you must level to 15 as well.
This is the part that is confusing me because I can't find an official place that labels all the classes and secondary classes needed for each job.
I believe you need to be a level 30 conjurer and level 15 gladiator in order to become a white mage, but I'm not 100% sure regarding the Gladiator portion. Can anyone confirm?
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Awesome, thank you! Do you have a link to a current website that shows the up to date listings of the class and secondary classes needed for each job. I've found different websites that show some conflicting/old information and that is why I was not completely sure that Glatiator was the secondary class needed, along with Conjurer, to unlock white mage.
No, but it'll be best from the levels you get it probably until you start replacing it with gear from endgame raids.
This is a massive lie, this is completely false information. You can change between any job or class whenever you want, apart from in the middle of a dungeon or whilst in combat.
These forums have so much false information.
Its starter armor for raids and its the signature armor for the Jobs. Its the armor you see when you first make your character in the cutscene.
He means you won't want to switch back because the artifact armor looks cool :P Not that you can't.
What did I lie about? I never said you couldnt change your job and classes. All I said is when you get your artifact armor, you wont want to go back to just being a class because classes cant wear the armor.
Relax, sir - tkreep never said that you could not switch back to being a class, or switch to any other class, once you specialized in a job.
Yeah mis read it. I put my hands up and apologise for being aggressive. I hope you accept my apologies friend.
I do see a lot of false information flying around and it can be frustrating trying to correct it all the time. I jumped the gun and made a mistake this time but my intentions were good.
As for not wanting to go back to being a class, trust me, WHM is horrible to quest with
Whilst Holy is awesome, it costs soooo much Mana is is more of an OH SH-! kinda spell.
It's much nicer to quest as a CJR as you get attacking spells from ACN and THM, but also some DPS buffs from ARC and some others too, stuff that raises your damage/crit rate etc.
Tbh though, I feel like CJR is the only class this applies to.