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Poll - What if Vanguard actually released properly in 2014 - would you play it?
Margulis
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It's an alternate universe far far away and the horrible launch and quick death of Vanguard never happened...... Actually it never even released and is coming out this upcoming year....... It is in a finished state, not rushed, not full of bugs, and has a large development team that will stay with the game......... and the mmo community in this day and age is wanting more and more something different than the generic themepark clones we have been fed for 10 years.........
Seriously folks, would this game released properly in this day and age not get you excited? I've played so many mmo's where people will talk about things that they wish someone would make in an mmo and I've thought how Vanguard already has that. Yeah in some aspects it was still a theme park but anyone who really played the game knows it was way more than just that.
Update - this is a list of current features Vanguard already has, there seemed to be some confusion over this:
2. No instancing at all in the giant game world
3. Open world housing (also non instanced)
4. Ship building and sailing
5. Fishing that is actually interactive and deep like the crafting system
6. Group focused content
7. Diplomacy system
8. Harvesting system that is interactive and incorporates group harvesting
9. Challenging content, corpse runs, etc.
10. Tons of class and race options.
11. Giant world that creates a sense of wonder and immersion.
12. Over 120 non instanced dungeons
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Not so much the graphics.... But the annimations where the killer for me, if they added gw2 annimations... I would be tempted.
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If the game had any kind of community I'd probably give it a shot (Never have I played the game)
But from what I hear, the features that is has really attracts me, but the lack of population makes me not play the game.
The game they were beginning to develop in beta? Sure I'd play it; however, they wowified the game 1-2 weeks before release, which made it a game I wouldn't pee on if it was on fire.
Ultimately they chose a very poor engine from the start so it really had no chance no matter how much they threw at it but it could have been a lot better then the dung heap it's become these days. Brad McQuaid even came back in an attempt to fix it but quickly found out that both his babies were beyond fixing, inevitably getting fired over it.
Pathfinder may offer a true Vanguard experience but you'd be a fool to hold your breath.
^--- this post is a perfect example of why there's no money in making cutting edge graphics for most developers. Doing so means having to do a graphics overhaul every three years or gamers will reject/leave it, no matter how much they like the gameplay.
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If that were true many, many games would have long since been gone. Graphics get people in the door. Community and gameplay keep them there.
That is why EVE isn't improving the graphics...?
I've been playing VG since it launched. I too always feel sad when I see people posting on here about what they want and knowing VG has just about all of it, but they probably have never and won't ever try it. All because of the bad launch horror stories or now, its age.
I'd hardly call VG wowified. It has both elements of sandboxes and themeparks in it, and it is more quest driven than straight grinding, but it's far from WoW or many of its clones. It does so many things well, and actually not all that many things badly anymore.
The graphics overall are still actually pretty damn good, I think. The graphic design and landscapes/world especially. The character models and animations, though, need updating. But I'm willing to look past those, always have been in games if the gameplay and community are good. Server performance has been an issue for many, although the game has been heavily optimized recently to cut back on all that. The game isn't really the ghost town many believe it to be either, although if you play at really off times it might be pretty sparse.
Apart from those things though, and PvP, which I know some people really do want, and that's fine, VG does so much stuff really well. If the type of game at all interests you, you should at least try it out.
There was actually just a rather large patch to VG yesterday where they did a big round of optimizations and updates, with a new big raid dungeon coming out soon.
Edit: I can't spell apparently.
When it first released I enjoyed it a lot until the bugs became too much- when I tried it latterly it was still fun but receiving too little love from the devs.
So yes if it got updated graphically and a few other tweaks and patches I would play it.
Vanguard was... quite horrible at launch. It really fuels that bias against it. Perhaps if done right I'd enjoy it. In the end though it WAS released before so my bias will keep it as a "Meh". Given it was a new game though I'd think I'm be relatively excited, given they do 'modernize' the game a little... and I mean a little and NOT all the modern stuff they added.
It being themepark at all doesn't bother me. Most people who cry for sandbox don't actually WANT a sandbox, I'd gamble my money on it that a lot would quickly leave a sandbox game due to either having nothing to really do that feels meaningful, or simply falling behind as chances are certain groups would take control and as time goes on that control would only become more and more cemented with very little chance of ever being dethroned EVER without something on their end causing it.
I probably wouldn't play it anymore than I did, and I kept going back hoping for something more. On paper it has almost everything I want. In practice it was just "ok", nothing that was great IMO. A good MMO IMO does something great, VG didn't do anything great, it's like the devs for each feature reached a point and said good enough giving IMO the whole game a feel of meh.
Housing was very limited
Diplomacy while being different from anything else IMO was just boring. Crafting was a button mash.
Harvesting was meh
Quests, dungeons were pretty standard
Classes, some were interesting, some had interesting twists (E.g bard making the songs)- others were just new twists for what we've seen for decades
Models looked ok, animations were not very good IMO
The world did not give me a sense of wonder or immersion