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Most complicated crafting?

reillanreillan Member UncommonPosts: 247
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What game do you think has the most difficult crafting system, not from a resource-gathering standpoint, but from a putting-materials-together standpoint? My previous favorite was Pirates of the Burning Sea, because you had to have a guild working a supply chain to create the big ships available.

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  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385

    DAOC had some of the most complicated--and rewarding--crafting of any game to date, if you include enchanting in the complexity of the system.  Crafted gear was used in combination with gear obtained through PvE activities.  It was powerful enough that you had to use it to be competitive, but accessible enough that you could get competitive gear with a modest effort.  DAOC is dated, though.  The graphics and game need a refresh.

    Star Wars Galaxies was also complex and rewarding for crafters.  Unfortunately, SOE killed it.

    You might be better off looking to non-MMOs for crafting.  The current designs for MMOs attempt to make the features of the game accessible to as many as possible, which means keeping things simple.

  • BenediktBenedikt Member UncommonPosts: 1,406

    depends what you mean by most difficult.

    in wurm it takes a lot of work to craft/build some items or to make really high quality one

    in ryzom you have a lot of options and it is pretty hard to find the right combination of materials

    in vanguard the process itself is pretty punishing, especially if you want to get highest quality item

    in ac2 you have really small chance to get critical success when crafting something .....

  • aspekxaspekx Member UncommonPosts: 2,167

    SWGs crafting system remained fairly intact as i recall, so while SOE may have killed the game overall, they did not ruin the crafting system.

     

    aside from dead games long since passed into memory ... oh wait. 2 more: Vanguard and Ryzom as mentioned above.

     

    all of the above systems were built to also include interdependency amongst crafters and crafting professions. Vanguard's ship building would be a prime example of this.

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  • karmathkarmath Member UncommonPosts: 904

    Anything  challenging or in depth related to economy, community or immersion is sadly a thing of the past. The little billy's dont like it.

     

  • SidJamesSidJames Member UncommonPosts: 66
    Vanguard has probably the most intricate crafting of any mmo i have played.  however even seven years later with a quad core computer and 16 gigs of ram the game still stutters like hell where the engine/code is still broken. Closest to Vanguard would probably be EQ2?
  • KhalathwyrKhalathwyr Member UncommonPosts: 3,133

    If by complicated you mean difficult and a pain in the rear then I'd say EQ2. Crafting as a "mini-game" is crap to me.

     

    If by Complicated you mean tons of depth and choice I'd say SWG. Truly dynamic materials with stats that allowed you to use different raw materials to build a given item that would have different outcomes, along with allowing experimentation on the blueprint to further manipulate it was awesome. Truly the mold from which crafting systems should begin at in concept phase.

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  • kinartkinart Member UncommonPosts: 127
    Anarchy Online also had it quite hard
  • Blazer6992Blazer6992 Member UncommonPosts: 643

    SWG had the best and most complicated crafting system.

     

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