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Lifetime Subscription?
lunatiquez
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I've been hearing things, that there is a possibility of a lifetime subscription.
What do you think of it? How much will you pay for it?
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I believe someone last week said about the preorder/CE controversy: You people are over-reacting we'll know things are bad when they start offering a lifetime subscription.
Edit: From a raw numbers prospective WoW is the only game I've ever subscribed to for over 6 months so for me anything over $90 is likely a losing proposition. While it's possible that ESO is the next big thing for me, I'd rather not bet hundreds of dollars against the odds.
Well at least you feel you got your moneys worth from your LOTRO lifetime sub. I don't feelI have gotten my moneys worth yet and probably never will. Oh well, lesson learned. Never again will I buy a lifetime sub for a game.
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Some people say that you haven't been hearing things.
see what i did there?
If I loved the game and was inclined to buy a lifetime sub, $200-250, so didn't vote as those prices are too high. I am not too interested in ESO though, so I won't be. Just saying if I was, but as people have said, given the rate of p2p going f2p, I wouldn't do it.
Now some of the kickstarters, like CU, I do not see them going f2p, as it is a niche targeted game and a conversion would not work imo, so if you had faith in the project, that is where it might work out for you. They also said if they stop being a p2p, it is because it is closed down, now that I think back. I am not a CU backer, so not trying to work it in, just an example.
Well, let's take it as a rumour, a rumour of a possibility. We shall see in April whether it's true or not.
About the poll, i also think that i should put $200 in the poll, but i can't edit it.
There Is Always Hope!
$200 is about norm for lifetime isn't it? Or around there...so yea. And I would on any game that was worth it. So the question is pointless.
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They should offer a lifetime sub. It's a good way to build community and a good buy if you're a hardcore fan of the game play you will probably at least get your money back.
With that said I doubt I'd buy one for this particular game...If I really loved a game though I'd go lifetime in a heartbeat.
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Even $200 is a lot in this era. If you were to individually buy monthly subs at $15 without any discounts this would amount to 13 months + 1 for buying the game. ESO will need to do something spectacular especially in the section of not yet disclosed PvE endgame to survive that much without going F2P. I have bought the game but i am still not optimistic for it.
I think buying 3 month subs would be far better than gambling on $200.
I absolutely got my money's worth from my lifetime sub to LOTRO. One of the better investments I've made, even if I'm not currently playing it.
Definitely the only game, other than WoW, that would have ever been worth a lifetime sub.
All you have to do is link the Zeni communication you heard and we can find out right now whether it's true you've actually heard things.
I think it would be overly optimistic for a lifetime sub to only cost $200, that is the price after all, or very close to it, of a years sub, or 2x a CE edition of the game, i would expect a lifetime sub to cost at least 3x that possibly 5x, so the question really would be, would people pay $600 - $1000 for a lifetime sub? and why would anyone expect it to be less than this?
I don't think it really matters that much either way as i really doubt that a lifetime sub would be in Zenimax's interest, indications are that they are selling the games various box sets well in pre-orders, so any immediate needs they might have for cash should easily be met by those, that they would need to sell a lifetime sub on the cheap to raise cash also, seems unlikely.
I have bought every lifetime ever offered by any company lotro included and I have always gotten my money's worth, especially on the titles that later convert to F2P, as every one of them give me enough cash shop money per month to buy any expansions or items I desire.
In comparison I have had an active Everquest account for 15 years now that has cost me $2500ish just on the sub, not counting the expansions or item mall purchases.
Lifetime $200-300 vs. a possible 15 year subscription @ $15 a month...
I'll take the lifetime everytime its offered.
It will be free to play in about two to three years anyways. If it's really bad then maybe a year.
What factual sourced information are you basing this on that directly pertains to ESO? Not other games, but the game in question? Also please link sources of ESO financial data, after all you seem so sure, surely you must have numbers directly pertaining to ESO or Beth/ZOS to back up your statement.
I would have answered about $100-$150 - at best. But, really lifetime subs are a rip-off as most games that do this indeed go F2P after some time.
And what's worse is that ESO doing this would be basically them acknowledging that GW2 model of B2P for AAA games is the right one (which is probably true, just charge for Xpacks). Except that you are asked to pay $200+ to "B2P" the game (instead of $40 something for GW2, I am wondering what the defenders of subscription based games have to say about that).
How about asking $500 or even $1000 for a future B2P game then, would it be that much better than ESO then?
Now, if we accept this system of "one off lifetime sub", we are basically saying that either:
1) The game DOESN'T really need those subs to survive in the long term while maintaining quality (1+ year, assuming we pay the equivalent of 1 year of sub at once, for lifetime subscription).
I have an issue with that, as the whole point of subs is (according to some) to ensure "continuous game quality over time", "quality support over time", "quality servers that are expensive", etc. (that's what people here often say)... so by paying a lifetime sub we are then expecting a sudden drop of quality in all areas at the moment the lifetime sub we paid doesn't cover the normal price of a sub any more? (Of course not. This is why subs are BS).
Plus you lose your bargaining power the moment you pay the lifetime sub, thus empowering the developers completely (no way to "protest" any more).
OR
2) The game is basically only worth playing for much less than a year (or the equivalent lifetime sub) and that the developer is trying to get people to pay upfront, as they fear the people are going to leave much before that and would stop paying their sub then.
TL;DR:
- GW2: B2P for $50 => blablabla no sub games are crap
- ESO: B2P for $200 => expensive crap?
I'm wondering how some people will reconcile this contradiction in their mind (and yes, if you want any B2P game to be a better game, I'm sure an extra $150 would absolutely help).
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Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?