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My media preview impression.

UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791

The impression I'm getting after watching the videos and reading the articles is that it's not a bad MMO, but not a very good Elder Scrolls game. 

It doesn't seem as if the media only NDA lift is working out the way Zenimax Online would have liked. 

 

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  • RaunuRaunu Member UncommonPosts: 480
    I feel that most of these press reviewers aren't telling us everything. There are many things that I wish I could post on these boards, but due to the NDA only being dropped for the press, I can't post anything about my experience with the game.

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  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Originally posted by Raunu
    I feel that most of these press reviewers aren't telling us everything. There are many things that I wish I could post on these boards, but due to the NDA only being dropped for the press, I can't post anything about my experience with the game.

    I'm not really sure how that changes what seems to be a rather general consensus of the game so far. 

    The game's going to be put up against previous entries in the series, and it doesn't appear to be holding up very well.  The previewers don't need an extra 200 hours to draw comparisons between this Elder Scrolls game and the previous, or even this MMO as compared to others. 

    The experience in the first 20 hours isn't going to change drastically at some point, except maybe when it comes to doing the AvA stuff.

     

    In the end it's an elder scrolls game and the expectations people are going to have going into it is that it's an elder scrolls game.  What's going to be more likely, people expecting another elder scrolls game, or them expecting a DAoC game? 

    More people have played an elder scrolls game at some point than have ever played DAoC.  If the experience isn't on par with what they got from previous elder scrolls titles, there's going to be a lot of let down.  Because people are expecting an elder scrolls game. 

  • EntinerintEntinerint Member UncommonPosts: 868
    I would go so far to say one of the best MMOs, definitely the best theme park, ever made, and one of the worst TES games save for perhaps Battlespire, Redguard and TES' mobile cousins.
  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Originally posted by Entinerint
    I would go so far to say one of the best MMOs, definitely the best theme park, ever made, and one of the worst TES games save for perhaps Battlespire, Redguard and TES' mobile cousins.

    I haven't been left with a "best" MMO impression, just good.  In fact I've seen some complaints in the previews about some of the MMO aspects of the game, most notably things like social aspects; it sounds as if there are some barriers to just playing with your friends.  I read something about a questionnaire to change phases and such. 

     

    I have yet to actually see anyone point out anything truly great about the game. 

  • ThornrageThornrage Member UncommonPosts: 659
    Originally posted by Uhwop

    I have yet to actually see anyone point out anything truly great about the game. 

    I'm having fun. That is all that matters to me.

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  • SuperNickSuperNick Member UncommonPosts: 460

    Most of the previews are based on a very limited scope of the game.

    It is clearly a game that has a progression built in.. they don't want to throw you the best zones, gear sets and spells at level 5 like some games do.

    Are the starting zones super amazing and blow your socks off? No, not really. They're designed to ease you into it, get you used to the play style while giving you a taste of the cool stuff to come.

    After 15 years of MMOs, ESO is a game I'm looking forward to. It delivers that fun factor for me and frankly that's all I care about. I'm not after some wild innovation, some amazing ground breaking feature that no one else has done before; I'm looking to just have fun and enjoy.

    Honestly these games that attempt some wild revolutionary feature usually end up flopping hard anyway which is why personally I feel like delivering a solid product of enjoyment is what should count; not some gimmicky new feature.

  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Originally posted by DMKano

    One clear thing about the reviews is that the tutorial is on rails and cannot be skipped.

    In angryjoe video they talk about not even being able to leave the zone without completing the quest chain first - thats cringeworthy for a TES game.

     

    Yeah, doesn't sound anything like any of the previous elder scrolls games, does it. 

     

    I have to wonder if having a DAoC guy, who was responsible for injecting the WoW type aspects into that game, make an elder scrolls game was a wise choice. 

    I would think putting someone in charge wanted to make an elder scrolls game, as opposed to a DAoC sequel, would have been the way to go. 

     

  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Originally posted by SuperNick

    Most of the previews are based on a very limited scope of the game.

    It is clearly a game that has a progression built in.. they don't want to throw you the best zones, gear sets and spells at level 5 like some games do.

    Are the starting zones super amazing and blow your socks off? No, not really. They're designed to ease you into it, get you used to the play style while giving you a taste of the cool stuff to come.

    After 15 years of MMOs, ESO is a game I'm looking forward to. It delivers that fun factor for me and frankly that's all I care about. I'm not after some wild innovation, some amazing ground breaking feature that no one else has done before; I'm looking to just have fun and enjoy.

    Honestly these games that attempt some wild revolutionary feature usually end up flopping hard anyway which is why personally I feel like delivering a solid product of enjoyment is what should count; not some gimmicky new feature.

    In every MMO I've played they have all played the same from beginning to end.  The only thing that actually changes is the amount of content you may have access to. 

    Questing isn't going to change, combat isn't going to change, character models aren't going to change, character progression isn't going to change. 

    If people end up finding the beginning of the game lack luster, not only are they likely to find the later half the same it's more likely than not that they won't be sticking around to even find out. 

  • ThornrageThornrage Member UncommonPosts: 659
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Thornrage
    Originally posted by Uhwop

    I have yet to actually see anyone point out anything truly great about the game. 

    I'm having fun. That is all that matters to me.

    Fun is a fleeting subjective thing, you could be having fun for 10 hours and then it just goes poof and you could be bored out of your mind. 

    That's true for just about everything. Your reply makes no sense to me. I will not pass something up just because I may get bored with it later on. So hate on, while I have fun.

    "I don't give a sh*t what other people say. I play what I like and I'll pay to do it too!" - SerialMMOist

  • SandioSandio Member UncommonPosts: 11

    Just like for everything else. Everybody is looking for something else.

    There is no game for evebody.

  • MyrdynnMyrdynn Member RarePosts: 2,483

    pre-order purchased, about all I can say

     

  • hikaru77hikaru77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,123
    The real problem is when people compared TESO with a single player RGP like Skyrim. ¨TESO is a MMO¨.  
  • funyahnsfunyahns Member Posts: 315
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    The real problem is when people compared TESO with a single player RGP like Skyrim. ¨TESO is a MMO¨.  

     They are trying to use Elder Scrolls IP so of course they are going to compare it to that. You wouldn't want them to advertise it as DaoC to people would you?

  • tinoberserktinoberserk Member UncommonPosts: 73
    Originally posted by DMKano
    Originally posted by Thornrage
    Originally posted by Uhwop

    I have yet to actually see anyone point out anything truly great about the game. 

    I'm having fun. That is all that matters to me.

    Fun is a fleeting subjective thing, you could be having fun for 10 hours and then it just goes poof and you could be bored out of your mind.

    Reviews based on fun don't work.

     

     God forbid someone has a little bit of fun with a game . 

  • Neo_LibertyNeo_Liberty Member UncommonPosts: 437
    Originally posted by funyahns
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    The real problem is when people compared TESO with a single player RGP like Skyrim. ¨TESO is a MMO¨.  

     They are trying to use Elder Scrolls IP so of course they are going to compare it to that. You wouldn't want them to advertise it as DaoC to people would you?

    There is a big difference in comparing two gaming experiences for the sake of comparison.. and comparing the two with the sole purpose is to see if it is just like a console /pc sprpg... They are not going to be the same. To say otherwise is to be ignorant.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by Entinerint
    I would go so far to say one of the best MMOs, definitely the best theme park, ever made, and one of the worst TES games save for perhaps Battlespire, Redguard and TES' mobile cousins.

    And that's the root of most negativity. Skyrim comparisons are inevitable. Forget that and it stands on its own just fine.

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  • xpsyncxpsync Member EpicPosts: 1,854
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Originally posted by Entinerint
    I would go so far to say one of the best MMOs, definitely the best theme park, ever made, and one of the worst TES games save for perhaps Battlespire, Redguard and TES' mobile cousins.

    And that's the root of most negativity. Skyrim comparisons are inevitable. Forget that and it stands on its own just fine.

    Exactly, this was SWTOR's problem, it wasn't  knights of the old republic 3. It was an mmo.

    This is what's happening here it's another mmo in another skin and you can bet i'll be playing it when it goes free to play, and all the hype is over.

    I recently subbed back up to swtor and am loving it, but what initially bothered me about SWTOR going free to play is i bought into it at launch, invested all that money, bought into all the hype and a mere few months later i get preferred status, anyone dropping a couple bucks on the market got too. huge price difference.

    So playing this one safe, i'll sub up when it goes free and go from there.

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  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785

    Let's not forget the media's love affair with GW2, it was a special time, when GW2 was the most amazing game ever to grace our lives.

    . . . and then it released.

     

    So whether or not TESO is a game for you, the media is what it is - I can't say they have the best track record.

    SWTOR 85 press rating average on Metacritic.

    GW2 90

    WAR 86

    WoW Cata 90!!!

    Vanguard 68

     

    I'm not saying you or anyone else should even try TESO let alone like it. That's totally up to you.

     

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