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Wildstar: The Satire of an MMO

Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

I see a lot of people out here in cyberspace talkin a lot about this here game 'Wildstar'

I feel a lot of you failed to notice a simple detail about this game, it is made as a satire of MMOs.

 

As soon as the announcer said 'Holy shit cupcake, you leveled up!' to me for hitting level 2, it hit me like a ton of bricks and I started enjoying myself.  Every quest every bit of this game feels more interesting and fun when you realize... It's a satire of the thing we all love most.

MMOs.

 

What do you think now?

Have any opinions on why you think it is or isn't?

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  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    I don't know if it is a satire or not but i do know that game doesn't take itself seriously at all. Which is a good thing because we already have too many serious / dark / grim themed MMOS on market.

    If this game doesn't put a smile on your face while playing then something is seriously wrong with you man!!! image

  • RaysheRayshe Member UncommonPosts: 1,279
    Actually Satire is a good way to put it. Probubly one of the reasons that its moving up on my list of favorate MMO's now i just need to figure out what i can do for 13 days before the next beta.

    Because i can.
    I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
    Logic every gamers worst enemy.

  • Eir_SEir_S Member UncommonPosts: 4,440
    I have a very hard time believing most people who know anything about MMO's or humor in general didn't figure that out, but unless the armor design was part of the joke, it's not funny that I'm going to have to wear that stuff.
  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    I have a very hard time believing most people who know anything about MMO's or humor in general didn't figure that out, but unless the armor design was part of the joke, it's not funny that I'm going to have to wear that stuff.

    While I don't like every one of their armor designs, some of them are cool, some of them are clearly inspired by WoW armor sets, intentionally so.

    I can appreciate their designs without actually finding them personally aesthetically pleasing, which is the case for a few of these.

  • DroosteelDroosteel Member Posts: 138

    Yes, kill 10 rats, just because, is real satire of MMOs.

    So your theory is that they made their game intentionally bland and put very little effort in it just as a satire of MMOs just so you can say to yourself "aww man, yeah MMO quests are soooooo bad, but its OK in WS, because, you know, its satire of MMOs"?

    Really?

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by Droosteel

    Yes, kill 10 rats, just because, is real satire of MMOs.

    So your theory is that they made their game intentionally bland and put very little effort in it just as a satire of MMOs just so you can say to yourself "aww man, yeah MMO quests are soooooo bad, but its OK in WS, because, you know, its satire of MMOs"?

    Really?

    A kill quest is part of having an RPG, that is part of being an RPG. 

    No, they didn't use RPG staples because it's a satire game, they wrote the quest text and the dialogue and the setting to be a satire on MMOs.

    If that confuses you I'd be more than happy to give more examples than the one I already gave.

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,223
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by Eir_S
    I have a very hard time believing most people who know anything about MMO's or humor in general didn't figure that out, but unless the armor design was part of the joke, it's not funny that I'm going to have to wear that stuff.

    While I don't like every one of their armor designs, some of them are cool, some of them are clearly inspired by WoW armor sets, intentionally so.

    I can appreciate their designs without actually finding them personally aesthetically pleasing, which is the case for a few of these.

    I believe the gear designs will get better as time goes, we will see I guess. These are devs from WoW so why are people acting surprised they look similar?

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • ZorgoZorgo Member UncommonPosts: 2,254
    Not sure I'd say it is satire, more like 'tongue-in-cheek'.
  • DroosteelDroosteel Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by Droosteel

    Yes, kill 10 rats, just because, is real satire of MMOs.

    So your theory is that they made their game intentionally bland and put very little effort in it just as a satire of MMOs just so you can say to yourself "aww man, yeah MMO quests are soooooo bad, but its OK in WS, because, you know, its satire of MMOs"?

    Really?

    A kill quest is part of having an RPG, that is part of being an RPG. 

    No, they didn't use RPG staples because it's a satire game, they wrote the quest text and the dialogue and the setting to be a satire on MMOs.

    If that confuses you I'd be more than happy to give more examples than the one I already gave.

    i dont really think you comprehend what youre saying.

    Making bad things worse doesnt make it a satire.

    Its like introducing even larger scale corruption over already large scale corruption and calling it satire, as that makes it "OK". While some perverse souls might find that funny most people will NOT find it funny or entertaining in any way.

  • ValentinelessValentineless Member Posts: 51
    yeah no lie when i leveled up and heard that too, i literally died smiled and was like this game will be interesting

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  • ButeoRegalisButeoRegalis Member UncommonPosts: 594
    Originally posted by Valentineless
    yeah no lie when i leveled up and heard that too, i literally died smiled and was like this game will be interesting

    Happens to me every time I double-jump with my Aurin. :)

    image

  • strawhat0981strawhat0981 Member RarePosts: 1,223
    Originally posted by ButeoRegalis
    Originally posted by Valentineless
    yeah no lie when i leveled up and heard that too, i literally died smiled and was like this game will be interesting

    Happens to me every time I double-jump with my Aurin. :)

    When I play another game i seem to try a double jump... never freakin worksimage

    Originally posted by laokoko
    "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by Droosteel

    i dont really think you comprehend what youre saying.

    Making bad things worse doesnt make it a satire.

    Its like introducing even larger scale corruption over already large scale corruption and calling it satire, as that makes it "OK". While some perverse souls might find that funny most people will NOT find it funny or entertaining in any way.

    I'm afraid you didn't read a word I typed out, so I won't bother replying any further, just know that we agree to disagree fundamentally, and in every way.  Thank you.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by ButeoRegalis
    Originally posted by Valentineless
    yeah no lie when i leveled up and heard that too, i literally died smiled and was like this game will be interesting

    Happens to me every time I double-jump with my Aurin. :)

    I love being an Aurin, I can't wait :-p

    I am a bit sad they can only be 3 classes, I hope there is an ex pack like cata for this game (in that they allow more races more class choices) at some point so that I can roll more Aurin :-D

  • straitbx79straitbx79 Member CommonPosts: 3
    Did any one else enjoy the awesome music as much as i did , i literally lowered sound fx voice and everything and raised music to max , the music was definitely a BIG IMPACT for me enjoying everything else 
  • DroosteelDroosteel Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by Droosteel

    i dont really think you comprehend what youre saying.

    Making bad things worse doesnt make it a satire.

    Its like introducing even larger scale corruption over already large scale corruption and calling it satire, as that makes it "OK". While some perverse souls might find that funny most people will NOT find it funny or entertaining in any way.

    I'm afraid you didn't read a word I typed out, so I won't bother replying any further, just know that we agree to disagree fundamentally, and in every way.  Thank you.

    Yes, lets ignore the facts. Thats always the best solution it seems.

  • hallucigenocidehallucigenocide Member RarePosts: 1,015
    it sure has some comical features but i cant really say that it's satirical.. it's just an average mmo with a certain niche imo.. not dissing it or anything but it just sounds like you're trying to justify why you would play the game...  just play on if you enjoy it no judgement here.

    I had fun once, it was terrible.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by Droosteel

    Yes, lets ignore the facts. Thats always the best solution it seems.

    You are saying 'it's not a satire because it's hamfistedly making jokes and it's making a crappier mmo experience and then trying to pass it of as a satire'

    You are unwilling to say anything except 'it's bad it's crap'.  You are refusing to see it from anyone elses point of view.

    If Wildstar was the game you were claiming it wouldn't have a kill 10 rat's quest, it would have a kill 100 rat's quest and it would take longer and be harder to complete 'merely because it's satire'.

    That however, is not the reality, you are refusing to meet on even terms and discuss things from an objective view point. 

    The discussion is moot.

  • DroosteelDroosteel Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by Laughing-man
    Originally posted by Droosteel

    Yes, lets ignore the facts. Thats always the best solution it seems.

    You are saying 'it's not a satire because it's hamfistedly making jokes and it's making a crappier mmo experience and then trying to pass it of as a satire'

    You are unwilling to say anything except 'it's bad it's crap'.  You are refusing to see it from anyone elses point of view.

    If Wildstar was the game you were claiming it wouldn't have a kill 10 rat's quest, it would have a kill 100 rat's quest and it would take longer and be harder to complete 'merely because it's satire'.

    That however, is not the reality, you are refusing to meet on even terms and discuss things from an objective view point. 

    The discussion is moot.

    You missed the point completely. Its not THEM who call it a satire, its YOU calling it a satire in attempt to justify awful designs.

  • AzureProwerAzurePrower Member UncommonPosts: 1,550
    Originally posted by strawhat0981
    Originally posted by ButeoRegalis
    Originally posted by Valentineless
    yeah no lie when i leveled up and heard that too, i literally died smiled and was like this game will be interesting

    Happens to me every time I double-jump with my Aurin. :)

    When I play another game i seem to try a double jump... never freakin worksimage

     

    After I finished with the WildStar beta this weekend. I logged into Guild Wars 2 and tried to double jump. Realized I could not. Then immediately logged out.

  • DroosteelDroosteel Member Posts: 138
    Originally posted by AzurePrower
    Originally posted by strawhat0981
    Originally posted by ButeoRegalis
    Originally posted by Valentineless
    yeah no lie when i leveled up and heard that too, i literally died smiled and was like this game will be interesting

    Happens to me every time I double-jump with my Aurin. :)

    When I play another game i seem to try a double jump... never freakin worksimage

     

    After I finished with the WildStar beta this weekend. I logged into Guild Wars 2 and tried to double jump. Realized I could not. Then immediately logged out.

    Yes, because pushing a button twice is so much more awesome than just once. It brings so much to the game...."OMG i have to push a button TWICE it makes this game best game evah and much better than that other game where you need to push it only once"

    Double jump is nice gimmick....that wears off at first quest you are required to use it. I prefer substance over gimmick.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by Droosteel

    Yes, lets ignore the facts.

    Opinions pretended to be facts can indeed be ignored.

  • gwei1984gwei1984 Member UncommonPosts: 413

    Well, thats one point I dont really like about WS. It tries so hard to be funny, that it hurts.

    And the problem is also, it is not my humor. I prefer it more subtle Coen-Style, not goofy Adam Sandler-Style.

    But lets wait and see what it brings in the end.

    Hodor!

  • AzureProwerAzurePrower Member UncommonPosts: 1,550
    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    I don't know if it is a satire or not but i do know that game doesn't take itself seriously at all. Which is a good thing because we already have too many serious / dark / grim themed MMOS on market.

    If this game doesn't put a smile on your face while playing then something is seriously wrong with you man!!! image

     

    It is certainly refreshing Just the minor things make all the difference. I was certainly having fun through most of the game play. Not to mention exercising my creative out let with the sand box housing. Some thing to do other than questing and grinding the same thing over and over.

     

    Tried logging back into Guild Wars 2. Remembered the "housing" there was little more than a collection of gimmicky, gathering nodes. Logged immediately back out.

  • PatchezPatchez Member Posts: 58
    Originally posted by Droosteel
    Originally posted by AzurePrower
    Originally posted by strawhat0981
    Originally posted by ButeoRegalis
    Originally posted by Valentineless
    yeah no lie when i leveled up and heard that too, i literally died smiled and was like this game will be interesting

    Happens to me every time I double-jump with my Aurin. :)

    When I play another game i seem to try a double jump... never freakin worksimage

     

    After I finished with the WildStar beta this weekend. I logged into Guild Wars 2 and tried to double jump. Realized I could not. Then immediately logged out.

    Yes, because pushing a button twice is so much more awesome than just once. It brings so much to the game...."OMG i have to push a button TWICE it makes this game best game evah and much better than that other game where you need to push it only once"

    Double jump is nice gimmick....that wears off at first quest you are required to use it. I prefer substance over gimmick.

    One could easily argue that WS have far more style and substance than, oh I don't know, say another big IP mmorpg that is due to release next week.

     

    Now that game is an example of tired design imo, whilst WS seems fairly fresh with a bit of a mix up on a few tried and tested mmorpg staples. It seems fun, it has a lot going on around you and plenty to explore which is all I want from a themepark grinder.

     

    When I look at WS compared that other game due to release next week, it's the other game that comes accross as drab, souless and cynical....

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