ESO finds middle ground incorporating the lore and world of Elder Scrolls and its RPG elements, open skills lines, etc. while having its core functionality an mmo.
Well ethier you didnt look at WS or you havent played ESO. Eso is a typical mmorpg. There is 0 new about it. Its tab target system, where you dont use tab, but its the same system. you just point at it to target. The quest system is the same as all mmorpgs, its worse then SWTOR in that aspect, where it tried to take it from.
The skill system is far from open as you call it, but it isnt anything new. The secret world is more open, and does a better job at it then ESo. The crafting system is the same as all mmorpgs, minus like mortal online, and a couple more. It is gather from nods that spawn in the same spot, click a recipe and instant create. Which a side game of tempering. I am not saying I do not like the game, but it is far from anything new, or differnt. From what i have seen of WS, there is alot new in it.
and at the very least, people wont get access to your character, and get you banned. Or take your stuff.
heres a quote for you.
CUTTING-EDGE DYNAMIC COMBAT
Mobile-freeform combat so intense it’ll melt your face!
Skill-based aiming + zillions of ability combos = A nonstop smorgasbord of carnage!
Elder scrolls is not skill based aiming, it is standard wow targeting. Minus instead of the tab or clicking the target, you point to your target with the cross hairs. There is no skill, you cant miss, it is a que system if the attack starts, and the guy had you targeted, even if you jump 1000 feet away, its still going to hit you. Just the same with block you dont block when the attack connects with you, you block before the attack starts or you wont block it. because to the the game engine the attack already happened.
So if I tab to an enemy target... like in WoW and fire off an arrow, I'll hit it? Good to know. I'll try that when I get home. I hope you're correct cause I sure do hate to aim.
Originally posted by Aroukos The first video i linked above, after 5:20 shows the Dungeon Boss fight
I played the beta and while I know that opinions vary (Roadhouse(TM) ... but I really don't see what the big excitement is over the boss fights. I mean, yeah, they look pretty.. as I happen to like Wildstars art style to a degree, but it's the basic, don't stand on red shit fights. Nothing ground breaking. It is done pretty well, but people are loosing their shit over it.
I personally am liking TESO much better. I love the combat, skills, etc. But then again, opinions vary (Roadhouse(TM)
I wont disagree with you. Its your opinion anyway and i respect it.
But pls tell me something. Do you really love TESO combat? I hope you don't love skill effects also
ESO finds middle ground incorporating the lore and world of Elder Scrolls and its RPG elements, open skills lines, etc. while having its core functionality an mmo.
Well ethier you didnt look at WS or you havent played ESO. Eso is a typical mmorpg. There is 0 new about it. Its tab target system, where you dont use tab, but its the same system. you just point at it to target. The quest system is the same as all mmorpgs, its worse then SWTOR in that aspect, where it tried to take it from.
The skill system is far from open as you call it, but it isnt anything new. The secret world is more open, and does a better job at it then ESo. The crafting system is the same as all mmorpgs, minus like mortal online, and a couple more. It is gather from nods that spawn in the same spot, click a recipe and instant create. Which a side game of tempering. I am not saying I do not like the game, but it is far from anything new, or differnt. From what i have seen of WS, there is alot new in it.
and at the very least, people wont get access to your character, and get you banned. Or take your stuff.
heres a quote for you.
CUTTING-EDGE DYNAMIC COMBAT
Mobile-freeform combat so intense it’ll melt your face!
Skill-based aiming + zillions of ability combos = A nonstop smorgasbord of carnage!
Elder scrolls is not skill based aiming, it is standard wow targeting. Minus instead of the tab or clicking the target, you point to your target with the cross hairs. There is no skill, you cant miss, it is a que system if the attack starts, and the guy had you targeted, even if you jump 1000 feet away, its still going to hit you. Just the same with block you dont block when the attack connects with you, you block before the attack starts or you wont block it. because to the the game engine the attack already happened.
So if I tab to an enemy target... like in WoW and fire off an arrow, I'll hit it? Good to know. I'll try that when I get home. I hope you're correct cause I sure do hate to aim.
If you call eso aiming i dont know what to say to you. Its 100 percent not aiming, aiming a arrow is like skyrim where you have to point it up in the air and watch where it goes. In ESO all you do is point it at the guy to highlight it as the target and hit the fire button, even if it moves around it will still hit it. There are no terjectorys calculated by the engine. Its just you have it targeted or you dont.
Here is what a lot of people are missing here that are hating on the game. Wildstar is easy to pick up and play. It fits like an old shoe and for some thats just not good enough and I agree. What they dont see till they have played a while is that easy to play does not mean easy to master. There is some real depth here and it has a hardcore game at heart here. Take 5 min to learn about the skill system and that alone blew my mind.
I beta tested ESO and its fun but the depth of Wildstar is what won me over. DONE!!!!
I would say in my opinion or something like that but i don't do that, because i play 3 Wildstar beta for now and only one Eso Beta. Why?? Its really easy you cant comper Wildstar to any thinkg this game is just masrter pice of MMo and it have everything in right plays it's use amazing and ppl who don't like those graphic are just close mined.... because those even graphic in Wilstar is beter then ESO grafic. After 30 minuts in word of ESO i was sick of this ugly grafic, looking like walking shit mobs, and the worst combat i ever seen in me life even those in wow which was as well really poor are better then this and this "stroy" in ESO you lost your soul just like thoused other players...(this game will nerver have a million player). so this is what i think about ESO maybe im close mined as well but even writting about shit shit game and readyng you comments make me sick. And of course Wilstra is better then any of the MMO i ever played. Wow was fun game but after 2 years of same poor combat graphic and boss fight where just just stand behind or some where alse around the boss and just click buttons wasnt fun at all... Guild Wars was just a fail 99% ppl only doing 2 paths in 1 dungeon.... or AC and pvp was chaotic and after lvl 20 you have allready all your skills that was just boring after not so long time Aion have very poor housing. i hope SWTOR will be the right game for me but they mess it up end game was a fail only fun and good part was the story of all classes in the game only thing and that it Wildstar dont make you a hero instantly (ESO,SWTOR) , i think all will find in it class or race they want to play because they are very good not like in GW 2 i played a charr thief and races were shallow and i dont feel that WS race are shallow i really like them like a lot of ppl do. Of couse the best pvp you ever seen you will se in wildstar and the best housing is also in wildstar in my opinion have the best crafting system and of course you have paths system as well so this game is just the best game i stop playing in any game after my first beta week in wildstar i just cant play in any of this bad game any more i just wait for another beta of Wildstar.
ESO finds middle ground incorporating the lore and world of Elder Scrolls and its RPG elements, open skills lines, etc. while having its core functionality an mmo.
Well ethier you didnt look at WS or you havent played ESO. Eso is a typical mmorpg. There is 0 new about it. Its tab target system, where you dont use tab, but its the same system. you just point at it to target. The quest system is the same as all mmorpgs, its worse then SWTOR in that aspect, where it tried to take it from.
The skill system is far from open as you call it, but it isnt anything new. The secret world is more open, and does a better job at it then ESo. The crafting system is the same as all mmorpgs, minus like mortal online, and a couple more. It is gather from nods that spawn in the same spot, click a recipe and instant create. Which a side game of tempering. I am not saying I do not like the game, but it is far from anything new, or differnt. From what i have seen of WS, there is alot new in it.
and at the very least, people wont get access to your character, and get you banned. Or take your stuff.
heres a quote for you.
CUTTING-EDGE DYNAMIC COMBAT
Mobile-freeform combat so intense it’ll melt your face!
Skill-based aiming + zillions of ability combos = A nonstop smorgasbord of carnage!
Elder scrolls is not skill based aiming, it is standard wow targeting. Minus instead of the tab or clicking the target, you point to your target with the cross hairs. There is no skill, you cant miss, it is a que system if the attack starts, and the guy had you targeted, even if you jump 1000 feet away, its still going to hit you. Just the same with block you dont block when the attack connects with you, you block before the attack starts or you wont block it. because to the the game engine the attack already happened.
So if I tab to an enemy target... like in WoW and fire off an arrow, I'll hit it? Good to know. I'll try that when I get home. I hope you're correct cause I sure do hate to aim.
You dont like aiming what a noob sr but lol you should stop playing in any games even wow or this shit eso whivh have a poor but still aming system example : if mob is behind you you cant hit him so you need to turn around see aiming poor and reaaly bad aiming but still so if you dont like it you just bad and thats why you dont like WS and you want to play ESo. WS is challenging game ESO is not at all thats why you want to play ESO because you are bad. BTW i did first dungeon in wildstar with random ppl after 22 of my deaths we change our squad a lot and we did it after 2 hours and it is just first dungeon of cours the tank was little rusty (like me english he :P) and he didnt dodge attack so he die easyly for first 30 minuts but he learn something and after we kill this last boss it feld good maybe we have so many wipe because in me case dung was for lvl 20 i have lvl 20 but me gear was 16-17 lvl gear but we still did it. So for me after i read you commnt i dont think you are a player :P
Wildstar will cause you to have an epileptic fit and/or throw your PC out the window, whereas ESO will put you to sleep. And both will prove that their are still no new idea's in the MMO space.
I played both betas and i prefer Wildstar by a mile. But dont take my point of view. Others will like TESO more. Different tastes different opinions. The best i can give you is some videos to check on your own:
Same. I am just playing ESO in the first month. No reason to sub.
WildStar has so_much_more to offern and is so_much_more polished.
In ESO you are stuck everywhere: Either your horse doesnt move correctly as you want, your quests dont work or you have lag. Mostly ability lag. So you cant walk, cant do something on the way to do something.
I played both betas and i prefer Wildstar by a mile. But dont take my point of view. Others will like TESO more. Different tastes different opinions. The best i can give you is some videos to check on your own:
Same. I am just playing ESO in the first month. No reason to sub.
WildStar has so_much_more to offern and is so_much_more polished.
In ESO you are stuck everywhere: Either your horse doesnt move correctly as you want, your quests dont work or you have lag. Mostly ability lag. So you cant walk, cant do something on the way to do something.
What can you do? Definitelly uninstall.
I played wildstar the last beta weekend they had to restart servers cause of bugged quests and floating npc's. The game isn't very extensive on my graphics card but with 50 people on my screen I was getting 15-20 FPS.
no new ideas maybe but this game take does ideas from other games and they mix them up to creat this game and they did it all well so whole game was a great idea and about you com i mention that i allreay have 20 lvl and guess what i did that q allrady i dont need to watch it :P if you didnt see you have something called "challenge' in this area and it is challenging to get gold medal in some cases i think its not even possible so easyly and those regular q maybe looks like same old idea but they are not boring at all and all of q i did and i did every one of them was fun even using the same skill for i dont know its maybe over 100 hours for me allready its not borring at all because combat system and the way it all looks like:P
Personally, skipped ESO and pumped for WildStar, however, to answer your post more directly, I think comparing these two games is a very bad idea. They are different in almost every possible way, save the fact they are themeparks.
I played both betas and i prefer Wildstar by a mile. But dont take my point of view. Others will like TESO more. Different tastes different opinions. The best i can give you is some videos to check on your own:
Same. I am just playing ESO in the first month. No reason to sub.
WildStar has so_much_more to offern and is so_much_more polished.
In ESO you are stuck everywhere: Either your horse doesnt move correctly as you want, your quests dont work or you have lag. Mostly ability lag. So you cant walk, cant do something on the way to do something.
What can you do? Definitelly uninstall.
I played wildstar the last beta weekend they had to restart servers cause of bugged quests and floating npc's. The game isn't very extensive on my graphics card but with 50 people on my screen I was getting 15-20 FPS.
1 this game need a good pc men :P secound with so big game you always will get some bugs always it is not posible to creat so good game as wildstar with out bugs if they will do that they are just more amazing that i was thinking and what is better in this game that you dont have in any other game developers are listening as if we have so problems examplelast week all players stuck in their houses they repair it after 30 minuts :P so if we have some problem in this game they dont just leave it to be they are trying to repair it as soon as it is possible and what ESO have to offer as they games are always buged from the start.
I played both betas and i prefer Wildstar by a mile. But dont take my point of view. Others will like TESO more. Different tastes different opinions. The best i can give you is some videos to check on your own:
Same. I am just playing ESO in the first month. No reason to sub.
WildStar has so_much_more to offern and is so_much_more polished.
In ESO you are stuck everywhere: Either your horse doesnt move correctly as you want, your quests dont work or you have lag. Mostly ability lag. So you cant walk, cant do something on the way to do something.
What can you do? Definitelly uninstall.
I played wildstar the last beta weekend they had to restart servers cause of bugged quests and floating npc's. The game isn't very extensive on my graphics card but with 50 people on my screen I was getting 15-20 FPS.
1 this game need a good pc men :P secound with so big game you always will get some bugs always it is not posible to creat so good game as wildstar with out bugs if they will do that they are just more amazing that i was thinking and what is better in this game that you dont have in any other game developers are listening as if we have so problems examplelast week all players stuck in their houses they repair it after 30 minuts :P so if we have some problem in this game they dont just leave it to be they are trying to repair it as soon as it is possible and what ESO have to offer as they games are always buged from the start.
I think my pc is pretty good I play BF4 on ultra settings so no problems on my end. People are all saying this game is polished to perfection I think it could use some optimization.
I played both betas and i prefer Wildstar by a mile. But dont take my point of view. Others will like TESO more. Different tastes different opinions. The best i can give you is some videos to check on your own:
Same. I am just playing ESO in the first month. No reason to sub.
WildStar has so_much_more to offern and is so_much_more polished.
In ESO you are stuck everywhere: Either your horse doesnt move correctly as you want, your quests dont work or you have lag. Mostly ability lag. So you cant walk, cant do something on the way to do something.
What can you do? Definitelly uninstall.
I played wildstar the last beta weekend they had to restart servers cause of bugged quests and floating npc's. The game isn't very extensive on my graphics card but with 50 people on my screen I was getting 15-20 FPS.
1 this game need a good pc men :P secound with so big game you always will get some bugs always it is not posible to creat so good game as wildstar with out bugs if they will do that they are just more amazing that i was thinking and what is better in this game that you dont have in any other game developers are listening as if we have so problems examplelast week all players stuck in their houses they repair it after 30 minuts :P so if we have some problem in this game they dont just leave it to be they are trying to repair it as soon as it is possible and what ESO have to offer as they games are always buged from the start.
I think my pc is pretty good I play BF4 on ultra settings so no problems on my end. People are all saying this game is polished to perfection I think it could use some optimization.
btw one issue is that for now only active servers are in America so yea ppl from eu like me have lags after they lunche the game ppl from ue will play only on eu servers thats why you can buy two version of this game US and EU. Btw i need more ram in me pc to play in this game on max settings i have only 4 GB 4core amd procesor and GeFroce 660 or 640 i dont remember but still i dont have lags or they not so big for me :P only if i change setting to better one i have lags
I haven't played wildstar, but I did play in the ESO beta. I wasn't having much fun in the beta, but decided to purchase the game anyway (guess I am an impulse buyer). I am having quite a different experience now than I did in beta. It doesn't play like beta did and alot of features have been added and bugs fixed. I am quite tickled with the game now and forsee myself playing it for quite sometime, It is very immersive.
Comments
So if I tab to an enemy target... like in WoW and fire off an arrow, I'll hit it? Good to know. I'll try that when I get home. I hope you're correct cause I sure do hate to aim.
I wont disagree with you. Its your opinion anyway and i respect it.
But pls tell me something. Do you really love TESO combat? I hope you don't love skill effects also
If you call eso aiming i dont know what to say to you. Its 100 percent not aiming, aiming a arrow is like skyrim where you have to point it up in the air and watch where it goes. In ESO all you do is point it at the guy to highlight it as the target and hit the fire button, even if it moves around it will still hit it. There are no terjectorys calculated by the engine. Its just you have it targeted or you dont.
Here is what a lot of people are missing here that are hating on the game. Wildstar is easy to pick up and play. It fits like an old shoe and for some thats just not good enough and I agree. What they dont see till they have played a while is that easy to play does not mean easy to master. There is some real depth here and it has a hardcore game at heart here. Take 5 min to learn about the skill system and that alone blew my mind.
I beta tested ESO and its fun but the depth of Wildstar is what won me over. DONE!!!!
You dont like aiming what a noob sr but lol you should stop playing in any games even wow or this shit eso whivh have a poor but still aming system example : if mob is behind you you cant hit him so you need to turn around see aiming poor and reaaly bad aiming but still so if you dont like it you just bad and thats why you dont like WS and you want to play ESo. WS is challenging game ESO is not at all thats why you want to play ESO because you are bad. BTW i did first dungeon in wildstar with random ppl after 22 of my deaths we change our squad a lot and we did it after 2 hours and it is just first dungeon of cours the tank was little rusty (like me english he :P) and he didnt dodge attack so he die easyly for first 30 minuts but he learn something and after we kill this last boss it feld good maybe we have so many wipe because in me case dung was for lvl 20 i have lvl 20 but me gear was 16-17 lvl gear but we still did it. So for me after i read you commnt i dont think you are a player :P
Wildstar will cause you to have an epileptic fit and/or throw your PC out the window, whereas ESO will put you to sleep. And both will prove that their are still no new idea's in the MMO space.
The wait continues.
This is wildstar and what you'll be doing to level up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqCTesqPnC8
Same. I am just playing ESO in the first month. No reason to sub.
WildStar has so_much_more to offern and is so_much_more polished.
In ESO you are stuck everywhere: Either your horse doesnt move correctly as you want, your quests dont work or you have lag. Mostly ability lag. So you cant walk, cant do something on the way to do something.
What can you do? Definitelly uninstall.
I played wildstar the last beta weekend they had to restart servers cause of bugged quests and floating npc's. The game isn't very extensive on my graphics card but with 50 people on my screen I was getting 15-20 FPS.
no new ideas maybe but this game take does ideas from other games and they mix them up to creat this game and they did it all well so whole game was a great idea and about you com i mention that i allreay have 20 lvl and guess what i did that q allrady i dont need to watch it :P if you didnt see you have something called "challenge' in this area and it is challenging to get gold medal in some cases i think its not even possible so easyly and those regular q maybe looks like same old idea but they are not boring at all and all of q i did and i did every one of them was fun even using the same skill for i dont know its maybe over 100 hours for me allready its not borring at all because combat system and the way it all looks like:P
1 this game need a good pc men :P secound with so big game you always will get some bugs always it is not posible to creat so good game as wildstar with out bugs if they will do that they are just more amazing that i was thinking and what is better in this game that you dont have in any other game developers are listening as if we have so problems examplelast week all players stuck in their houses they repair it after 30 minuts :P so if we have some problem in this game they dont just leave it to be they are trying to repair it as soon as it is possible and what ESO have to offer as they games are always buged from the start.
I think my pc is pretty good I play BF4 on ultra settings so no problems on my end. People are all saying this game is polished to perfection I think it could use some optimization.
btw one issue is that for now only active servers are in America so yea ppl from eu like me have lags after they lunche the game ppl from ue will play only on eu servers thats why you can buy two version of this game US and EU. Btw i need more ram in me pc to play in this game on max settings i have only 4 GB 4core amd procesor and GeFroce 660 or 640 i dont remember but still i dont have lags or they not so big for me :P only if i change setting to better one i have lags
A comparrison between ESo and Wildstar..
Both are fun MMO´s ..... thats about where it stops. The rest is different.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Agree
Different games for different audiences.