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Why does everything in this game revolve around hitting E?

tixylixtixylix Member UncommonPosts: 1,288

Every fucking quest is "run to this and press E" rinse and repeat. All the time you'll speak to an NPC and they tell you to click on a shrine... how many shrines are there? Then you'll be magically loaded into a new phase by the NPC who does some blinding effect on you, only it is ruined by a loading screen. Why couldn't they at least make it feel seamless? WoW did it years ago and yet for some reason this game wants to throw loading screens at you. Just ruins the immersion for me...

 

All I've had so far is pressing E on various object quests, nothing has any animation either, it just has these weird transitions to a new state, it is like what MMOs have always done and not gotten away from. I don't understand why we cannot have one to one interaction with the world? Like there are no physics and everything is static and so you have to press E on everything and all you get is text saying something happened..

 

All you do is run through a linear path in this world doing quests are carious hubs like WoW. In previous Elder Scrolls games I played I just ran anywhere I wanted and I found content, what I loved about the latest games is everything levels up with you, this has just made the world into do anything at any time. I just loved exploring the world and doing what I wanted. In The Elder Scrolls Online I just feel like I'm in Ikea following the arrows...

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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    Because everything revolving around hitting "F" was already taken by Wildstar.

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  • VideoJockeyVideoJockey Member UncommonPosts: 223
    Uh, have you never played an Elder Scrolls game before?
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Originally posted by tixylix

    Every fucking quest is "run to this and press E" rinse and repeat. All the time you'll speak to an NPC and they tell you to click on a shrine... how many shrines are there? Then you'll be magically loaded into a new phase by the NPC who does some blinding effect on you, only it is ruined by a loading screen. Why couldn't they at least make it feel seamless? WoW did it years ago and yet for some reason this game wants to throw loading screens at you. Just ruins the immersion for me...

     

    All I've had so far is pressing E on various object quests, nothing has any animation either, it just has these weird transitions to a new state, it is like what MMOs have always done and not gotten away from. I don't understand why we cannot have one to one interaction with the world? Like there are no physics and everything is static and so you have to press E on everything and all you get is text saying something happened..

     

    All you do is run through a linear path in this world doing quests are carious hubs like WoW. In previous Elder Scrolls games I played I just ran anywhere I wanted and I found content, what I loved about the latest games is everything levels up with you, this has just made the world into do anything at any time. I just loved exploring the world and doing what I wanted. In The Elder Scrolls Online I just feel like I'm in Ikea following the arrows...

    as opposed to double clicking on every quest giver or item that you have to interact with?

    Also you will noticed that it's like skyrim where you use E to open doors, chests, interact with npc's.

    As far as being able to run everywhere. you can. That's how I've found most of my quests and is the way the game is designed. However, and unfortunately to my mind, the game is a thempark mmo and therefore it has level designed areas. this is like lotro, like wow, like Aion, like Lineage 2, like Secret World, etc.

    Heck, there is another thread going on about the same exact topic.

    and don't follow the arrows if you dont' want. Those are for your active quests. You can just head in a direction and see what you find. I promise you will find something.

    Also you can turn off those arrows and also turn off the glow on enemy npc's.

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  • SadSwordfishSadSwordfish Member CommonPosts: 78

    Context sensitive actions and buttons have been the path gaming has been headed for for a long time. It's easier for people who are not good at games. 

     

    You need to remember there are millions of people who can't do WASD while looking around with a mouse. Game developers want to tap into new markets. Having less buttons helps people learn the controls. 

  • XirikXirik Member UncommonPosts: 440
    Originally posted by tixylix

    Every fucking quest is "run to this and press E" rinse and repeat. All the time you'll speak to an NPC and they tell you to click on a shrine... how many shrines are there? Then you'll be magically loaded into a new phase by the NPC who does some blinding effect on you, only it is ruined by a loading screen. Why couldn't they at least make it feel seamless? WoW did it years ago and yet for some reason this game wants to throw loading screens at you. Just ruins the immersion for me...

     

    All I've had so far is pressing E on various object quests, nothing has any animation either, it just has these weird transitions to a new state, it is like what MMOs have always done and not gotten away from. I don't understand why we cannot have one to one interaction with the world? Like there are no physics and everything is static and so you have to press E on everything and all you get is text saying something happened..

     

    All you do is run through a linear path in this world doing quests are carious hubs like WoW. In previous Elder Scrolls games I played I just ran anywhere I wanted and I found content, what I loved about the latest games is everything levels up with you, this has just made the world into do anything at any time. I just loved exploring the world and doing what I wanted. In The Elder Scrolls Online I just feel like I'm in Ikea following the arrows...

    thanks for the lol

    I wish games made you have randomly hit a key on the keyboard every time you do something. That will be fun.

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  • KarteliKarteli Member CommonPosts: 2,646
    Originally posted by SadSwordfish

    Context sensitive actions and buttons have been the path gaming has been headed for for a long time. It's easier for people who are not good at games. 

     

    You need to remember there are millions of people who can't do WASD while looking around with a mouse. Game developers want to tap into new markets. Having less buttons helps people learn the controls. 

    ... which is the equivalent of saying lower standards makes for higher education marks.  Yes scores are higher, but only because the exams were nerfed.  For what you are saying, I think tutorials help people learn the controls .. not less buttons, lol.

     

    In any event, context sensitive actions and hand holding might be where developers are heading to continually tap into new markets .. but it leaves the folks currently in the market already feeling bored quicker and quicker with each new game.  Probably why so many people whip through content and then complain theres nothing left to do, and so on.

     

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

    It would be nice if there were animations and stuff.  It also wouldn't hurt if the interaction was a little bit deeper.  In Alan Wake, when you have to start a generator for light, you hit a button that swings the starter around in a circle.  Then you have to hit the same button again, but at the right time.  After a couple of times the engine starts and you get light.  It's a very simple mechanic (hit the button), but it's somewhat interactive (hit the button at the right time, in a manner consistent with a cyclical starter).  You use the same button in other things, but you have to use the button differently, effectively turning one button into two or three.  It helps if the way the button is used works with what's happening in the world too.  Tapping the button quickly several times to simulate pushing against a door, holding the button down to simulate holding something still, etc.

     

    I get the impression that ESO doesn't do this.  I don't think the poor design is in the single button though.  If all you're really doing is picking stuff up, putting stuff down or flipping switches, it doesn't seem like multiple buttons or even context sensitive button usage is really necessary.  The problem is the lack of animations, and activities that lend themselves to context sensitive button use. 

     

    Then again, the design could be taking into consideration the number of people who will only Right Click with a mouse rather than use a keyboard button or a button on a game pad.  The activities and the way the user interacts with them has to take into consideration all the types of users that are going to show up.  It's a potentially limiting factor.  Do they control how the interaction occurs, or do they allow for a variety of interactions, possibly limiting the range of the interactions in the process?

     

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  • CaldicotCaldicot Member UncommonPosts: 455
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Because everything revolving around hitting "F" was already taken by Wildstar.

    LOL

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  • SomeOldBlokeSomeOldBloke Member UncommonPosts: 2,167
    Originally posted by Caldicot
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Because everything revolving around hitting "F" was already taken by Wildstar.

    LOL

    you said it!!

  • prowessprowess Member UncommonPosts: 169

    I think a lot of people's attitude around questing in ESO would be different if it wasn't 100% mandatory...

     

    A quest should be something special...  In ESO, your quest journal is constantly overflowing..  not that having a lot of quests to choose from is terrible just that having no viable options outside of questing is.  You're constantly on an epic quest therefore epic quests are mundane and nothing is epic.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Because everything revolving around hitting "F" was already taken by Wildstar.

    BA-ZINGA! :) 

     

    Personally, I like the fact that the open door, open chest, use item, gather plants, mine, etc are all one Action key. It's simple and intuitive

     

     

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  • andreawalesandreawales Member Posts: 44
    Hang on ... this is guy that got a full refund ? I smell a Troll , just look at all his previous posts , they are all bashing the game ;)
  • Kayo45Kayo45 Member Posts: 293
    Because its the main action button? Because its how you activate and/or use items in the game? Would you rather just right-click again? Did you ever whi... I mean "complain" about all the right-clicking you had to do in previous MMOs? Is this a serious post? You can always set the "interact with environment" keybind to right-click if it'd make you feel better.

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  • Sunnyguy46Sunnyguy46 Member UncommonPosts: 91

    Random thing to complain about #12654...done. 

     

    Next #12655: Why do I have to hit "Enter" to chat?

  • Dreamo84Dreamo84 Member UncommonPosts: 3,713
    This guy clearly doesn't play. The phasing is seemless, I have no idea what loading screens and white light this troll is referring to. I am ok if you don't like the game but don't make things up. When you save the town it just stays saved, there isn't some magical loading screen that makes it turn from not saved to saved.

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  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 3,030

    I take it that nearly every other mmo using mouse clicks to interact with things is ok then? There will always be a key.

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  • orionblackorionblack Member UncommonPosts: 493
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Because everything revolving around hitting "F" was already taken by Wildstar.

    Hahahahaha

  • TalemireTalemire Member UncommonPosts: 842
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Because everything revolving around hitting "F" was already taken by Wildstar.

    KO

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Sunnyguy46

    Random thing to complain about #12654...done. 

    Next #12655: Why do I have to hit "Enter" to chat?

    Because it's a WOW clone!

     

     

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  • zwei2zwei2 Member Posts: 361
    Press E to rich

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  • DrunkWolfDrunkWolf Member RarePosts: 1,701
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Because everything revolving around hitting "F" was already taken by Wildstar.

    at least these games are changing it up. Star wars wore out space bars, teso has E and wildstar is working on F.

  • BelgaraathBelgaraath Member UncommonPosts: 3,204

    OP you are clearly trolling.

    1) The story like any story in any game is linear and the zones are leveled, but the world is not at all a WOW quest hub game. If you think that you aren't playing it correctly or not playing it at all. There is a TON of stuff to find that is not quest related and in each of the huge zones you can run just about everywhere. The story phases certain area but you can still run there...you may just see something a little different from somebody else depending where you are in a quest chain. Educate yourself, explore, and learn what the game is really about.

    2) If you dont like E rekey it to another letter or your mouse...does that feel better? lol

    3) This isn't a single player game, so being able to do anything you want everywhere like in Skyrim is unrealistic and you probably already know this unless this is your first MMO.

    4) In Oblivion, everything would level up with you. God knows how many people hated that...a mudcrab that is level 50.....which breaks immersion. Then mods were created to stop that by creating leveled areas. Guess what, this game already has that. Though I loved Skyrim, I was an overpowered God by level 25 and I never needed much anything new past that. We dont want that in an MMO. We want a feeling of progression.

    This game is clearly not for you. Now back to the fun. I'm having the best time in an MMO in a decade. Most playing are too. 

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  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610

    I'm confused. What actually is your problem? Hitting E or the game feels linear? Hitting E, or the alternative in other games (right-clicking) is the same thing. If it's your doing constantly I'm glad. There's a lot of MMOs on the market where you can not interact with anything other than NPCs.

    Also, how do you interact in a game without using a peripheral? Your gonna be hitting something.

     

    The linear part I'm not that bothered about as I prefer PvP. If there is no story in PvE ,whether it be linear or not, the PvE is worthless.

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  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610
    Originally posted by DrunkWolf
    Originally posted by Volgore
    Because everything revolving around hitting "F" was already taken by Wildstar.

    at least these games are changing it up. Star wars wore out space bars, teso has E and wildstar is working on F.

    Funny how the space bar is the skip content button in SWTOR and got worn out. :)

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  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    I would give you my honest opinion to your thread but I would get moderated. Funny how trolls are free to spout their non-sense but if you properly address them you will get moderated. 

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