41% is a pretty good . I think SWTOR when it ran similar polls got less.
This is why I said this poll is crap. People are bound to get confused. You are a prime example of this. 41% is not right. Why? Because there are 3 options for people who never bought the game and those add up to 35% of total votes. So your 41% are 41% of all people who bought the game and those 35% who never bought the game. So in theory is it is way higher. I can't be bothered to recalculate it though.
So true! Only one option (6.1%) is a clear purchase, with no intent to renew. 29-49% of those voting haven't even bought it.
49% of the comments roughly are 'negative', being either no way, not worth the sub, didnt buy it, or waiting for it to go F2P, or regret buying it. So that takes almost half the votes away. As of right now that a less than 600.
But if you want a break down as of this posting
342 claim theyre resubbing
103 are going to give it another month
94 already re-subbed.
So that is 539 people out of (approximately) 616 (who bought the game)who claim theyre going to pay at least a month of subs. Thats 87.5%. Which is very unlikely. I would say that in reality the results are going to be almost opposite of that.
But if a lot of people DO re sub then while the numbers arent great overall theyre going to continue to retain those hard core people who love the game no matter how bad it is. Which is a main goal of most companies at first but generally as the numbers dwindle they make the expected changes.
49% of the comments roughly are 'negative', being either no way, not worth the sub, didnt buy it, or waiting for it to go F2P, or regret buying it. So that takes almost half the votes away. As of right now that a less than 600.
But if you want a break down as of this posting
342 claim theyre resubbing
103 are going to give it another month
94 already re-subbed.
So that is 539 people out of (approximately) 616 (who bought the game)who claim theyre going to pay at least a month of subs. Thats 87.5%. Which is very unlikely. I would say that in reality the results are going to be almost opposite of that.
But if a lot of people DO re sub then while the numbers arent great overall theyre going to continue to retain those hard core people who love the game no matter how bad it is. Which is a main goal of most companies at first but generally as the numbers dwindle they make the expected changes.
The numbers currently seem to be broadly in line with general retention rates of most MMO's, around 30%, its only an indicator though rather than a definitive answer, until Zenimax actually put some figures out there everything is, and can only be, guesswork. But they don't look good either way.
/.../ while the numbers arent great overall theyre going to continue to retain those hard core people who love the game no matter how bad it is /.../
Please cut your hater crap already. I'm not an ESO fan nor even Elder Scrolls fan. I just like this game so far and intend to play it until it entertains me. Maybe a few more months, maybe much longer. I don't know that yet. I'm quite sure that in most cases this is just the same, not about hard core nomatterwhat.
Some people are only seeking entertainment in games, not a substitute for religion. Can you live with that knowledge now?
49% of the comments roughly are 'negative', being either no way, not worth the sub, didnt buy it, or waiting for it to go F2P, or regret buying it. So that takes almost half the votes away. As of right now that a less than 600.
But if you want a break down as of this posting
342 claim theyre resubbing
103 are going to give it another month
94 already re-subbed.
So that is 539 people out of (approximately) 616 (who bought the game)who claim theyre going to pay at least a month of subs. Thats 87.5%. Which is very unlikely. I would say that in reality the results are going to be almost opposite of that.
But if a lot of people DO re sub then while the numbers arent great overall theyre going to continue to retain those hard core people who love the game no matter how bad it is. Which is a main goal of most companies at first but generally as the numbers dwindle they make the expected changes.
The numbers currently seem to be broadly in line with general retention rates of most MMO's, around 30%, its only an indicator though rather than a definitive answer, until Zenimax actually put some figures out there everything is, and can only be, guesswork. But they don't look good either way.
This poll in no way indicates anything to do with player retention considering several of the options are for those who did not even purchase the game to begin with. Those who never even played have no relevance to retention, theyre just non-factors. A simple yes or no poll, with only those who actually purchased it voting rather than people who dont even play voting no just to feel better about themselves, would give you a better idea of retention.
The closest you could get from this poll is to only account for the options of yes, 1 more month, no, and not worth a sub (and only some of those would even be from actual players). If you remove the other options and scale the remaining ones up to total 100%, its actually more like a minimum of 60% and thats IF all of the "not worth a sub" people are actually current players. Assuming that they aren't, and are made up partly of people who just did not even buy it due to the sub, the 60% or so goes up a bit more.
Anyway, thats just an estimate based on this awkward poll. As I said, best way to view it would be to get a yes or no poll of players who actually bought the game and wether or not they are resubbing.
ESO just makes me want to go back and replay the old single player games.
They would have been better off investing their money in just making a solid multiplayer co-op game. ESO really doesnt have much of what makes the Elder Scrolls games so great. Namely, the large open world that YOU are impacting and participating in.
As an MMO its a decent game, but so was SWTOR, and Secret World, and Age of Conan, or any of the dozen or so others that blazed brightly for launch month then buckled under the weight of unfulfilled promise and expectation.
Subbed! Im looooving ti. Everything about it is great. Yes, Im a fan.
As for an AH, im already in 4 guilds, 3 or them have active AHs. My main guild of only 20 is for freinds, and friends of freinds, and for the guild bank.
Im not too keen on housing, never have beem. It ne nice, but not necessary.
Two Campaings to do stuff in Cyrodiil. One for Shard farming an questing, one for PvP.
We are a multiple account household...and YES we will be subbing for quite some time...we are thrilled with the game, of course it has issues...for chrimees sake its brand new...and yes I would love housing, an AH that is not guild driven and OMG banks on all my alts. None of which is a detriment to my playing.
well i will try it when it will be free. But ArcheAge is coming this year and if it got a release sooner that ESO will be free to play, i doubt i will ever try it ..
Cancelled within a day of the 30 days of play that came with buying it. And I'm seeking a refund, although I'm getting an unbelievable run-around from their customer service. [sarcasm] Wonderful customer service! [/sarcasm] Very, very polite... but otherwise totally useless with canned responses.
"We'd love to help you! Just send us all this personal information -- to include credit card data -- in an open, unsecured email..."
Like hell I will...
Since the last patch, the game is unplayable. I keep trying, but it crashes after at most fifteen minutes or so of play. HARD crashes resulting in their little white dialog asking what I was doing at the time... well, let me see: I was chatting with my son in-game when it crashed (happened multiple times); I was moving (happened multiple times); I was killing a mob, just your everyday mob (happened multiple times); I was fighting a boss mob (happened once); I opened the man (happened multiple times); I opened my inventory (happened mutiple times)...
...in other words, not doing anything other than the mundane. I have even had the game crash just after loading my character.
This wasn't happening during Beta.
This wasn't happening during the 5-day early start.
I had eight crashes total during that timeframe through close to 100 hours played.
Since the patch I've had fifteen crashes in less than an hour played.
I don't know what they did, but my son's framerate has dropped by around 20fps since the patch, too.
Fine, my PC isn't compatible with their game for some reason. I can live with it. But, since the problems only started with the last patch, I don't want some young college kid trying to snow me with the usual crap about ports and routers and firewalls, etc. It's not like I haven't been a computer geek for almost 50 years.
Are you running Windows 8.1, and compatible hardware? The best results will always come from updating both your software hardware, and bios, drivers etc. Its what I did before I started playing eso, and I've had 0 problems.
I really like the game the only thing that is hurting it for me is the lag. So quite frankly I hope there is a bit of a drop off once subs hit. So damn many people playing that i can't play comfortably. Please leave.
I havent bought game yet goign to my sisters today to check it out one last time, i played beta but got to like level 4 i think and a quest bugged and then i coudlnt be arsed to play and logged haha
ESO just makes me want to go back and replay the old single player games.
They would have been better off investing their money in just making a solid multiplayer co-op game. ESO really doesnt have much of what makes the Elder Scrolls games so great. Namely, the large open world that YOU are impacting and participating in.
As an MMO its a decent game, but so was SWTOR, and Secret World, and Age of Conan, or any of the dozen or so others that blazed brightly for launch month then buckled under the weight of unfulfilled promise and expectation.
-Gooney
Agreed and am doing just that i've never played more Skyrim. However i really like ESO for what it is too.
Finding when i want some mmo it's a much better option than swtor "atm" for me, and when i want quiet time Skyrim or ME3.
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Your legend ends here and now! - (Battles Won Long Ago)
I'm also afraid to buy this game, because if something happens and they go free to play than I will feel like I got gimped and lost my $60 investement.
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So true! Only one option (6.1%) is a clear purchase, with no intent to renew. 29-49% of those voting haven't even bought it.
For guys trying out figure out the numbers....
49% of the comments roughly are 'negative', being either no way, not worth the sub, didnt buy it, or waiting for it to go F2P, or regret buying it. So that takes almost half the votes away. As of right now that a less than 600.
But if you want a break down as of this posting
342 claim theyre resubbing
103 are going to give it another month
94 already re-subbed.
So that is 539 people out of (approximately) 616 (who bought the game)who claim theyre going to pay at least a month of subs. Thats 87.5%. Which is very unlikely. I would say that in reality the results are going to be almost opposite of that.
But if a lot of people DO re sub then while the numbers arent great overall theyre going to continue to retain those hard core people who love the game no matter how bad it is. Which is a main goal of most companies at first but generally as the numbers dwindle they make the expected changes.
The numbers currently seem to be broadly in line with general retention rates of most MMO's, around 30%, its only an indicator though rather than a definitive answer, until Zenimax actually put some figures out there everything is, and can only be, guesswork. But they don't look good either way.
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Please cut your hater crap already. I'm not an ESO fan nor even Elder Scrolls fan. I just like this game so far and intend to play it until it entertains me. Maybe a few more months, maybe much longer. I don't know that yet. I'm quite sure that in most cases this is just the same, not about hard core nomatterwhat.
Some people are only seeking entertainment in games, not a substitute for religion. Can you live with that knowledge now?
This poll in no way indicates anything to do with player retention considering several of the options are for those who did not even purchase the game to begin with. Those who never even played have no relevance to retention, theyre just non-factors. A simple yes or no poll, with only those who actually purchased it voting rather than people who dont even play voting no just to feel better about themselves, would give you a better idea of retention.
The closest you could get from this poll is to only account for the options of yes, 1 more month, no, and not worth a sub (and only some of those would even be from actual players). If you remove the other options and scale the remaining ones up to total 100%, its actually more like a minimum of 60% and thats IF all of the "not worth a sub" people are actually current players. Assuming that they aren't, and are made up partly of people who just did not even buy it due to the sub, the 60% or so goes up a bit more.
Anyway, thats just an estimate based on this awkward poll. As I said, best way to view it would be to get a yes or no poll of players who actually bought the game and wether or not they are resubbing.
Chose other.
I will not sub for the next month maybe when they release more content like the adventure zones I'll resub.
ESO just makes me want to go back and replay the old single player games.
They would have been better off investing their money in just making a solid multiplayer co-op game. ESO really doesnt have much of what makes the Elder Scrolls games so great. Namely, the large open world that YOU are impacting and participating in.
As an MMO its a decent game, but so was SWTOR, and Secret World, and Age of Conan, or any of the dozen or so others that blazed brightly for launch month then buckled under the weight of unfulfilled promise and expectation.
-Gooney
Subbed! Im looooving ti. Everything about it is great. Yes, Im a fan.
As for an AH, im already in 4 guilds, 3 or them have active AHs. My main guild of only 20 is for freinds, and friends of freinds, and for the guild bank.
Im not too keen on housing, never have beem. It ne nice, but not necessary.
Two Campaings to do stuff in Cyrodiil. One for Shard farming an questing, one for PvP.
The game has REALLY lived up to my expectations!
Purchased Imperial Edition and subbed for 6 months.
Then purchased a standard edition for my youngest and subbed her on a monthly.
Lar
Are you running Windows 8.1, and compatible hardware? The best results will always come from updating both your software hardware, and bios, drivers etc. Its what I did before I started playing eso, and I've had 0 problems.
OH BOY
I'll sub until Wildstar launches then give it a whirl... I like ESO well enough I just prefer a Sci-Fi theme over high fantasy...
So what is that another month for me.
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Then why bother at all? Seriously.Agreed and am doing just that i've never played more Skyrim. However i really like ESO for what it is too.
Finding when i want some mmo it's a much better option than swtor "atm" for me, and when i want quiet time Skyrim or ME3.