The mobs spawn about once a week for about a day and a half real time but only at in-game night cycle. Not all vamps are in guilds so ask in eso forum for free bite. I've seen them killing spawns but the spawns reappear in at least three different locations throughout the night. I got a vamp bite the last vamp spawn and a werewolf infection two WW spawns ago even with people killing spawns it still happens.
Unusually the local chat will get very active with actual sightings when they spawn and player will ask for and be given locations by non-greifers. Some players who sell bites are legit but why not wait for a free one. If you must buy a bite, buy it at night when there's a crowed around waiting for spawns. Most of the times players will identify scammers in chat as they offer bites for sale.
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Originally posted by Ticonz Lets be honest here... this is the price you pay for wanting to get a bite instead of earning it or finding a legitimate source to bite you. People are only selling bites because there are people willing to buy it.
You currently can't earn it. I have been at the spawns now for 3 bloodfiend spawns. The mobs spawned and they immediately were killed. They were dead before anyone could be touched by them. I had been trying to legitametly get biten (at the spawn) for almost 2 weeks since launch...I saw the bloodfiends spawn 3 times and they were insta-killed....so I finally decided to buy a bite.
As I said before, all of my guild members had already used their bites and they have month long waiting lists already for future bites.
I'm going to ask one time for this thread to not turn into a flaming session on me for attempting to buy a bite. If the only responses I get to this thread are flame/hate posts, I'll just ask a mod to close/delete it.
I'm not gonna flame you, but I have to ask what do you expect Zenimax to do about this? It's not like they're going to station a gm at the spot and force a single file line so everyone who wants it can get their bite. DId you try reloging until you were placed in a not so crowded phase? It works to circumvent the quest bugs, can't see why it wouldn't work here.
As for the scam, not that I support the practice as I don't, but it's something you have to be aware of in any game, sandbox or otherwise.
nothing.. system is working as intended, mobs spawn, players can get bit.. other players are smart enough to not want it to get too widespread and kill the mobs first, players rage and dont bother looking for other spawns... it's good, if people dont wanna take the time to earn something they believe "they need for their build" then they shouldnt have it... down with the entitled generation!
if you reported the player and sent a screenshot, that player has most likely been banned by ZOS.
be aware that ZOS will not inform you of their actions due to privacy issues.
Before we did the bite I added the player to my friends list. I haven't seen him online since the incident...I wonder if they banned him? I don't know if ZOS has the capability to restore gold, but it'd be nice to get it back (even though it isn't much).
They have the capability but I strongly doubt they will do so. You got scammed. Fair and square for lack of a better phrase. You say you knew the risks going into the transaction and accepted them yet here you are complaining when you fell victim to those very same risks.
I know a vampire IRL who will sell you a bite for $15,000.
Originally posted by Ticonz Lets be honest here... this is the price you pay for wanting to get a bite instead of earning it or finding a legitimate source to bite you. People are only selling bites because there are people willing to buy it.
You currently can't earn it. I have been at the spawns now for 3 bloodfiend spawns. The mobs spawned and they immediately were killed. They were dead before anyone could be touched by them. I had been trying to legitametly get biten (at the spawn) for almost 2 weeks since launch...I saw the bloodfiends spawn 3 times and they were insta-killed....so I finally decided to buy a bite.
As I said before, all of my guild members had already used their bites and they have month long waiting lists already for future bites.
I'm going to ask one time for this thread to not turn into a flaming session on me for attempting to buy a bite. If the only responses I get to this thread are flame/hate posts, I'll just ask a mod to close/delete it.
You can totally earn it. I have multiple friends who all got their bites from blood fiends this week. I know it can be frustrating that there are people who are killing the mobs so that they can have some sort of market on bites but they are only doing it because there are people who are willing to buy it. Im not trying to flame you with my comment... the choice was yours to make and its a 50/50 chance that you took whether the guy was being genuine about biting you. You got burned by your decision and that's okay.... and you know that.
Sometimes it pays to be patient and hopefully you won't pay someone to do something for you next time.
Thanks for clarifying. I appreciate what you're saying. The only reason I wasn't being patient was because I want to make sure my vamp skill line is leveled for when I hit vet content.
I have 60 hours of play time and I'm only level 36. I plan on PvP'ing pretty much exclusively once I hit vet 1.
i got my vamp bite at level 46.. it hit rank 10 by the time i was half way through vet 1.... you got 10 levels to farm your bite, cool your jets turbo
This is part of mmos...I think it' s great that nothing is ever known...so you have to think about everything you do all the way through. Personally...this is why all games in my opinion need owpvp with some type of karma system. Then you could have at least killed the bastard...lol.
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Originally posted by Ticonz Lets be honest here... this is the price you pay for wanting to get a bite instead of earning it or finding a legitimate source to bite you. People are only selling bites because there are people willing to buy it.
You currently can't earn it. I have been at the spawns now for 3 bloodfiend spawns. The mobs spawned and they immediately were killed. They were dead before anyone could be touched by them. I had been trying to legitametly get biten (at the spawn) for almost 2 weeks since launch...I saw the bloodfiends spawn 3 times and they were insta-killed....so I finally decided to buy a bite.
As I said before, all of my guild members had already used their bites and they have month long waiting lists already for future bites.
I'm going to ask one time for this thread to not turn into a flaming session on me for attempting to buy a bite. If the only responses I get to this thread are flame/hate posts, I'll just ask a mod to close/delete it.
I'm not gonna flame you, but I have to ask what do you expect Zenimax to do about this? It's not like they're going to station a gm at the spot and force a single file line so everyone who wants it can get their bite. DId you try reloging until you were placed in a not so crowded phase? It works to circumvent the quest bugs, can't see why it wouldn't work here.
As for the scam, not that I support the practice as I don't, but it's something you have to be aware of in any game, sandbox or otherwise.
Currently the mobs spawn in 4 places. These 4 places are kind of an "area" where the mobs can randomly spawn. I'd like to see the mobs spawn 100% randomly through-out the zone so that players can't just sit in one location and insta-kill them.
I'd also like to see the player "bite" go from a 7 day cooldown to a 1-month cooldown. This would make getting bitten the "legitimate" way much more viable...and make selling bites much less profitable.
As for the scam, I was completely aware it was basically a 50/50 chance. I felt 15k wasn't enough gold to worry about the risk. I just feel that the vamp/were system as a whole should change (like I said above) so that things kinds of things (griefing/scamming) can't happen.
if you reported the player and sent a screenshot, that player has most likely been banned by ZOS.
be aware that ZOS will not inform you of their actions due to privacy issues.
Before we did the bite I added the player to my friends list. I haven't seen him online since the incident...I wonder if they banned him? I don't know if ZOS has the capability to restore gold, but it'd be nice to get it back (even though it isn't much).
They have the capability but I strongly doubt they will do so. You got scammed. Fair and square for lack of a better phrase. You say you knew the risks going into the transaction and accepted them yet here you are complaining when you fell victim to those very same risks.
I know a vampire IRL who will sell you a bite for $15,000.
So there is currently a big issue, at least in my mind, with the vampire/werewolf system.
There are currently many guilds/role-players camping out the werewolf/vamp spawns and immediately killing the mobs so that nobody can acquire the skill lines. They do this to either simply grief players or to drive up the price on buying a "bite" from someone who is already a vampire or werewolf.
Because of this issue, I finally gave in and decided to buy a bite.
There's no way to avoid being scammed since the use of the skill isn't tied to the trading system. The "standard" is for the biter to get all of the gold up front because they hold all the power. If you don't want to give them the gold up front, there's an infinite amount of other customers who will.
So, I paid some guy 15k to get bitten. I traded him the 15k and then in chat he said, "Now repeat after me...I am a moron" and then logged off.
I'm not at all salty over 15k gold since it isn't very much. I understood that getting scammed was possible and I felt 15k wasn't enough to not go through with it. I just find it disheartening that ZOS would encourage such actions because of how they designed the vamp/were system. I of course reported this player immediately with a screenshot of the last bit of the conversation (that quote and then him leaving the party and logging off). This was 5 days ago and I have yet to hear a response from ZOS. I highly doubt anything will happen to this player and I highly doubt I'll get my 15k gold back.
How do you guys feel about the way vampire/werewolf works right now? I personally don't find the current system fun in any way. It isn't fun camping a spawn with 200 other people that you know are just going to screw you over. It's not fun risking your currency to buy a skill line from another player. And lastly, it isn't fun playing a game that has a community of scammers and griefers. Scamming and griefing is 100% acceptable in full-loot sandbox MMOs...but ESO certainly isn't one of those.
Thoughts?
I made this mistake once. My very first MMO, I traded a valuable collectable piece of art, much in the same fashion. I was young and inexperienced when it came to scamming. Want to know what happened after that?
I never made that mistake again. Care to guess how many times I've been scammed since then?
There is truth in your scammers' words. Just don't let the next person fool you.
Originally posted by Ticonz Lets be honest here... this is the price you pay for wanting to get a bite instead of earning it or finding a legitimate source to bite you. People are only selling bites because there are people willing to buy it.
You currently can't earn it. I have been at the spawns now for 3 bloodfiend spawns. The mobs spawned and they immediately were killed. They were dead before anyone could be touched by them. I had been trying to legitametly get biten (at the spawn) for almost 2 weeks since launch...I saw the bloodfiends spawn 3 times and they were insta-killed....so I finally decided to buy a bite.
As I said before, all of my guild members had already used their bites and they have month long waiting lists already for future bites.
I'm going to ask one time for this thread to not turn into a flaming session on me for attempting to buy a bite. If the only responses I get to this thread are flame/hate posts, I'll just ask a mod to close/delete it.
I'm not gonna flame you, but I have to ask what do you expect Zenimax to do about this? It's not like they're going to station a gm at the spot and force a single file line so everyone who wants it can get their bite. DId you try reloging until you were placed in a not so crowded phase? It works to circumvent the quest bugs, can't see why it wouldn't work here.
As for the scam, not that I support the practice as I don't, but it's something you have to be aware of in any game, sandbox or otherwise.
Currently the mobs spawn in 4 places. These 4 places are kind of an "area" where the mobs can randomly spawn. I'd like to see the mobs spawn 100% randomly through-out the zone so that players can't just sit in one location and insta-kill them.
I'd also like to see the player "bite" go from a 7 day cooldown to a 1-month cooldown. This would make getting bitten the "legitimate" way much more viable...and make selling bites much less profitable.
As for the scam, I was completely aware it was basically a 50/50 chance. I felt 15k wasn't enough gold to worry about the risk. I just feel that the vamp/were system as a whole should change (like I said above) so that things kinds of things (griefing/scamming) can't happen.
Not that your idea is bad, it's just that history tells me creating more spawns really wouldn't fix the problem if players are this dedicated to doing what they're doing. WHich I find what they're doing pretty ridiculous. Sounds like a bunch of hipster vamps, don't want the rest to be as "cool" as they are.
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Originally posted by SirBalin This is part of mmos...I think it' s great that nothing is ever known...so you have to think about everything you do all the way through. Personally...this is why all games in my opinion need owpvp with some type of karma system. Then you could have at least killed the bastard...lol.
Yeah I mean, you and I are both old DF1 players...so I think we're on the same page.
Scamming and griefing is a super fun aspect of games where you can seek revenge and kill other players. As much as I wish ESO had open world PvP or full-loot, that just isn't the case.
The issue here is the people killing mobs to stop others getting a 'rare drop' aka bite - that should be a significant ban if proven. The rest is just the normal I feel I should be entitled to get anything I want disease.
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Originally posted by Ticonz Lets be honest here... this is the price you pay for wanting to get a bite instead of earning it or finding a legitimate source to bite you. People are only selling bites because there are people willing to buy it.
You currently can't earn it. I have been at the spawns now for 3 bloodfiend spawns. The mobs spawned and they immediately were killed. They were dead before anyone could be touched by them. I had been trying to legitametly get biten (at the spawn) for almost 2 weeks since launch...I saw the bloodfiends spawn 3 times and they were insta-killed....so I finally decided to buy a bite.
As I said before, all of my guild members had already used their bites and they have month long waiting lists already for future bites.
I'm going to ask one time for this thread to not turn into a flaming session on me for attempting to buy a bite. If the only responses I get to this thread are flame/hate posts, I'll just ask a mod to close/delete it.
I'm not gonna flame you, but I have to ask what do you expect Zenimax to do about this? It's not like they're going to station a gm at the spot and force a single file line so everyone who wants it can get their bite. DId you try reloging until you were placed in a not so crowded phase? It works to circumvent the quest bugs, can't see why it wouldn't work here.
As for the scam, not that I support the practice as I don't, but it's something you have to be aware of in any game, sandbox or otherwise.
Currently the mobs spawn in 4 places. These 4 places are kind of an "area" where the mobs can randomly spawn. I'd like to see the mobs spawn 100% randomly through-out the zone so that players can't just sit in one location and insta-kill them.
I'd also like to see the player "bite" go from a 7 day cooldown to a 1-month cooldown. This would make getting bitten the "legitimate" way much more viable...and make selling bites much less profitable.
As for the scam, I was completely aware it was basically a 50/50 chance. I felt 15k wasn't enough gold to worry about the risk. I just feel that the vamp/were system as a whole should change (like I said above) so that things kinds of things (griefing/scamming) can't happen.
Not that your idea is bad, it's just that history tells me creating more spawns really wouldn't fix the problem if players are this dedicated to doing what they're doing. WHich I find what they're doing pretty ridiculous. Sounds like a bunch of hipster vamps, don't want the rest to be as "cool" as they are.
Yeah I don't disagree..it'd just be a lot harder for them. I saw a vet 5 guy named Van Helsing one of these nights killing the bloodfiends. That was actually pretty funny. There's people in my own clan who are camping the spawns so that they can kill the bloodfiends and drive up the price of their vamp bites. A guy in my clan got 50k for a bite yesterday. Some of our werewolf guys are getting 20k-30k for bites as well.
Whatever the reasons behind why someone is griefing other players... it shouldn't be tolerated. Not in a game like this. ZOS designed an extremely exploitable and grief-able system...and they need to correct that. Whether or not I personally get my 15k back is completely meaningless and not what I'm asking for in this thread.
Originally posted by Bladestrom The issue here is the people killing mobs to stop others getting a 'rare drop' aka bite - that should be a significant ban if proven.
They're not really stopping people though. If people are selling bites then it's already spreading regardless of these people wasting their lives being ass holes. Really we should all be laughing at the dedication of these morons that are willing to sit there hour after hour trying to hold water back with their hands.
Banning someone for killing a world spawn would be pretty absurd. If they really wanted there to be no contest over them they should be instanced with a big stupid ! over their heads.
So you were impatient, took a complete risk by giving away 15K gold to a total stranger in the hopes of getting a "bite", and got scammed.
Now you're blaming ZOS for their "poorly designed game" ?
Priceless !
The scamming is a result of a poorly designed system.
I'm not blaming ZOS for allowing me to get scammed. I'm blaming them for implementing a god awful system (how to obtain the vamp/were skill lines) that encourages people to scam.
I shouldn't have to buy a bite. I shouldn't have to camp a spawn for WEEKS only to get griefed by other players.
Griefing like this is 100% acceptable in a game where you can kill other players. You can't kill other places in these zones and thus makes the griefing completely unacceptable.
Your impatience is not ZOS' fault. You getting scammed, while sad for you, is not their fault.
Did you even try to ask the people around you to not kill the things that are supposed to bite you?
Again, I blame you and the person that scammed you...this is not a poor design. Vampires/wolves are not supposed to be rampant in the world. Seems like the system is working and you made someone 15k richer.
So you were impatient, took a complete risk by giving away 15K gold to a total stranger in the hopes of getting a "bite", and got scammed.
Now you're blaming ZOS for their "poorly designed game" ?
Priceless !
The scamming is a result of a poorly designed system.
I'm not blaming ZOS for allowing me to get scammed. I'm blaming them for implementing a god awful system (how to obtain the vamp/were skill lines) that encourages people to scam.
I shouldn't have to buy a bite. I shouldn't have to camp a spawn for WEEKS only to get griefed by other players.
Griefing like this is 100% acceptable in a game where you can kill other players. You can't kill other places in these zones and thus makes the griefing completely unacceptable.
Your impatience is not ZOS' fault. You getting scammed, while sad for you, is not their fault.
Did you even try to ask the people around you to not kill the things that are supposed to bite you?
Again, I blame you and the person that scammed you...this is not a poor design. Vampires/wolves are not supposed to be rampant in the world. Seems like the system is working and you made someone 15k richer.
Sorry.
The player was banned it appears, so they aren't 15k gold richer.
Did I ask the 100-200 people around me to not grief me? Yeah, I sent them all signed personal letters.
It is a poor design. Video games are supposed to be fun and this system isn't fun. The system was meant to make vamp/were feel "special" when it doesn't do that either.
When you design something and it doesn't work the way you intended, it's a bad design.
Originally posted by Hellidol If you take a SS of it and report him he will get perma ban, its in the user agreement.....
This is pretty much your only recourse. From what I've heard, most MMOs will enforce verbal trade agreements and return gold/punish scammers who break them, obviously not with EvE, but that's why they have the contract system.
Continuing to post here is only going to get you flamed by the "QQ moar" folks.
Whatever the reasons behind why someone is griefing other players... it shouldn't be tolerated. Not in a game like this. ZOS designed an extremely exploitable and grief-able system...and they need to correct that. Whether or not I personally get my 15k back is completely meaningless and not what I'm asking for in this thread.
I was about to disagree with you and say something like "the only way they could fix it is to make the werewolves and vampires common mobs so anyone that wants them can get it at any time, but then it wouldn't be rare/unique anymore".
Giving it a little thought...it should be easily available to everyone. I believe this because it's not a cosmetic item. If all it did was made you look like a werewolf/vampire then sure make it rare. But there are actual skill lines available and they do have drawbacks. It would be much more interesting if he was easy to get turned but harder to be cured...or gain immunity. Just my opinion.
Originally posted by Hellidol If you take a SS of it and report him he will get perma ban, its in the user agreement.....
i dont remember reading in the agreement that if you kill the WW / Vamp that 50 people are currently camping, you get a permanent ban... infact if im on my WW and i go on a murderous spree on spawning WW's it's RP, i have a seething hated for the WW and want to exact my revenge, not griefing at all, just playing my character.. vice verse with the WW if i was killing Vamps... and if i was human killing them both.. well i'm a hunter
thats stupid you think people are going to get banned for killing the mobs.. ZOS stated they wanted it to be rare n such.. people culling the numbers arent going to get banned.. it isnt anywhere in the TOS
So you were impatient, took a complete risk by giving away 15K gold to a total stranger in the hopes of getting a "bite", and got scammed.
Now you're blaming ZOS for their "poorly designed game" ?
Priceless !
The scamming is a result of a poorly designed system.
I'm not blaming ZOS for allowing me to get scammed. I'm blaming them for implementing a god awful system (how to obtain the vamp/were skill lines) that encourages people to scam.
I shouldn't have to buy a bite. I shouldn't have to camp a spawn for WEEKS only to get griefed by other players.
Griefing like this is 100% acceptable in a game where you can kill other players. You can't kill other places in these zones and thus makes the griefing completely unacceptable.
Your impatience is not ZOS' fault. You getting scammed, while sad for you, is not their fault.
Did you even try to ask the people around you to not kill the things that are supposed to bite you?
Again, I blame you and the person that scammed you...this is not a poor design. Vampires/wolves are not supposed to be rampant in the world. Seems like the system is working and you made someone 15k richer.
Sorry.
The player was banned it appears, so they aren't 15k gold richer.
Did I ask the 100-200 people around me to not grief me? Yeah, I sent them all signed personal letters.
It is a poor design. Video games are supposed to be fun and this system isn't fun. The system was meant to make vamp/were feel "special" when it doesn't do that either.
When you design something and it doesn't work the way you intended, it's a bad design.
Sorry.
the system isnt fun for YOU one player, who feels obliged to get a vampire bite because his whole build depends on it... maybe play something else till you're fortunate enough to get what you want instead of seeming entitled to something that you were never gauranteed to have in the first place?
So you were impatient, took a complete risk by giving away 15K gold to a total stranger in the hopes of getting a "bite", and got scammed.
Now you're blaming ZOS for their "poorly designed game" ?
Priceless !
The scamming is a result of a poorly designed system.
I'm not blaming ZOS for allowing me to get scammed. I'm blaming them for implementing a god awful system (how to obtain the vamp/were skill lines) that encourages people to scam.
I shouldn't have to buy a bite. I shouldn't have to camp a spawn for WEEKS only to get griefed by other players.
Griefing like this is 100% acceptable in a game where you can kill other players. You can't kill other places in these zones and thus makes the griefing completely unacceptable.
Your impatience is not ZOS' fault. You getting scammed, while sad for you, is not their fault.
Did you even try to ask the people around you to not kill the things that are supposed to bite you?
Again, I blame you and the person that scammed you...this is not a poor design. Vampires/wolves are not supposed to be rampant in the world. Seems like the system is working and you made someone 15k richer.
Sorry.
The player was banned it appears, so they aren't 15k gold richer.
Did I ask the 100-200 people around me to not grief me? Yeah, I sent them all signed personal letters.
It is a poor design. Video games are supposed to be fun and this system isn't fun. The system was meant to make vamp/were feel "special" when it doesn't do that either.
When you design something and it doesn't work the way you intended, it's a bad design.
Sorry.
Vampirism is in check. Seems to be working. They are not supposed to be the entire populace. Heck, even if it is not working how ZOS wants it to (kind of presumptuous of you to assume you know), it still seems to be working out ok. Just because you are having poor luck doesn't mean it's impossible to do.
How do you know the guy was banned? Do you chat with him out of game or something? Did he send you an email?
So you didn't even try to ask? There's a little thing called zone chat. Try it.
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There are to many vamps/wolves as is. I hope they not only keep the system in place, but make it even harder to get infected. In the off chance you do get infected, DON'T PLAY WITH FIRE. It might burn a bit more than normal.
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The mobs spawn about once a week for about a day and a half real time but only at in-game night cycle. Not all vamps are in guilds so ask in eso forum for free bite. I've seen them killing spawns but the spawns reappear in at least three different locations throughout the night. I got a vamp bite the last vamp spawn and a werewolf infection two WW spawns ago even with people killing spawns it still happens.
Unusually the local chat will get very active with actual sightings when they spawn and player will ask for and be given locations by non-greifers. Some players who sell bites are legit but why not wait for a free one. If you must buy a bite, buy it at night when there's a crowed around waiting for spawns. Most of the times players will identify scammers in chat as they offer bites for sale.
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nothing.. system is working as intended, mobs spawn, players can get bit.. other players are smart enough to not want it to get too widespread and kill the mobs first, players rage and dont bother looking for other spawns... it's good, if people dont wanna take the time to earn something they believe "they need for their build" then they shouldnt have it... down with the entitled generation!
His name was Dragim and I hear he's also a gold spammer. He scams people out of money then sells it to others.
See why name and shame is stupid ?
They have the capability but I strongly doubt they will do so. You got scammed. Fair and square for lack of a better phrase. You say you knew the risks going into the transaction and accepted them yet here you are complaining when you fell victim to those very same risks.
I know a vampire IRL who will sell you a bite for $15,000.
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i got my vamp bite at level 46.. it hit rank 10 by the time i was half way through vet 1.... you got 10 levels to farm your bite, cool your jets turbo
A fool and his money are soon separated.
When you deal with griefers, you deserve to get griefed. You get from me the same sympathy as a person who buys gold and gets scammed.
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Currently the mobs spawn in 4 places. These 4 places are kind of an "area" where the mobs can randomly spawn. I'd like to see the mobs spawn 100% randomly through-out the zone so that players can't just sit in one location and insta-kill them.
I'd also like to see the player "bite" go from a 7 day cooldown to a 1-month cooldown. This would make getting bitten the "legitimate" way much more viable...and make selling bites much less profitable.
As for the scam, I was completely aware it was basically a 50/50 chance. I felt 15k wasn't enough gold to worry about the risk. I just feel that the vamp/were system as a whole should change (like I said above) so that things kinds of things (griefing/scamming) can't happen.
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I made this mistake once. My very first MMO, I traded a valuable collectable piece of art, much in the same fashion. I was young and inexperienced when it came to scamming. Want to know what happened after that?
I never made that mistake again. Care to guess how many times I've been scammed since then?
There is truth in your scammers' words. Just don't let the next person fool you.
Not that your idea is bad, it's just that history tells me creating more spawns really wouldn't fix the problem if players are this dedicated to doing what they're doing. WHich I find what they're doing pretty ridiculous. Sounds like a bunch of hipster vamps, don't want the rest to be as "cool" as they are.
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Yeah I mean, you and I are both old DF1 players...so I think we're on the same page.
Scamming and griefing is a super fun aspect of games where you can seek revenge and kill other players. As much as I wish ESO had open world PvP or full-loot, that just isn't the case.
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and breaks the ToS here and on ESo forums. It would actually get the OP and infraction rather than the perp.
Yeah I don't disagree..it'd just be a lot harder for them. I saw a vet 5 guy named Van Helsing one of these nights killing the bloodfiends. That was actually pretty funny. There's people in my own clan who are camping the spawns so that they can kill the bloodfiends and drive up the price of their vamp bites. A guy in my clan got 50k for a bite yesterday. Some of our werewolf guys are getting 20k-30k for bites as well.
Whatever the reasons behind why someone is griefing other players... it shouldn't be tolerated. Not in a game like this. ZOS designed an extremely exploitable and grief-able system...and they need to correct that. Whether or not I personally get my 15k back is completely meaningless and not what I'm asking for in this thread.
They're not really stopping people though. If people are selling bites then it's already spreading regardless of these people wasting their lives being ass holes. Really we should all be laughing at the dedication of these morons that are willing to sit there hour after hour trying to hold water back with their hands.
Banning someone for killing a world spawn would be pretty absurd. If they really wanted there to be no contest over them they should be instanced with a big stupid ! over their heads.
Your impatience is not ZOS' fault. You getting scammed, while sad for you, is not their fault.
Did you even try to ask the people around you to not kill the things that are supposed to bite you?
Again, I blame you and the person that scammed you...this is not a poor design. Vampires/wolves are not supposed to be rampant in the world. Seems like the system is working and you made someone 15k richer.
Sorry.
The player was banned it appears, so they aren't 15k gold richer.
Did I ask the 100-200 people around me to not grief me? Yeah, I sent them all signed personal letters.
It is a poor design. Video games are supposed to be fun and this system isn't fun. The system was meant to make vamp/were feel "special" when it doesn't do that either.
When you design something and it doesn't work the way you intended, it's a bad design.
Sorry.
This is pretty much your only recourse. From what I've heard, most MMOs will enforce verbal trade agreements and return gold/punish scammers who break them, obviously not with EvE, but that's why they have the contract system.
Continuing to post here is only going to get you flamed by the "QQ moar" folks.
I did and it appears the player was banned.
This one idiot getting banned though still doesn't resolve the issue. The way of obtaining the vampire/werewolf skill lines needs to be re-worked.
I was about to disagree with you and say something like "the only way they could fix it is to make the werewolves and vampires common mobs so anyone that wants them can get it at any time, but then it wouldn't be rare/unique anymore".
Giving it a little thought...it should be easily available to everyone. I believe this because it's not a cosmetic item. If all it did was made you look like a werewolf/vampire then sure make it rare. But there are actual skill lines available and they do have drawbacks. It would be much more interesting if he was easy to get turned but harder to be cured...or gain immunity. Just my opinion.
i dont remember reading in the agreement that if you kill the WW / Vamp that 50 people are currently camping, you get a permanent ban... infact if im on my WW and i go on a murderous spree on spawning WW's it's RP, i have a seething hated for the WW and want to exact my revenge, not griefing at all, just playing my character.. vice verse with the WW if i was killing Vamps... and if i was human killing them both.. well i'm a hunter
thats stupid you think people are going to get banned for killing the mobs.. ZOS stated they wanted it to be rare n such.. people culling the numbers arent going to get banned.. it isnt anywhere in the TOS
the system isnt fun for YOU one player, who feels obliged to get a vampire bite because his whole build depends on it... maybe play something else till you're fortunate enough to get what you want instead of seeming entitled to something that you were never gauranteed to have in the first place?
Vampirism is in check. Seems to be working. They are not supposed to be the entire populace. Heck, even if it is not working how ZOS wants it to (kind of presumptuous of you to assume you know), it still seems to be working out ok. Just because you are having poor luck doesn't mean it's impossible to do.
How do you know the guy was banned? Do you chat with him out of game or something? Did he send you an email?
So you didn't even try to ask? There's a little thing called zone chat. Try it.
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There are to many vamps/wolves as is. I hope they not only keep the system in place, but make it even harder to get infected. In the off chance you do get infected, DON'T PLAY WITH FIRE. It might burn a bit more than normal.
LOL