Already subbed. The game has its share of problems but ZM are taking care of them. The game is the best mmo on the market right now. Can'w wait to see it in a few months.
Yuppers totally subbed, few bumps no issues beyond that. IMO the graphics are pretty good i play ULTRA settings and sometimes just look around at the cool looking areas. The particle effects on the weapons are good as well as the spells. Some of the NPC's are hilarious, I cant remember the name of the one but he wears a pot on his head? very funny along with others.
Also some folks complaining Tamairel does not have enough color...well the land is suppose to have a dark and dank look to it.
And dare I say how awesome the weather effects are? The crack of thunder has GOT to be a real recording....great sound for sure.
Just to answer OP's question: I unsubbed 7 days ago. I also asked for a refund and still waiting.
Sorry to "derail" this thread but really, i am answering the OP's question.
Stages of a new mmo: 1) It's just beta. It still has plenty of time before release. 2) It just launched. Give it time. WoW wasn't built in a day. 3) We don't need you anyway. 4) F2P announced. 5)Huge influx of players. 6) Look how much has changed. 7) Cash shop is the only thing developed lately. 8) It has been a long journey and we thank everyone who was part of it. Shutting down in 3 months. (Courtesy of Robokapp.)
I totally love this game. Ive been playing since headstart and am still only level 22 and have only 1 char.
This is most likely coz my bags are constantly full and i have to return to town and transfer alot to my mules, takes up alot of time. The one annoying thing. Then again i save up to many mats lol !! Im provisioner and alchemist btw.
The other reason im leveling slow is coz i thoroughly enjoy exploring in this game and doing all the quests. I listen to the great voice acting and try to feel involved. I wander off the path constantly to explore every corner around every rock.
Im in no hurry to reach 50. I Always enjoy the path to max level the most since in most mmo's once you reach level cap all there's left to do is daily grinds, behh, or wait for dungeon groups.
ofcourse in eso end game is a completely different thing for me since i love pvp in cyrodill so i have that waiting for me. Still im in no hurry to reach level cap whatsoever. I simply enjoy the pve content way to much.
The dungeons are awesome i think. Specially after having played gw2 for a long time in which i hated the dungeons. The dungeons in eso are really good and definately way better then gw2's. Dont get wrong though ive played many mmorpg's non stop over the last 10 years. For me daoc was my first and best ever and cyrodill reminds me alot of daoc pvp so i cant wait to have glorious times in that zone.
Since ive played old style games too like darkfall, a more recent game although still a few years old by now, daoc, the first everquest, anarchy online etc etc i love the way eso plays. For me it feels like playing an old-style mmorpg again, finally. I hated the crap easy and boring grab 30 quests and grind and follow a set path mmorpg's that have been comming out since the first days of wow. I hate that in allt hose mmorpgs crafting was pointless. I hated they had an auction house which means everything is readily available for you and rewards or drops mean nothing since you'll Always have better from ah.
Many complain about there not being an Ah in eso but im happy there is none. Having an ah in is like playing diablo 3 with an auction house in which nothing that drops matters since you can Always buy the best. It makes the game boring. Now every drop can be an improvement for me which is great ! Ah's have been a plague to mmorpgs.
For me elder scrolls online has been the best game in many years. It truely is that awesome. However i can imagine the style of combat etc isnt for everyone but like i said im used to it from older mmorpgs and the more recent darkfall.
All i want in an mmorpg is immersion and eso gives me that.
Class depth is awesome too. I can have a completely different build then the guy next to me. You can experiment however you like. There's so many passives and skill lines to invest in, besides the craft skill lines on top of that. Its awesome. On top of that if you want every class can take tanking or healing skills if you want to be any of that.
public dungeons are a blast too. I love seeing others in the same dungeon !! Some quests start in a dungeon and you'r there with others who are on that quest too and then the final part of the quest you are in your solo instance having to kill a tough boss.
The game is also made for experimenting. Plenty people say pve is easy. It is in a sense but thats only when you build optimal. The game has to be balanced so that people that drop alot of points in craft skills or arent going for an optimal build so they can experiment have a chance too. For them the game will Always be a nice challenge and certainly not easy.
The bug do not bother to me to much yet btw. eso is unpolished yes but its very stable for me.
I totally love this game. Its definately the best ive played in many years. Im having such a blast and even after playing a couple weeks i still say in guild chat how awesome this game is !!
If you play this game with the wrong mentallity your missing out coz with the right mentallity its far superior to most mmo's.
Loved it and played it hardcore until the bank bug hit me last weekend. Stopped playing until a fix, but got suspended as part of the mass "ban wave" yesterday.
At some point the suspension was quietly lifted, in both cases without warning or explanation. Given the chance to access my account again, I quickly unsubscribed and have requested a refund.
I had high hopes for the game and want it to succeed, but they've lost me as a customer and I'm not seeing a future with this company. All I care about now is getting my money back.
I hope those of you who haven't had these problems and stay with it enjoy it as much as I did before trouble struck, and that ZOS gets itself and the game straightened out sooner rather than later.
Good luck!
Groupthink: Why dissent cannot be tolerated in gaming forums.
Nightblade class has some broken abilties. The UI lags in pvp. Broken quests including main quest limiting access to VR content.
The story is well done enough, but there are too many lacking features.
There are some nice aspects of the game but it seems a lot went into just VO, combat, and the world design.
If you took that away you would have almost nothing left but a simple crafting mini game over complicated by the exp hurdle which ofc is undone when you share crafting with other players (which imo is rewarding exploits. why should crafting reward people who technically decontruct other s crafts? how does that make it any better than drops?)
PvP is quite simple as well. It requires finding your own place in the pvp end game wether it be large group or small group. However it feels limited to just that with no exp reward as well for kills for example. No player bounty, no hunting wrewolves/vampires mechanics, and no traps or player created content for castles.
Also no player housing to reward exploring.
There are some nice features in the game... but im surprised by how little this game has to offer considering their budget. Im not talking about the number of quests/quests chains but everything else and how layered or lack of those aspects are.
For example the costs of mounts and limited bag space. No auction house as well. This makes for annoying situations and of interdependance with high repair costs just from questing which means people have to micro manage their crafts, repairs and other expense to maintain enough money on top of that... meanwhile aoe exp grinders get a quick ride to end game avoiding most of these nuances of the game. (again it rewards groups too much and punishing solo play) And the benefit of reaching end game quicker is that they have access to end game if they are not restricted by the bug and make more money to afford repairs much easier and can ignore crafts by just buying or finding things real quick from aoe'ing huge groups of mobs.
Frankly, I lost trust in all reviwers that these features were not reviewed by others to shed light before purchasing the game. Especially since nightblade as something that has broken abilities was over shadowed by the hype train of others.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
Tons and tons of fun. Altough some things i am realy anoyed with like going to town again to empty bags and distribute things to my mules wich takes away alot of game time.
The pvp quest turned into a daily was also uncalled for and is something i am realy disapointed with as i loved to level abit trough AvA.
Many bugged quest seems to be fixed now and thats a good thing.
It has to be seen how long people will enjoy ESO, but for the time being i am sold to Zenimax. I just hope they are going to offer abit more choice then leveing trough questing alone.
Going trough my second alt as i have 1 at 50 and my alt at 26 but no way in hell my third alt is going trough the same story again. So i hope Zenimax offers me abit of diversion in Cyrodill as currently you just cannot level in pvp and thats a big big nono for me as the pvp is just to good to skip untill V1+
Nightblade class has some broken abilties. The UI lags in pvp. Broken quests including main quest limiting access to VR content.
The story is well done enough, but there are too many lacking features.
There are some nice aspects of the game but it seems a lot went into just VO, combat, and the world design.
If you took that away you would have almost nothing left but a simple crafting mini game over complicated by the exp hurdle which ofc is undone when you share crafting with other players (which imo is rewarding exploits. why should crafting reward people who technically decontruct other s crafts? how does that make it any better than drops?)
PvP is quite simple as well. It requires finding your own place in the pvp end game wether it be large group or small group. However it feels limited to just that with no exp reward as well for kills for example. No player bounty, no hunting wrewolves/vampires mechanics, and no traps or player created content for castles.
Also no player housing to reward exploring.
There are some nice features in the game... but im surprised by how little this game has to offer considering their budget. Im not talking about the number of quests/quests chains but everything else and how layered or lack of those aspects are.
For example the costs of mounts and limited bag space. No auction house as well. This makes for annoying situations and of interdependance with high repair costs just from questing which means people have to micro manage their crafts, repairs and other expense to maintain enough money on top of that... meanwhile aoe exp grinders get a quick ride to end game avoiding most of these nuances of the game. (again it rewards groups too much and punishing solo play) And the benefit of reaching end game quicker is that they have access to end game if they are not restricted by the bug and make more money to afford repairs much easier and can ignore crafts by just buying or finding things real quick from aoe'ing huge groups of mobs.
Frankly, I lost trust in all reviwers that these features were not reviewed by others to shed light before purchasing the game. Especially since nightblade as something that has broken abilities was over shadowed by the hype train of others.
Im curious what your issue is with Nightblade abilities.
Nope... bugs ruined it for me. Most annoying being the combat bug where my character would just stop attacking. I have lost count how many times i have died to that. And now the whole duping thing left bad taste in my mouth. Knowing well that people in my guild who duped and were left off with just a warning... i can no longer support this game so i cancelled my sub.
People have reported certain abilities not triggering, and hast not having the intended effect of speeding attacks and also marked target not reducing armor.
The class as a single target damage dealer is way too underpowered in the assassination tree.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
I still play, have two weeks left of the free month. But the duping exploit and the way Zenimax dealt with it killed my confidence in the company, so long term commitment is out of the question. MMO is not a product, it is a service and they dropped the ball big time with all the exploit and hack and bot fest that is going on. On top of that they just feed people plain bullshit ("...we recently identified a bug and acted quickly..."). I hoped TESO may become something like EVE Online just in fantasy setting, it had the right server, crafting and economy design do do just that, but the approach of Zenimax to the game and its issues is more of a Failcom- like than CCP.
My wife and I are currently Veteran Rank 2, and now it feels like we hit a brick wall in terms of progression. Not to say it's bad per se, it reminds me of Lineage 2 progression back in it's vanilla days, very long grinding away just to get 1 level (Or veteran rank in this case). The over world instancing to replay from other factions has been neat but it's starting to feel meh to us, the story doesn't feel quite as good as when you were dealing with the prophet in between during your original questing. Either way I find that it was worth our money spent to at least get a good month out of it.
But I don't think we'll be resubbing, we've enjoyed our beta experiences with another game a little bit more. Once they were work out the hundreds of bugs and tweak things around and make werewolf not as useless as it is currently, I'm sure things will become easier to pass along to other folk to jump in and have some good subscription worthy gaming time.
Just my opinion though, I see plenty of people still downright enjoying themselves, the one thing that keeps me pinned at the moment is the PVP.
People have reported certain abilities not triggering, and hast not having the intended effect of speeding attacks and also marked target not reducing armor.
The class as a single target damage dealer is way too underpowered in the assassination tree.
Ah. Haven't gotten around to either Marked target or Haste yet so wasn't aware of any issues with those. I have to disagree with the damage aspect though. Perhaps with certain builds and gear it is an issue, but compared to several other builds I have tried with each of the classes I find it to be one of the best. Especially with proper use of Assassin's Blade or it's morphed versions as well as the killing power of a charged up Death Stroke. I do a lot of solo roaming in Cyrodiil and can drop most people I come across before they can do much of anything.
Though I play a NB Archer build, not a melee. So perhaps it is an issue with melee builds combined with the class, or more specifically what I assume most people spccing Assassin are doing and dual wielding.Typically for me a stealth heavy attack + poison arrow + strife is enough to bring most people in PvP down enough to execute with Assassins Blade. Sometimes a couple extra hits are need to get over that 25% hump, but thats usually on more tanky builds. Mobs I typically dont even have to use Strife, or if I do it brings them so low that Assassin's Blade isn't worth using for the Magicka cost.
Maybe it's more an issue with sustained DPS on tougher enemies / longer fights (like dungeon bosses and such), i could see that being an issue I guess. Though if you're rotating Ambush + Heavy attack or Strife I would think it wouldn't be an issue. As far as raw spike damage coming out of stealth you kill things ridiculously fast.
I still play, have two weeks left of the free month. But the duping exploit and the way Zenimax dealt with it killed my confidence in the company, so long term commitment is out of the question. MMO is not a product, it is a service and they dropped the ball big time with all the exploit and hack and bot fest that is going on. On top of that they just feed people plain bullshit ("...we recently identified a bug and acted quickly..."). I hoped TESO may become something like EVE Online just in fantasy setting, it had the right server, crafting and economy design do do just that, but the approach of Zenimax to the game and its issues is more of a Failcom- like than CCP.
I've seen a few people making comments like this about the duping situation. I wonder if you are one of the people who "knew" the duping issue existed for weeks, I mean actually knew it not someone who read the amazon review or some nonsense which doesnt actually show / prove anything. And if so why you and / or others are just now complaining about it and deciding to quit rather than making it a big issue this whole time?
Just seems a bit ridiculous that all of these people suddenly pop up claiming they knew about the issue, reported it, etc but kept quiet about it this whole time and waited for them to fix the problem then raise a big stink about it after the fact. Not only that, but also the fact that people seem to like acting like this is the 1st time a game has had issues with duping.
I am playing ArcheAge, well its my personal opinion but I have much better time playing ArcheAge than ESO or Wildstar...and I had much better time testing Wildstar then ESO :-), still ESO is fine game.
I still play, have two weeks left of the free month. But the duping exploit and the way Zenimax dealt with it killed my confidence in the company, so long term commitment is out of the question. MMO is not a product, it is a service and they dropped the ball big time with all the exploit and hack and bot fest that is going on. On top of that they just feed people plain bullshit ("...we recently identified a bug and acted quickly..."). I hoped TESO may become something like EVE Online just in fantasy setting, it had the right server, crafting and economy design do do just that, but the approach of Zenimax to the game and its issues is more of a Failcom- like than CCP.
I've seen a few people making comments like this about the duping situation. I wonder if you are one of the people who "knew" the duping issue existed for weeks, I mean actually knew it not someone who read the amazon review or some nonsense which doesnt actually show / prove anything. And if so why you and / or others are just now complaining about it and deciding to quit rather than making it a big issue this whole time?
Just seems a bit ridiculous that all of these people suddenly pop up claiming they knew about the issue, reported it, etc but kept quiet about it this whole time and waited for them to fix the problem then raise a big stink about it after the fact. Not only that, but also the fact that people seem to like acting like this is the 1st time a game has had issues with duping.
And? still doesn't mean its ok and should be ignored.
For a lot of people this could be their first MMO. Are you asking us to get used to it because this is something that happens in every MMO? why are you being so apologetic on behalf of Zenimax?
I did not play beta so I did not knwo but I was made aware of it right after I bought the game. Guildmates were talking freely about it, some were using it, some not. But the common opinion was that this is a well known issue to Zenimax becasue there were reports of this in beta. TBH I did not understand the whole scope of it until I saw some video on YT.
My wife and I aren't even level 20 yet. We don't have a lot of time to play most weeks, and when we do, we take our time.
So I have YEARS worth of entertainment coming out of this game.
Still looking for a lifetime sub option...
Cool man- Let us know how that works out for you- Your YEARS of content .
That means you wont be here looking for nor discussing another game since you will be far too busy with the YEARS of content that ESO is providing you-
Thing is (in general- Not just picking on you here) many of the same people saying similar things about TOR and GW2 are NOW saying the same thing about ESO. Several people here (currently on the eSO hype train) specifically stated that GW2 is the only game they will ever need because its so great. And SWTOR was going to be one of the deepest and best MMORPG experiences ever... Now they are saying the SAME thing about ESO.
These people remind me of my best friend. He is a good guy and means well BUT he is nearing 40 and has never had a relationship last longer than 6 months... He ALWAYS has a new girl- AND he ALWAYS (as in ever single time) thinks shes the BEST of the bunch, finally the ONE , she is different than all the other women he has dated- During the first couple months when everything is new...Then its "On to the next one"
Can we stop saying how a game is "The best" or "Has sooo much content" until you have at least been playing for 6 months. I have tried nearly EVERY MMORPG out and for the most part they all look great during the first month or two- They ALL look like they have massive content- Yet, to talk about an MMO while at level 20 and praise it for having YEARS of content is just...Uninformed.
-Not saying it does or doesnt (I think not, personally) just saying- Come back in a YEAR and tell us the same. It almost never happens by those who overhype and jump games every few months to hype and praise the next FOTM.
Originally posted by Vallador I did not play beta so I did not knwo but I was made aware of it right after I bought the game. Guildmates were talking freely about it, some were using it, some not. But the common opinion was that this is a well known issue to Zenimax becasue there were reports of this in beta.
So again I ask why are people just now making a big deal out of it? Everyone is quick to give them shit about it now that it's become public knowledge, yet what were all of you doing this whole time? Where were all these constant complaints that this duping issue exists and it is being ignored before yesterday? You (maybe not you specifically, but your guild mates) were all perfectly content to go ahead and dupe items and go on playing when it wasn't a widespread issue, but now that the dupe has been outed some people are suddenly upset about it. I guess it's cool if a cheat exists as long as it's benefiting these people, but once it gets taken away they like to complain about it.
Am I really the only person who thinks it is ridiculous? It doesn't make ZOS ignoring the issue if they were aware of it OK or anything like that. I'm simply pointing out people's attitudes. It's like watching someone go to a discreet brothel for years, but then the brothel becomes public knowledge and that same person goes on a crusade to get it shut down because "prostitution is wrong" and they're trying to impress someone with their morals. It's like, really... you've been doing it this whole time but all of a sudden you want to make an issue of it now that your secret has been exposed?
I guess the worst part of it is that people actually convince themselves that they were somehow in the right, and not a part of the problem, but now want to act all righteous.
@Bigdaddy. Again, it has to do with people's attitudes. Lots of people who have been playing MMOs for years, and who have been through all of this before in multiple games, are acting like they just got their MMO cherry popped. For some that may be true, but please don't act like that's the case for most of the people complaining in nearly every thread when they have been coming here for years and make the same complaints with every game, but then move on to something new because it's the trendy thing to complain about and suddenly seem to forget that the last game they played also had similar issues. It's not being apologetic (do you even understand the term?). It's simply pointing out a fact. This stuff happens in games. Stop acting shocked about it.
BTW yes, you should get used to it, because it does and always will continue to happen with ANY piece of software ever developed, not just MMOs. Nothing has ever been bug / problem free at release, and it will always be that way unless people suddenly become satisfied with using severely outdated software due to the time it takes to perform all of the extensive testing, fixing, retesting, fixing again, etc to get something completely bug free. There is a reason why nearly every software in existence is still receiving patches / updates even several years after their release. You simply cannot account for every possible issue that will occur in every situation, and you definitely cannot account for what users will attempt to do.
Originally posted by Vallador I did not play beta so I did not knwo but I was made aware of it right after I bought the game. Guildmates were talking freely about it, some were using it, some not. But the common opinion was that this is a well known issue to Zenimax becasue there were reports of this in beta.
So again I ask why are people just now making a big deal out of it? Everyone is quick to give them shit about it now that it's become public knowledge, yet what were all of you doing this whole time? Where were all these constant complaints that this duping issue exists and it is being ignored before yesterday? You (maybe not you specifically, but your guild mates) were all perfectly content to go ahead and dupe items and go on playing when it wasn't a widespread issue, but now that the dupe has been outed some people are suddenly upset about it. I guess it's cool if a cheat exists as long as it's benefiting these people, but once it gets taken away they like to complain about it.
Am I really the only person who thinks it is ridiculous? It doesn't make ZOS ignoring the issue if they were aware of it OK or anything like that. I'm simply pointing out people's attitudes. It's like watching someone go to a discreet brothel for years, but then the brothel becomes public knowledge and that same person goes on a crusade to get it shut down because "prostitution is wrong" and they're trying to impress someone with their morals. It's like, really... you've been doing it this whole time but all of a sudden you want to make an issue of it now that your secret has been exposed?
I guess the worst part of it is that people actually convince themselves that they were somehow in the right, and not a part of the problem, but now want to act all righteous.
@Bigdaddy. Again, it has to do with people's attitudes. Lots of people who have been playing MMOs for years, and who have been through all of this before in multiple games, are acting like they just got their MMO cherry popped. For some that may be true, but please don't act like that's the case for most of the people complaining in nearly every thread when they have been coming here for years and make the same complaints with every game, but then move on to something new because it's the trendy thing to complain about and suddenly seem to forget that the last game they played also had similar issues. It's not being apologetic (do you even understand the term?). It's simply pointing out a fact. This stuff happens in games. Stop acting shocked about it.
BTW yes, you should get used to it, because it does and always will continue to happen with ANY piece of software ever developed, not just MMOs. Nothing has ever been bug / problem free at release, and it will always be that way unless people suddenly become satisfied with using severely outdated software due to the time it takes to perform all of the extensive testing, fixing, retesting, fixing again, etc to get something completely bug free. There is a reason why nearly every software in existence is still receiving patches / updates even several years after their release. You simply cannot account for every possible issue that will occur in every situation, and you definitely cannot account for what users will attempt to do.
The truth? (imho)
To counteract the hype.
Personally I have no dog in this fight. I beta'd ESO and planned on playing until (to me) the signs of F2P with Ca$h $hop are written all over (between the lines) and I will not be duped.
-But the Fanboys here are as bad as they were in Gw2 and SWTOR. To hear them this was the "Best launch ever" and "no bugs" and "content for the rest of my life" blah, blah...
So when the HUGE bugs (falling through the world and being banned/Duping/etc..) start being brought to light , its latched on BECAUSE of the fanboys who lied and misrepresented (or at least seem to have lied and misrepresented)- I personally didnt have bugs during beta which were 'gamebreaking' but what I am reading about now...
SO year- The reason for the huge backlash is in direct proportion to the fanboys fanboying.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction- Or some shit =P
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Yuppers totally subbed, few bumps no issues beyond that. IMO the graphics are pretty good i play ULTRA settings and sometimes just look around at the cool looking areas. The particle effects on the weapons are good as well as the spells. Some of the NPC's are hilarious, I cant remember the name of the one but he wears a pot on his head? very funny along with others.
Also some folks complaining Tamairel does not have enough color...well the land is suppose to have a dark and dank look to it.
And dare I say how awesome the weather effects are? The crack of thunder has GOT to be a real recording....great sound for sure.
Just to answer OP's question: I unsubbed 7 days ago. I also asked for a refund and still waiting.
Sorry to "derail" this thread but really, i am answering the OP's question.
Stages of a new mmo: 1) It's just beta. It still has plenty of time before release. 2) It just launched. Give it time. WoW wasn't built in a day. 3) We don't need you anyway. 4) F2P announced. 5)Huge influx of players. 6) Look how much has changed. 7) Cash shop is the only thing developed lately. 8) It has been a long journey and we thank everyone who was part of it. Shutting down in 3 months. (Courtesy of Robokapp.)
Yup, already subbed for 3 months.
This is a game with enough to do to keep me interested.
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I totally love this game. Ive been playing since headstart and am still only level 22 and have only 1 char.
This is most likely coz my bags are constantly full and i have to return to town and transfer alot to my mules, takes up alot of time. The one annoying thing. Then again i save up to many mats lol !! Im provisioner and alchemist btw.
The other reason im leveling slow is coz i thoroughly enjoy exploring in this game and doing all the quests. I listen to the great voice acting and try to feel involved. I wander off the path constantly to explore every corner around every rock.
Im in no hurry to reach 50. I Always enjoy the path to max level the most since in most mmo's once you reach level cap all there's left to do is daily grinds, behh, or wait for dungeon groups.
ofcourse in eso end game is a completely different thing for me since i love pvp in cyrodill so i have that waiting for me. Still im in no hurry to reach level cap whatsoever. I simply enjoy the pve content way to much.
The dungeons are awesome i think. Specially after having played gw2 for a long time in which i hated the dungeons. The dungeons in eso are really good and definately way better then gw2's. Dont get wrong though ive played many mmorpg's non stop over the last 10 years. For me daoc was my first and best ever and cyrodill reminds me alot of daoc pvp so i cant wait to have glorious times in that zone.
Since ive played old style games too like darkfall, a more recent game although still a few years old by now, daoc, the first everquest, anarchy online etc etc i love the way eso plays. For me it feels like playing an old-style mmorpg again, finally. I hated the crap easy and boring grab 30 quests and grind and follow a set path mmorpg's that have been comming out since the first days of wow. I hate that in allt hose mmorpgs crafting was pointless. I hated they had an auction house which means everything is readily available for you and rewards or drops mean nothing since you'll Always have better from ah.
Many complain about there not being an Ah in eso but im happy there is none. Having an ah in is like playing diablo 3 with an auction house in which nothing that drops matters since you can Always buy the best. It makes the game boring. Now every drop can be an improvement for me which is great ! Ah's have been a plague to mmorpgs.
For me elder scrolls online has been the best game in many years. It truely is that awesome. However i can imagine the style of combat etc isnt for everyone but like i said im used to it from older mmorpgs and the more recent darkfall.
All i want in an mmorpg is immersion and eso gives me that.
Class depth is awesome too. I can have a completely different build then the guy next to me. You can experiment however you like. There's so many passives and skill lines to invest in, besides the craft skill lines on top of that. Its awesome. On top of that if you want every class can take tanking or healing skills if you want to be any of that.
public dungeons are a blast too. I love seeing others in the same dungeon !! Some quests start in a dungeon and you'r there with others who are on that quest too and then the final part of the quest you are in your solo instance having to kill a tough boss.
The game is also made for experimenting. Plenty people say pve is easy. It is in a sense but thats only when you build optimal. The game has to be balanced so that people that drop alot of points in craft skills or arent going for an optimal build so they can experiment have a chance too. For them the game will Always be a nice challenge and certainly not easy.
The bug do not bother to me to much yet btw. eso is unpolished yes but its very stable for me.
I totally love this game. Its definately the best ive played in many years. Im having such a blast and even after playing a couple weeks i still say in guild chat how awesome this game is !!
If you play this game with the wrong mentallity your missing out coz with the right mentallity its far superior to most mmo's.
At some point the suspension was quietly lifted, in both cases without warning or explanation. Given the chance to access my account again, I quickly unsubscribed and have requested a refund.
I had high hopes for the game and want it to succeed, but they've lost me as a customer and I'm not seeing a future with this company. All I care about now is getting my money back.
I hope those of you who haven't had these problems and stay with it enjoy it as much as I did before trouble struck, and that ZOS gets itself and the game straightened out sooner rather than later.
Good luck!
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Nightblade class has some broken abilties. The UI lags in pvp. Broken quests including main quest limiting access to VR content.
The story is well done enough, but there are too many lacking features.
There are some nice aspects of the game but it seems a lot went into just VO, combat, and the world design.
If you took that away you would have almost nothing left but a simple crafting mini game over complicated by the exp hurdle which ofc is undone when you share crafting with other players (which imo is rewarding exploits. why should crafting reward people who technically decontruct other s crafts? how does that make it any better than drops?)
PvP is quite simple as well. It requires finding your own place in the pvp end game wether it be large group or small group. However it feels limited to just that with no exp reward as well for kills for example. No player bounty, no hunting wrewolves/vampires mechanics, and no traps or player created content for castles.
Also no player housing to reward exploring.
There are some nice features in the game... but im surprised by how little this game has to offer considering their budget. Im not talking about the number of quests/quests chains but everything else and how layered or lack of those aspects are.
For example the costs of mounts and limited bag space. No auction house as well. This makes for annoying situations and of interdependance with high repair costs just from questing which means people have to micro manage their crafts, repairs and other expense to maintain enough money on top of that... meanwhile aoe exp grinders get a quick ride to end game avoiding most of these nuances of the game. (again it rewards groups too much and punishing solo play) And the benefit of reaching end game quicker is that they have access to end game if they are not restricted by the bug and make more money to afford repairs much easier and can ignore crafts by just buying or finding things real quick from aoe'ing huge groups of mobs.
Frankly, I lost trust in all reviwers that these features were not reviewed by others to shed light before purchasing the game. Especially since nightblade as something that has broken abilities was over shadowed by the hype train of others.
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Tons and tons of fun.
Altough some things i am realy anoyed with like going to town again to empty bags and distribute things to my mules wich takes away alot of game time.
The pvp quest turned into a daily was also uncalled for and is something i am realy disapointed with as i loved to level abit trough AvA.
Many bugged quest seems to be fixed now and thats a good thing.
It has to be seen how long people will enjoy ESO, but for the time being i am sold to Zenimax.
I just hope they are going to offer abit more choice then leveing trough questing alone.
Going trough my second alt as i have 1 at 50 and my alt at 26 but no way in hell my third alt is going trough the same story again.
So i hope Zenimax offers me abit of diversion in Cyrodill as currently you just cannot level in pvp and thats a big big nono for me as the pvp is just to good to skip untill V1+
Im curious what your issue is with Nightblade abilities.
People have reported certain abilities not triggering, and hast not having the intended effect of speeding attacks and also marked target not reducing armor.
The class as a single target damage dealer is way too underpowered in the assassination tree.
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I still play, have two weeks left of the free month. But the duping exploit and the way Zenimax dealt with it killed my confidence in the company, so long term commitment is out of the question. MMO is not a product, it is a service and they dropped the ball big time with all the exploit and hack and bot fest that is going on. On top of that they just feed people plain bullshit ("...we recently identified a bug and acted quickly..."). I hoped TESO may become something like EVE Online just in fantasy setting, it had the right server, crafting and economy design do do just that, but the approach of Zenimax to the game and its issues is more of a Failcom- like than CCP.
My wife and I are currently Veteran Rank 2, and now it feels like we hit a brick wall in terms of progression. Not to say it's bad per se, it reminds me of Lineage 2 progression back in it's vanilla days, very long grinding away just to get 1 level (Or veteran rank in this case). The over world instancing to replay from other factions has been neat but it's starting to feel meh to us, the story doesn't feel quite as good as when you were dealing with the prophet in between during your original questing. Either way I find that it was worth our money spent to at least get a good month out of it.
But I don't think we'll be resubbing, we've enjoyed our beta experiences with another game a little bit more. Once they were work out the hundreds of bugs and tweak things around and make werewolf not as useless as it is currently, I'm sure things will become easier to pass along to other folk to jump in and have some good subscription worthy gaming time.
Just my opinion though, I see plenty of people still downright enjoying themselves, the one thing that keeps me pinned at the moment is the PVP.
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Ah. Haven't gotten around to either Marked target or Haste yet so wasn't aware of any issues with those. I have to disagree with the damage aspect though. Perhaps with certain builds and gear it is an issue, but compared to several other builds I have tried with each of the classes I find it to be one of the best. Especially with proper use of Assassin's Blade or it's morphed versions as well as the killing power of a charged up Death Stroke. I do a lot of solo roaming in Cyrodiil and can drop most people I come across before they can do much of anything.
Though I play a NB Archer build, not a melee. So perhaps it is an issue with melee builds combined with the class, or more specifically what I assume most people spccing Assassin are doing and dual wielding.Typically for me a stealth heavy attack + poison arrow + strife is enough to bring most people in PvP down enough to execute with Assassins Blade. Sometimes a couple extra hits are need to get over that 25% hump, but thats usually on more tanky builds. Mobs I typically dont even have to use Strife, or if I do it brings them so low that Assassin's Blade isn't worth using for the Magicka cost.
Maybe it's more an issue with sustained DPS on tougher enemies / longer fights (like dungeon bosses and such), i could see that being an issue I guess. Though if you're rotating Ambush + Heavy attack or Strife I would think it wouldn't be an issue. As far as raw spike damage coming out of stealth you kill things ridiculously fast.
My wife and I aren't even level 20 yet. We don't have a lot of time to play most weeks, and when we do, we take our time.
So I have YEARS worth of entertainment coming out of this game.
Still looking for a lifetime sub option...
I've seen a few people making comments like this about the duping situation. I wonder if you are one of the people who "knew" the duping issue existed for weeks, I mean actually knew it not someone who read the amazon review or some nonsense which doesnt actually show / prove anything. And if so why you and / or others are just now complaining about it and deciding to quit rather than making it a big issue this whole time?
Just seems a bit ridiculous that all of these people suddenly pop up claiming they knew about the issue, reported it, etc but kept quiet about it this whole time and waited for them to fix the problem then raise a big stink about it after the fact. Not only that, but also the fact that people seem to like acting like this is the 1st time a game has had issues with duping.
And? still doesn't mean its ok and should be ignored.
For a lot of people this could be their first MMO. Are you asking us to get used to it because this is something that happens in every MMO? why are you being so apologetic on behalf of Zenimax?
Cool man- Let us know how that works out for you- Your YEARS of content .
That means you wont be here looking for nor discussing another game since you will be far too busy with the YEARS of content that ESO is providing you-
Thing is (in general- Not just picking on you here) many of the same people saying similar things about TOR and GW2 are NOW saying the same thing about ESO. Several people here (currently on the eSO hype train) specifically stated that GW2 is the only game they will ever need because its so great. And SWTOR was going to be one of the deepest and best MMORPG experiences ever... Now they are saying the SAME thing about ESO.
These people remind me of my best friend. He is a good guy and means well BUT he is nearing 40 and has never had a relationship last longer than 6 months... He ALWAYS has a new girl- AND he ALWAYS (as in ever single time) thinks shes the BEST of the bunch, finally the ONE , she is different than all the other women he has dated- During the first couple months when everything is new...Then its "On to the next one"
Can we stop saying how a game is "The best" or "Has sooo much content" until you have at least been playing for 6 months. I have tried nearly EVERY MMORPG out and for the most part they all look great during the first month or two- They ALL look like they have massive content- Yet, to talk about an MMO while at level 20 and praise it for having YEARS of content is just...Uninformed.
-Not saying it does or doesnt (I think not, personally) just saying- Come back in a YEAR and tell us the same. It almost never happens by those who overhype and jump games every few months to hype and praise the next FOTM.
So again I ask why are people just now making a big deal out of it? Everyone is quick to give them shit about it now that it's become public knowledge, yet what were all of you doing this whole time? Where were all these constant complaints that this duping issue exists and it is being ignored before yesterday? You (maybe not you specifically, but your guild mates) were all perfectly content to go ahead and dupe items and go on playing when it wasn't a widespread issue, but now that the dupe has been outed some people are suddenly upset about it. I guess it's cool if a cheat exists as long as it's benefiting these people, but once it gets taken away they like to complain about it.
Am I really the only person who thinks it is ridiculous? It doesn't make ZOS ignoring the issue if they were aware of it OK or anything like that. I'm simply pointing out people's attitudes. It's like watching someone go to a discreet brothel for years, but then the brothel becomes public knowledge and that same person goes on a crusade to get it shut down because "prostitution is wrong" and they're trying to impress someone with their morals. It's like, really... you've been doing it this whole time but all of a sudden you want to make an issue of it now that your secret has been exposed?
I guess the worst part of it is that people actually convince themselves that they were somehow in the right, and not a part of the problem, but now want to act all righteous.
@Bigdaddy. Again, it has to do with people's attitudes. Lots of people who have been playing MMOs for years, and who have been through all of this before in multiple games, are acting like they just got their MMO cherry popped. For some that may be true, but please don't act like that's the case for most of the people complaining in nearly every thread when they have been coming here for years and make the same complaints with every game, but then move on to something new because it's the trendy thing to complain about and suddenly seem to forget that the last game they played also had similar issues. It's not being apologetic (do you even understand the term?). It's simply pointing out a fact. This stuff happens in games. Stop acting shocked about it.
BTW yes, you should get used to it, because it does and always will continue to happen with ANY piece of software ever developed, not just MMOs. Nothing has ever been bug / problem free at release, and it will always be that way unless people suddenly become satisfied with using severely outdated software due to the time it takes to perform all of the extensive testing, fixing, retesting, fixing again, etc to get something completely bug free. There is a reason why nearly every software in existence is still receiving patches / updates even several years after their release. You simply cannot account for every possible issue that will occur in every situation, and you definitely cannot account for what users will attempt to do.
The truth? (imho)
To counteract the hype.
Personally I have no dog in this fight. I beta'd ESO and planned on playing until (to me) the signs of F2P with Ca$h $hop are written all over (between the lines) and I will not be duped.
-But the Fanboys here are as bad as they were in Gw2 and SWTOR. To hear them this was the "Best launch ever" and "no bugs" and "content for the rest of my life" blah, blah...
So when the HUGE bugs (falling through the world and being banned/Duping/etc..) start being brought to light , its latched on BECAUSE of the fanboys who lied and misrepresented (or at least seem to have lied and misrepresented)- I personally didnt have bugs during beta which were 'gamebreaking' but what I am reading about now...
SO year- The reason for the huge backlash is in direct proportion to the fanboys fanboying.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction- Or some shit =P