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So why didn't you resub?

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  • Saio3Saio3 Member UncommonPosts: 88

    I've always thought that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Even stupid ones like "Who cares about what you think? you are just a random guy" Well isn't the whole point of this place to share opinions and thoughts about the thing we feel passionate about(mmos that is) among random fellas?

     

    This said... And I could profile as the opposite of an Eso fan...I'm getting tired of this whole drama, If you read one thread you have read them all.

    Zeni guys messed up and they already accepted that fact and are working on it. I can't point a gun at them because I know what is to like something that most people don't ,Im a(was after mankinigate) funcom fan, And for me the best company out there is en masse entertaiment, Crazy huh? But that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

     

    Most guys with 3k+ post are all "man i'm so burned with mmo's I hate them all and blah blah.... don't you get burned of this? all this drama every day? ...and why can't you tell the difference between than and then???? I digress....

     

    Back to topic. Didn't buy the game(maybe that's why I'm not that worked up) So won't be resubing(?). Though I might try it if they go the B2p route, If they go f2p I would feel ashamed for them.

  • CrusadesCrusades Member Posts: 480
    Originally posted by DMKano

    The Veteran Rank grind is bringing me down, that's a factor for sure. I just don't have any desire to grind from VR8 to 10.... just can't do it. It can be done in several hours through an exploitive game mechanic - not willing to go through it.

    Screw it.

    PvPing from this point til free month runs out, no desire to continue as there is almost no small scale PvP in my campaign, the vast majority of PvP is all very large groups vs large groups.

    The small 8v8 stuff happens once in a blue moon.

    Still as zergy as PvP is its infinitely more fun than PvE in VR ranks which is just unbearable for me at this point.

    So I am looking at questing or zerging - neither has much appeal to me - why I didn't resub.

    In other games alts were a possibility - in ESO it was just horrible, I couldn't stand to do it for more than an hour... the idea of more questing sounded as fun as choking on my own vomit.

    No thanks.

    Thank you for being honest in all you have been sharing about the game. #thetruth

    - I didn't resub because I didn't buy the game and had no sub in the first place. I feel like alot of people were suckered into this one because it has "Elder Scrolls" in the title.

  • ComafComaf Member UncommonPosts: 1,150
    Originally posted by nate1980

    I didn't resub for several reasons. The main reason is I got burnt out. I played no more than 5 to 10 hours a week, but because I rerolled so many times I ended up burning myself out by doing the same quests over and over again. I also burnt myself out on the skill system. Only have 5 skills on a hotbar at any given time was too less for me. In order to create my ideal character, I kept coming up with 2-3 more skills than was allotted to me, and having a weapon swap hotbar doesn't solve that.

    Other reasons include quest bugs, other bugs/dupes, a lot of downtime, gold spammers, and bots. I played several AAA subscription MMO's at their launch and I've never had an issue with past launches. The biggest thing in past launches that I experienced was login ques. Gold Spammers are in every modern MMO, but not in the extreme that they're in ESO. My chat box is non-stop spam for the first 5 minutes I log in, and then they pop up periodically after I spend the few minutes ignoring and reporting the first batch of them. I've seen bots in GW2, Aion and ESO, but I don't remember them being in other games. I'm sure they were, but they weren't so freakin obvious to me. 

    Overall, the game just doesn't seem like it's ready for release. Everyone expect some issues at launch, but not these kinds of issues. These are issues that should of been handled in beta or planned for before the release of the game (bots, gold spam). Instead, they're being reactive instead of proactive. The exact opposite of what I train my employees to be at my workplace.

    So despite finding the crafting and quests highly entertaining and engaging, I ended my sub. That's a shame, because I pre-ordered the game and from the videos and other press I followed, it seemed like a game that'd entertain me for some months to come. So what were your reasons?

    It's a solo linear quest game with zerg pvp as a reward at 50. 

     

    This is so far from the Dark Age of Camelot model I can't even describe it.  I'm giving it a few more weeks because one friend stayed - can't say after that. I play mmorpgs to group - not to watch folks running around desperate for a mob to kill. 

     

    For a solo game with co op options for a few dungeons - it's still nice with voiceovers and graphics.  But what is in this game that would inspire anyone to leave any other title?  I can't answer that.

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  • masterdtoxmasterdtox Member Posts: 66

    after my second month runs out i won't re-sub to this game anymore, i have played the beta, i am lvl 50+ and atm lvling my VR rank.

     

    Reasons:

    -to many Bugs that where known in the BETA and where not Fixed / most of them still in game

    -very bad action House design 

    -loot system (chance on loot if u kill a dungeon boss, u get loot or u get totally nothing, not rewarding enough to even play dungeons)

    -combat animation errors (animations get stuck)

    -no Character Armory (to check ya friends gear give him some tips to improve stats/gear choice)

    -No inspect (inspecting other players)

    -No nameplates ( could have stand near Guild players and i would not know it, For PVE and PVP no name plates BIG failure. At least make it optional so ppl can turn it on off), takes away the feeling actually playing an MMO, more like a single player it feels atm.

    -grouping system LFG totally failure

    -partying system with other players also totally a failure (doing quests, clicking quest's objective's  all need to do it 1 by 1)

    -Reset Skill's system ( if u want respec u need to pay 100 gold for each skill u spend)

    -Reset attributes system ( same as skill reset costs)

    -Veteran ranks makes no sense ( from VR1 till VR 5 3 dungeons where random VR lvl gear drops, not worth doing it unless u are VR5 same for VR5-VR10 3 dungeons not worth it till u are VR10 because of the random VR lvl loot drops)

    -Veteran dungeons chance on loot system makes it totally no fun to play at all ( should have been more like all bosses drop BLUE items and last boss has A CHANCE on dropping EPIC or even Legendary's, sadly this is not the case)

    -after VR10 no fook to do only PVP that gets boring after a while (well the prized crafting system, well that keeps you interested for some time, but that's the only thing)

    - No DUELING in the game ( HELLO ZENIMAX U HAVE LIKE BIG ASS PVP BUT NO DUELING SYSTEM....). very strange this one really. DEV team was too isolated from the world/players that gave BETA FEEDBACK...

    -Still a pain in the a s s DUP BUG Reported at 7 FEB in BETA Still made it into the game.... /facepalm. This one will have a big impact at the community for years to come if they don't changes some things.

     

    last one i know it's far fetched but could be from importance if it is the case:

    - No information given about TRail/Raid loot system (seems like will be the same as for dungeons and best bet on loot is from the chest's)

    - and the quality of CRAGLORN the new content ( i have my doubts that ZENIMAX will succeed releasing this new content BUG FREE or ALMOST BUG-FREE, why?. Because of the current duct tape fixes from ZENIMAX and the capability doing it the right way.

     

    Well that's it i guess, i could have forgotten something but i think this sums more then enough issues up that most players are facing. And plz don't give me the BS talk u must understand ZENIMAX is NEW TO MMO'S, because i don't give a F, people pay sub for a product that should at least be polished enough to play decently not like this BROKEN product. GJ Bethesda letting a newcomer to MMO'S fook up your franchise!

     

    I Love the elder scrolls lore and the art style of ESO but it just breaks my hart seeing it butchered by ZENIMAX like this.

    Sorry for my language i am not the best in it but i guess ppl understand what i am saying here. 

     

  • YatenkaiohuYatenkaiohu Member Posts: 78

    Hi just wanted to say a few things after seeing this.

    I did not buy the game, and played a little of the beta. I realized when I first logged in (thought the start up music was cool) that when there were no physics to the chains, this was just another theme park MMO. Man I was so right.. I saw so many people doing dumb crap in the starter dungeon and you never see people running around in ES games. From then on I proceeded outward hoping it would get better, wrong! The magic system to boot was and is still awful... what happened to all the different schools? This is not a Elder Scrolls game, but a rip off of the Elder Scrolls. 

    Someone mentioned thousands of people playing and having fun, well um how many people still play WoW? Us real minded MMO's who love FFA/PVP/RP/PVE all in one package, have moved past WoW for many years now. ESO was suppose to be a Elder Scrolls game but provides crappy auto targeting, no ffa loot, no house building, every where anyone can go, you will never be the first or few to experience something. Anyone who is paying for this game or bought it should feel ashamed; because it is a disgrace to the holy grail that is Elder Scrolls.

    Oh I forgot to mention I couldn't loot or pick up anything pretty much. So stale, so boring. Zzzz Repopulation is the cure for me!

  • ManasongManasong Member Posts: 208
    Originally posted by Mithrandolir
    Originally posted by Acidon
    Originally posted by Panther2103
    I did.

     

     

     

  • asmkm22asmkm22 Member Posts: 1,788
    Originally posted by ultrastoat

    Another one of these threads? Also did you ask a question and then answer it yourself?

     

    Do you really think that anyone gives a damn that an anonymous internet person stopped playing a video game, or that you don't like something?

    He's not some anonymous person.  This is nate1980 we're talking about.  Show some respect.

    You make me like charity

  • DerrosDerros Member UncommonPosts: 1,216

    The environment and setting just didnt grab me.  The combat was a bit on the meh side as well.  Stories and voice acting were good.  Dungeons were a let down, and im not much of a pvper. 

     

    Wildstar is more my style, more vibrant colors.  Now if only Wildstar had ESO's optimization...... >_<

  • venatsvenats Member Posts: 106

    After the free month is up, we'll be moving back to GW2 for our PvP needs and many already have. PvE we find elsewhere and ESO offered a decent enough single player experience for the free month and 60$ price tag but nothing more than that.

    Ultimately, despite all its boasting, ESOs PvP fails to deliver on much of anything and its only merit over GW2's free offering is larger scale zergfests with worse combat which are of no interest to us. (Seems most of the skill delay issues in GW2 were fixed and that was one of the major reasons we had left.... so...)  Nothing justifies the price tag for this game, the VR grind is unbearable, and alt making feels like punishment for some crime.

  • BelgaraathBelgaraath Member UncommonPosts: 3,204
    Originally posted by Derros

    The environment and setting just didnt grab me.  The combat was a bit on the meh side as well.  Stories and voice acting were good.  Dungeons were a let down, and im not much of a pvper. 

     

    Wildstar is more my style, more vibrant colors.  Now if only Wildstar had ESO's optimization...... >_<

    Though I do wish the color scheme was just a little more vibrant in ESO, I think it pretty much nails the vibe of what they are trying to portray. If it was too vibrant, it would seem silly. It was like when I installed the Jungle Mod for Skyrim. It looked amazing, but I felt like the entire tone of the game changed and I had to uninstall it. 

    There Is Always Hope!

  • hockeyplayrhockeyplayr Member UncommonPosts: 604
    Originally posted by ultrastoat

    Another one of these threads? Also did you ask a question and then answer it yourself?

     

    Do you really think that anyone gives a damn that an anonymous internet person stopped playing a video game, or that you don't like something?

    i give a damn

  • GregorMcgregorGregorMcgregor Member UncommonPosts: 263

    Dear Vino MMOers*,

    Please mind the door doesn't hit you on the way out.

    Cheery bye.

     

    *They wine/whine about every MMO/thing/person/place/space in the time... nvm. ;)

    No trials. No tricks. No traps. No EU-RP server. NO THANKS!

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    ...10% Benevolence, 90% Arrogance in my case!
  • DerrosDerros Member UncommonPosts: 1,216
    Originally posted by keithian
    Originally posted by Derros

    The environment and setting just didnt grab me.  The combat was a bit on the meh side as well.  Stories and voice acting were good.  Dungeons were a let down, and im not much of a pvper. 

     

    Wildstar is more my style, more vibrant colors.  Now if only Wildstar had ESO's optimization...... >_<

    Though I do wish the color scheme was just a little more vibrant in ESO, I think it pretty much nails the vibe of what they are trying to portray. If it was too vibrant, it would seem silly. It was like when I installed the Jungle Mod for Skyrim. It looked amazing, but I felt like the entire tone of the game changed and I had to uninstall it. 

    I certainly agree that they nailed what they set out to do, it, in the end, didnt fit what I was looking for.  Part of my disapointment stems from the other players, they actually seem to take away from the game when im doing a public dungeon of a quest with lots of triggered events. 

     

    Part of the problem for me may lie in the fact that I bought Reaper of Souls shortly before ESO's release, and it made me fall in love with D3 like I hadnt before.  So my interest was dampened.

  • MarmanmanMarmanman Member Posts: 9

    This game is beautiful, has great music and atmosphere, but I'm not resubbing because it feels like another single player RPG with MMO tacked onto the rear. 

     

    No love lost, it's just not my kind of game.  I like themepark MMOs, but I don't like quests that just send you to endless NPCs for a bit more story.  The gameplay is pretty static and most of the stories are uninspired and the few that are really well written and fun are just too few and far between.

     

    And I know that many disagree, but the absence of a public AH is a huge factor for me.

     

    When I first started playing MMORPGs, I was amazed at the persistent world but quickly realized that there wasn't really anything persistent about the worlds.  Quests reset, the same dragon you killed this week would be waiting for you next week, everything reset and was the same week after week after week.

     

    Except the economy.  That was REAL.  It was persistent.  It was a living, growing 'thing' inside this MMO and I couldn't wait to get back on to see if anything I'd put up for auction had sold or if I could buy something I needed when I found a lucky deal.

     

    Anything is classified as an MMO these days, heck, I see Hearthstone has it's own forum and Minecraft still does not.  But it takes more than just people roleplaying on a server to make an MMO. An MMO should create a WORLD, and having a viable economy is an intrinsic party of that illusion.

     

    And before anyone says,  "Yeah, well that's just your opionion".  I KNOW it's just my opinion, I just wrote these very words and why on earth would I be expressing anyone else's opinion?

     

     

     

  • BelgaraathBelgaraath Member UncommonPosts: 3,204
    Originally posted by Derros
    Originally posted by keithian
    Originally posted by Derros

    The environment and setting just didnt grab me.  The combat was a bit on the meh side as well.  Stories and voice acting were good.  Dungeons were a let down, and im not much of a pvper. 

     

    Wildstar is more my style, more vibrant colors.  Now if only Wildstar had ESO's optimization...... >_<

    Though I do wish the color scheme was just a little more vibrant in ESO, I think it pretty much nails the vibe of what they are trying to portray. If it was too vibrant, it would seem silly. It was like when I installed the Jungle Mod for Skyrim. It looked amazing, but I felt like the entire tone of the game changed and I had to uninstall it. 

    I certainly agree that they nailed what they set out to do, it, in the end, didnt fit what I was looking for.  Part of my disapointment stems from the other players, they actually seem to take away from the game when im doing a public dungeon of a quest with lots of triggered events. 

     

    Part of the problem for me may lie in the fact that I bought Reaper of Souls shortly before ESO's release, and it made me fall in love with D3 like I hadnt before.  So my interest was dampened.

    Thats understandable. Everyone has a different preference. I may try Diablo 3 when it releases on the PS4 as that is more of a game Id rather lay on the couch and play on my big screen. 

    There Is Always Hope!

  • ComafComaf Member UncommonPosts: 1,150
    Originally posted by GregorMcgregor

    Dear Vino MMOers*,

    Please mind the door doesn't hit you on the way out.

    Cheery bye.

     

    *They wine/whine about every MMO/thing/person/place/space in the time... nvm. ;)

    It's not a social experience.

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  • sonicwhip2sonicwhip2 Member Posts: 86

    After trying the beta I could not be bothered to buy it in the first place.

    I have tried Wildstar also and feel the same way about it.

    The only games I feel will be huge are Archeage and Everquest Next and please don't automatically think they will suck just because they are free to play.

  • kokujinjrockerkokujinjrocker Member Posts: 23
    Originally posted by cmorris975
    I find the quest-centric nature of the game and lack of a meaningful death penalty to be boring.  Most games these days have these problems.  The game feels like a chore to play at times.  I am just not interested in easy games that tell you what to do and where to go (and then instance everything for you to make sure you have an "ideal" experience).  I want a dangerous world where I make my own way, not interactive bed-time stories.  Needless to say, I did not resubscribe.

    Same.

  • wykydwykyd Member UncommonPosts: 43

    I, too, am not resubbing as ESO feels like a (rather uninspired) single player RPG wrapped in a sub-par MMO skin.

    For example this is the first MMO I have played with no AH (!!).  Although I have never been an AH profiteer I really miss being able to gear up and get spending gold via trading.  And if you think a gimped trading experience via Guild Stores is an adequate substitute then I must disagree.

    Maintaining a suite of addons  lost its charm long ago in WoW - that ESO relies on 3rd parties to supply basic functionality like a mini-map astounds me.

    The game quests are insipid and any immersion in the game repeatedly gets stomped on by bizarre NPC behaviour/bots/bugs.

    If this game didn't have "Elder Scrolls" in the title how many copies would it have sold?  How long before it goes F2P?

    I feel rorted.

     

     

  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    Originally posted by fivoroth
    Originally posted by Rush84
    Originally posted by ultrastoat

    Another one of these threads? Also did you ask a question and then answer it yourself?

     

    Do you really think that anyone gives a damn that an anonymous internet person stopped playing a video game, or that you don't like something?

     

    lol you obviously do because you.....er replied. Eso is just another fail game. plain and simple, NEXT.....

    So because he replied it means he cares? Brilliant logic. If someone tells me something in real life and I reply to say that I don't care, does the fact that I replied mean that I actually care.

    It means you cared enough to give a reply.  Total not caring wouldn't even elicit a response.

    The game feels like it's on rails to me.  One way to level.  

    "We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa      "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are."  SR Covey

  • ChannceChannce Member CommonPosts: 570
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Originally posted by fivoroth
    Originally posted by Rush84
    Originally posted by ultrastoat

    Another one of these threads? Also did you ask a question and then answer it yourself?

     

    Do you really think that anyone gives a damn that an anonymous internet person stopped playing a video game, or that you don't like something?

     

    lol you obviously do because you.....er replied. Eso is just another fail game. plain and simple, NEXT.....

    So because he replied it means he cares? Brilliant logic. If someone tells me something in real life and I reply to say that I don't care, does the fact that I replied mean that I actually care.

    It means you cared enough to give a reply.  Total not caring wouldn't even elicit a response.

    The game feels like it's on rails to me.  One way to level.  

    Are you drunk?

    When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.

  • ChannceChannce Member CommonPosts: 570
    I see this thread as good news, means the ones ingame next month will be the ones who want to play and not flood zone with hate.

    When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.

  • DatLigBoiDatLigBoi Member UncommonPosts: 35
    Originally posted by Octagon7711
    Originally posted by fivoroth
    Originally posted by Rush84
    Originally posted by ultrastoat

    Another one of these threads? Also did you ask a question and then answer it yourself?

     

    Do you really think that anyone gives a damn that an anonymous internet person stopped playing a video game, or that you don't like something?

     

    lol you obviously do because you.....er replied. Eso is just another fail game. plain and simple, NEXT.....

    So because he replied it means he cares? Brilliant logic. If someone tells me something in real life and I reply to say that I don't care, does the fact that I replied mean that I actually care.

    It means you cared enough to give a reply.  Total not caring wouldn't even elicit a response.

    The game feels like it's on rails to me.  One way to level.  

    He cares to not care lol

    It was nice to see someone post the same thoughts I had for the OP buuuuut of course I see a hole bunch of arrogant people / MR. HIGH AND MIGHTY come in to prove a point OOOOH MAN watch out.

    Welp..... Ima gunna go back ta not caring, thank ye ultrastoat ;D

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    NEw MMO company new enigne, new team..

     

    These issues where to be expected....  Espescially from a company related to Bethesda that is allready renown for releasing bugfilled single player games..

     

     

    Most people leaving, are those people that dont like questing, and thats probably the same reason why they left all those other MMo´s too..

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • BillSussmanBillSussman Member Posts: 42
    I wont be resubbing cause of the terrible PVP. Just throw heaps of players together and just watch them go HAM. You have no satisfaction of anything in PVP. Well i don't. I didn't mind the rest of the game. If they ever change the PVP to something smaller and fun i'll probably RESUB instantly. 
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