If ESO goes F2P, why would you play it?

Rusque

Based on the extraordinary amount of hate this game has going for it, even if ESO were to go F2P, why would you play it? If the forums and reviews are to be believed, you are looking at a boring, half-single player, half-mmo, bad combat, poor graphics, no content, quest grinder.

Not counting bugs, because we'll assume bugs are fixed by F2P time.

It sounds horrible, and if I believed a game to be everything that people claim ESO to be, I would never touch it. My time is too valuable to spend playing a game this bad.

So would you play F2P ESO and why?

kitarad

If they fix all the bugs I might deign to play it.

sirphobos

Originally posted by Rusque

Based on the extraordinary amount of hate this game has going for it, even if ESO were to go F2P, why would you play it? If the forums and reviews are to be believed, you are looking at a boring, half-single player, half-mmo, bad combat, poor graphics, no content, quest grinder.

Not counting bugs, because we'll assume bugs are fixed by F2P time.

It sounds horrible, and if I believed a game to be everything that people claim ESO to be, I would never touch it. My time is too valuable to spend playing a game this bad.

So would you play F2P ESO and why?

It may be hard to believe, but a lot of people are actually enjoying ESO, despite what you may think from reading forums.

Creatorzim

I would probably still wait after it goes F2P until they fix all the bugs. I just dont think it offers anything better than other f2p games and wouldnt spend $15 a month.

I still usually still sub for F2P games after I give them a try. If ESO is never going to be F2P then I know I would always have to pay a sub so I would have to make it my primary game which I dont see ever happening. Its a game like LOTRO and SWTOR that you play for a few weeks clearing all the new content and going to your main game again or finding something new.

Ehllfhire

I would not. But I think it wont ever go f2p, too many like it.

abeltensor

I quit the game after playing a decent amount, got a refund even (see the giant flame war that happened yesterday.), there are a lot of really nice ideas in ESO that could be good in a f2p game if they do the f2p model correctly.  For one, its one of the first mainstream MMOs to take a non-class skill system in a long time (aside from TSW and yes i know it has classes but they actually barely matter in the game).  There is also some really nice potential for a decent end game if Zenimax has the time to push out the content because the combat in theory is actually quite well done (baring what i say below).  

Outside of that, i would need some radical changes to some of the basic things that exist in the game right now for me to go back to it even if it was to go f2p: an example being the combat responsiveness and the limited skill bars.     

DEAD.line

Combat, skill system and pvp. Crafting if they fix the economy and lack of auction house. Also, i really want to do treasure map (i suprised nobody talks about them). PVE was a mixed bag in beta, but if it was F2P, i could just jump in and out if i was fealing bored.

Also, updates. While i'm not sold on Craglorn, maybe some other patches could have cool stuff like housing and such. 

abeltensor

Originally posted by Ehllfhire
I would not. But I think it wont ever go f2p, too many like it.

Thats not true, tons of people are leaving.  They didnt even come close to the same sales numbers as other recent MMOs that have gone F2P like Sw:Tor.  Unless some how they have their population grow, which makes no sense because most MMOs see their population drop after launch, then it is almost 99% assured that this game will either go F2P or just be shut down completely. 

Incomparable

I wouldn't play it even if it was f2p. I already wasted time on something that felt unrewarding, making f2p won't increase the lack of reward I feel playing the game.

the only thing I enjoyed was tye questing and for an mmo that's not good since it would mean the game made all extra features for naught since they fell short. For example Pvp and boss fights. Very average.

the only reason I might return is to continue my story since I already haveb5 days played. But if required to grind up to vr 10 to play the next part then I'll gladly pass as p2p or f2p.

deniter

There are better SP games out there than ESO and PvP is not my thing.

I have zero reasons to play it, especially when i've read it's an MMO that fails horribly in multiplayer and grouping aspects.

I'd probably try it if it goes F2P, just like i did with SWTOR.

Raelln

Originally posted by Rusque

Based on the extraordinary amount of hate this game has going for it, even if ESO were to go F2P, why would you play it? If the forums and reviews are to be believed, you are looking at a boring, half-single player, half-mmo, bad combat, poor graphics, no content, quest grinder.

Not counting bugs, because we'll assume bugs are fixed by F2P time.

It sounds horrible, and if I believed a game to be everything that people claim ESO to be, I would never touch it. My time is too valuable to spend playing a game this bad.

So would you play F2P ESO and why?

As long as they didn't go all EA on game restrictions like SWTOR was initially. If ESO's F2P offering was similar to Rift's F2P design, I probably would play ESO a bit for some of the story.

I don't think it's good enough to be a game that I'd play exclusively though - as in the lion's share of the time I spend in gaming.

Nanfoodle

Not in the current state. To get me on board, they would have to make it so my wife and I could team in all content. Also fix the phasing bugs that make people poof all the time for no reason. That would be enough to get me even paying to play.

carpal

F2P to me means they have bled the quick easy money out of the game, now they are going to bleed the game dry and let it die.  Unless its a F2P model up front (GW2).

I personally like a monthly sub game, because generally you see good updates and dev commitment.

If I quit playing, it won't have anything to do with F2P or monthly sub.

rodingo

They could yank the motifs out of the game as drops and put them for sell in their cash shop next to their horse and Imperial race and possibly put adventure zones there as well.  They could probably sell one use chest keys that open any difficulty.  Maybe throw in some more pets and various XP boosts then I think they would be solid.  Maybe add a $5-$9 sub option that gets you access to all of the adventure zones to give something back to their loyal/faithful customers who are helping to keep ZOS's lights on.  I probably still wouldn't play it then, but I think that would be a good start for them.

Phry

With the game in its present state i wouldn't, i don't think the problem with ESO is so much that its a P2P game, but with the state of the game itself, and some of the things that are missing from it. I also don't think the PvE side of the game is good enough yet to make it worth playing, too many issues with all the phasing and grouping, all very well if your a billy no mates, but if you actually want to play with friends there are too many things that seem to be going wrong. When the game is finally fixed, i would like to see it re-reviewed, to see whether those issues are cleared up or not, or if its just a corollary of the game engine itself. Until those things at least are resolved, i wouldn't try it whether its F2P or not.

ElElyon

F2P attracts the worst kinds of gamers.

If they had both F2P and sub I would keep sudding as long as they designed it so that the megaserver separated the F2P people from the people subscribing.

alkarionlog

Originally posted by sirphobos

Originally posted by Rusque

Based on the extraordinary amount of hate this game has going for it, even if ESO were to go F2P, why would you play it? If the forums and reviews are to be believed, you are looking at a boring, half-single player, half-mmo, bad combat, poor graphics, no content, quest grinder.

Not counting bugs, because we'll assume bugs are fixed by F2P time.

It sounds horrible, and if I believed a game to be everything that people claim ESO to be, I would never touch it. My time is too valuable to spend playing a game this bad.

So would you play F2P ESO and why?

It may be hard to believe, but a lot of people are actually enjoying ESO, despite what you may think from reading forums.

well they said the same for swtor and it become F2P, it don't matter if people are or not playing, if they think they can buck more money going f2p they will do so.

 

to answers the OP, arche age will be here when eso decide to go f2p, so I don't see a reason to play eso again, the betas was enough, the lvling pace was ok, that much I give then, it was not like swtor then one weekend I hit lvl 38.

maybe after 2 years if I had anything else to play I could test it for a month or 2 like I did with swtor then move on

Ehllfhire

F2p is the doom of all good mmos. It allows freeloaders and scum into the game that ruin the community.

Viper482

I paid $80 for it and did not play it when I had reason to, so no. 

Got a refund btw so all is good.

Viper482

Originally posted by Ehllfhire
F2p is the doom of all good mmos. It allows freeloaders and scum into the game that ruin the community.

You are implying ESO has a sense of community...which is hilarious.

ElElyon

Originally posted by alkarionlog

Originally posted by sirphobos

Originally posted by Rusque

Based on the extraordinary amount of hate this game has going for it, even if ESO were to go F2P, why would you play it? If the forums and reviews are to be believed, you are looking at a boring, half-single player, half-mmo, bad combat, poor graphics, no content, quest grinder.

Not counting bugs, because we'll assume bugs are fixed by F2P time.

It sounds horrible, and if I believed a game to be everything that people claim ESO to be, I would never touch it. My time is too valuable to spend playing a game this bad.

So would you play F2P ESO and why?

It may be hard to believe, but a lot of people are actually enjoying ESO, despite what you may think from reading forums.

well they said the same for swtor and it become F2P, it don't matter if people are or not playing, if they think they can buck more money going f2p they will do so.

 

to answers the OP, arche age will be here when eso decide to go f2p, so I don't see a reason to play eso again, the betas was enough, the lvling pace was ok, that much I give then, it was not like swtor then one weekend I hit lvl 38.

maybe after 2 years if I had anything else to play I could test it for a month or 2 like I did with swtor then move on

In most cases yes this is true but I think in this case ESO will only go F2P as a very last resort, most mmo's out there do not have a reputation to uphold like Elder Scrolls does. I think the success or failure of this game will have a big impact on their future games.

ESO is not another Elder Scrolls game, its a totally different genre, but most people do not see this so it will affect their future plans to buy another Elder Scrolls game.

I'm kind of thinking this game is sink or swim, no F2P option. Better to go out all together than to create another mediocre F2P MMO.

Although I have no idea what they are planning so who really knows I just hope they are thinking about the future of the series.

Aeonblades

They would have to give original purchases a whole lot of in game bonuses if they expected me to play the game after a F2P transition. I actively avoid 99% of F2P games because of community toxicity and cash grab techniques employed by dollar is the end all companies.

Rusque

Originally posted by ElElyon

Originally posted by alkarionlog

Originally posted by sirphobos

Originally posted by Rusque

Based on the extraordinary amount of hate this game has going for it, even if ESO were to go F2P, why would you play it? If the forums and reviews are to be believed, you are looking at a boring, half-single player, half-mmo, bad combat, poor graphics, no content, quest grinder.

Not counting bugs, because we'll assume bugs are fixed by F2P time.

It sounds horrible, and if I believed a game to be everything that people claim ESO to be, I would never touch it. My time is too valuable to spend playing a game this bad.

So would you play F2P ESO and why?

It may be hard to believe, but a lot of people are actually enjoying ESO, despite what you may think from reading forums.

well they said the same for swtor and it become F2P, it don't matter if people are or not playing, if they think they can buck more money going f2p they will do so.

 

to answers the OP, arche age will be here when eso decide to go f2p, so I don't see a reason to play eso again, the betas was enough, the lvling pace was ok, that much I give then, it was not like swtor then one weekend I hit lvl 38.

maybe after 2 years if I had anything else to play I could test it for a month or 2 like I did with swtor then move on

In most cases yes this is true but I think in this case ESO will only go F2P as a very last resort, most mmo's out there do not have a reputation to uphold like Elder Scrolls does. I think the success or failure of this game will have a big impact on their future games.

ESO is not another Elder Scrolls game, its a totally different genre, but most people do not see this so it will affect their future plans to buy another Elder Scrolls game.

I'm kind of thinking this game is sink or swim, no F2P option. Better to go out all together than to create another mediocre F2P MMO.

Although I have no idea what they are planning so who really knows I just hope they are thinking about the future of the series.

If what people in this (small) thread and general reviews are saying, it might not be worth it to go f2p for ZOS. If the interest isn't there, it may be best to stay p2p and try to cultivate a dedicated community.

Creatorzim

Originally posted by ElElyon

Originally posted by alkarionlog

Originally posted by sirphobos

Originally posted by Rusque

Based on the extraordinary amount of hate this game has going for it, even if ESO were to go F2P, why would you play it? If the forums and reviews are to be believed, you are looking at a boring, half-single player, half-mmo, bad combat, poor graphics, no content, quest grinder.

Not counting bugs, because we'll assume bugs are fixed by F2P time.

It sounds horrible, and if I believed a game to be everything that people claim ESO to be, I would never touch it. My time is too valuable to spend playing a game this bad.

So would you play F2P ESO and why?

It may be hard to believe, but a lot of people are actually enjoying ESO, despite what you may think from reading forums.

well they said the same for swtor and it become F2P, it don't matter if people are or not playing, if they think they can buck more money going f2p they will do so.

 

to answers the OP, arche age will be here when eso decide to go f2p, so I don't see a reason to play eso again, the betas was enough, the lvling pace was ok, that much I give then, it was not like swtor then one weekend I hit lvl 38.

maybe after 2 years if I had anything else to play I could test it for a month or 2 like I did with swtor then move on

In most cases yes this is true but I think in this case ESO will only go F2P as a very last resort, most mmo's out there do not have a reputation to uphold like Elder Scrolls does. I think the success or failure of this game will have a big impact on their future games.

ESO is not another Elder Scrolls game, its a totally different genre, but most people do not see this so it will affect their future plans to buy another Elder Scrolls game.

I'm kind of thinking this game is sink or swim, no F2P option. Better to go out all together than to create another mediocre F2P MMO.

Although I have no idea what they are planning so who really knows I just hope they are thinking about the future of the series.

Because SWTOR wasnt too big to fail? KOTOR is rated as one of the best RPG games ever made. They have the Star Wars name, only the biggest name to ever be. They closed another MMO just so it wouldnt compete with each other.

You think TES is bigger than that?

Nanfoodle

Originally posted by Ehllfhire
F2p is the doom of all good mmos. It allows freeloaders and scum into the game that ruin the community.

This is a misconception from bad games, I have played F2P games with great communities. Everquest 1 and 2, GW2 has some great communities on the 2 servers I played on. Most communities dont start till the game has been out for more then a year. Most MMO hoppers go from new MMO to new MMO never getting to so the community form. 

rodingo

Originally posted by Rusque

If what people in this (small) thread and general reviews are saying, it might not be worth it to go f2p for ZOS. If the interest isn't there, it may be best to stay p2p and try to cultivate a dedicated community.

When games go f2p, it has nothing to do with player interests.  It has everything to do with investor and bottom line interests.