Originally posted by Adokas I think this is the first time I have ever, EVER, seen complaints that a company is trying to improve their game. /baffled
This is like my 300th time.
Aren't you going crazy? xD
I remember WoW patches from when I used to play a long time ago. They were always flooded more with criticisms than "Thank You!" or whatever. But almost every patch note thread I've ever read have had complaints about one thing or other.
So is this a sign that the game is exiting beta? Interesting how you have to subscribe to see what's in it, similar to how healthcare was recently passed.
Originally posted by Panzerbase So is this a sign that the game is exiting beta? Interesting how you have to subscribe to see what's in it, similar to how healthcare was recently passed.
I suggest that you take your politics elsewhere. No one is interested in that discussion.
This is a gaming board.
There are many other sites for you to discuss healthcare.
LOL, Gigantic Patch and the same cry babies complaining that the things they complained about being broke are being fixed....Seriously you can't make up this stuff! I read somewhere that most people who are like this are truly unhappy in their lives, nothing I mean NOTHING makes them happy....pathetic.
Do you see that atronach lady on the first top picture of the article? I'll take that atronach (or a flame atronach) any day over every ugly ones that the Sorcerer currently have. What were they thinking......
All these people hate ESO but yet they click on this thread to bash it MMORPG.com needs to start banning people for trolling because this is baiting,
These people just want the game for free because they are mad they can't afford to play.. That is all. Period, I see this with every game that costs money . Wait until Wild Star, Shroud of the Avatar and other games release we will see the same BS with these games, every game I see the same people saying the same things.
Originally posted by OldMMOGamer LOL, Gigantic Patch and the same cry babies complaining that the things they complained about being broke are being fixed....Seriously you can't make up this stuff! I read somewhere that most people who are like this are truly unhappy in their lives, nothing I mean NOTHING makes them happy....pathetic.
I just hope to gain veteran ranks other then quest grinds... Let me play AvA and gain almost the same exp i would get from questing... Let me run dungeons and gain almost the same exp i would get from questing...
My concern would be....How many more bugs are gonna be created by the new patch? Should be interesting.
That's a good question that's going to be answered by how well ZM has QA'd ESO from the beginning.
If in the early stages of development, they introduced a bug that did't get corrected, other code may be built on top of that which compensates for the bug. Now that gets broken.
For (an overly simplified) example. A component is developed and it's supposed to calculate 4+4 and it's bugged so it gives 9. Later someone takes that into account without looking at the initial code and assumes it's working properly, and needs to make it 12, so he adds 3. Well, now you fixed 4+4 and you get 8 properly, but the code on top of that that was expecting 9, is now putting out 11 instead of 12.
Originally posted by OldMMOGamer LOL, Gigantic Patch and the same cry babies complaining that the things they complained about being broke are being fixed....Seriously you can't make up this stuff! I read somewhere that most people who are like this are truly unhappy in their lives, nothing I mean NOTHING makes them happy....pathetic.
It's because they think they like MMOs, they came over because of WoW, or a friend got them into MMOs. Now they think they're MMO players, but when an old school feeling MMO like this comes out, they have no idea how good it is, so hey QQ.
I've said it forever, MMOs will always be niche. They'll never be like Skyrim or CoD, selling 20-50 million copies. I have 3 simple questions to tell if you're an MMO player. Would you mind sitting at your computer for an hour chopping down a tree for wood? Would you spend another hour taking said wood to town and turning it into planks and then things like spears, shields, etc.? Would you like to play the same game for more than 4 years? If you answered no to any of those 3, you're not a real MMO player, since this is where all MMOs come from. It's like for CoD, you could ask, do you mind dying, a lot? Do you get happy when you hear "Head Shot"? Do you like guns? Answer no, and you probably don't like CoD hehe.
Originally posted by Purutzil The huge patch push to attempt to persaud people to stay (FYI, not saying its just ESO, ALL MMos push this usually in the first 2 months or so). Quite early to push it really for a new launch game, though it does have a LOT of issues to go through that I can see why its being nudged early in hopes of keeping people subscribed.
I don't get comments like this. What should they do, not try to fix things as fast as possible and push content that is ready to a later date? Logic class anyone?
Easy. This is shit that should have been done prior to launch. This should be stuff that convinces us to buy not to stay. The point of the matter is that they released a rather poor game for 60+ bucks and the only reason they're bothering to patch it is because they expect to make 15 bucks a month off us after the initial sale.
Had this been a non-MMO, it would have been laughed off-stage for the amount of piss-wiffle we got for 60 bucks.
Originally posted by Purutzil The huge patch push to attempt to persaud people to stay (FYI, not saying its just ESO, ALL MMos push this usually in the first 2 months or so). Quite early to push it really for a new launch game, though it does have a LOT of issues to go through that I can see why its being nudged early in hopes of keeping people subscribed.
I don't get comments like this. What should they do, not try to fix things as fast as possible and push content that is ready to a later date? Logic class anyone?
Easy. This is shit that should have been done prior to launch. This should be stuff that convinces us to buy not to stay. The point of the matter is that they released a rather poor game for 60+ bucks and the only reason they're bothering to patch it is because they expect to make 15 bucks a month off us after the initial sale.
Had this been a non-MMO, it would have been laughed off-stage for the amount of piss-wiffle we got for 60 bucks.
lol
Just wait for the next single player ES game. 100% of ES singe player games are riddled with bugs, they are notorious for being some of the buggiest games - not only that, many people don't even enjoy them without addons. Yet, they are purchased and praised each and every time. Had ESO been a non-MMO, it would have been received just like every other installation of an ES game, with high scores and people bleating on about how amazing it is.
All these people hate ESO but yet they click on this thread to bash it MMORPG.com needs to start banning people for trolling because this is baiting,
These people just want the game for free because they are mad they can't afford to play.. That is all. Period, I see this with every game that costs money . Wait until Wild Star, Shroud of the Avatar and other games release we will see the same BS with these games, every game I see the same people saying the same things.
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Aren't you going crazy? xD
I remember WoW patches from when I used to play a long time ago. They were always flooded more with criticisms than "Thank You!" or whatever. But almost every patch note thread I've ever read have had complaints about one thing or other.
Yet it is worth your full attention to read up on forums and actually post a comment. cool.
That aside....people actually complaining that they are trying to fix stuff? Damned if you don't...damned if you do.
Now that is a patch listing !!
Holy Smokes !
Must be the largest patch I have ever saw.
I will continue to wait.
http://www.entropiapartners.com/?r=22415
"Is lesser circle still bugged?"
"Yes"
"Is Larder still bugged?"
"yes"
"Lemme guess, Summoner is bugged right?"
"No it works... SIKE, still broken"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I suggest that you take your politics elsewhere. No one is interested in that discussion.
This is a gaming board.
There are many other sites for you to discuss healthcare.
I can recommend some if you are unaware of them.
http://www.entropiapartners.com/?r=22415
"Added additional runestone harvest nodes to all zones in the game."
Thank you. Whenever I found one of these things I got excited because of how rare they are compared to all the other nodes.
All these people hate ESO but yet they click on this thread to bash it MMORPG.com needs to start banning people for trolling because this is baiting,
These people just want the game for free because they are mad they can't afford to play.. That is all. Period, I see this with every game that costs money . Wait until Wild Star, Shroud of the Avatar and other games release we will see the same BS with these games, every game I see the same people saying the same things.
/yawn.
They should've given pre-orderers a free month due to all the BS around launch.
Definately not going to pay just to see the next patch but maybe some day :j
QFT
I just hope to gain veteran ranks other then quest grinds...
Let me play AvA and gain almost the same exp i would get from questing...
Let me run dungeons and gain almost the same exp i would get from questing...
This is all i ask...no more quests ugh :P
Just read the patch notes and all i have to say is, "THAT'S IT?"
/jk
That's a good question that's going to be answered by how well ZM has QA'd ESO from the beginning.
If in the early stages of development, they introduced a bug that did't get corrected, other code may be built on top of that which compensates for the bug. Now that gets broken.
For (an overly simplified) example. A component is developed and it's supposed to calculate 4+4 and it's bugged so it gives 9. Later someone takes that into account without looking at the initial code and assumes it's working properly, and needs to make it 12, so he adds 3. Well, now you fixed 4+4 and you get 8 properly, but the code on top of that that was expecting 9, is now putting out 11 instead of 12.
It's because they think they like MMOs, they came over because of WoW, or a friend got them into MMOs. Now they think they're MMO players, but when an old school feeling MMO like this comes out, they have no idea how good it is, so hey QQ.
I've said it forever, MMOs will always be niche. They'll never be like Skyrim or CoD, selling 20-50 million copies. I have 3 simple questions to tell if you're an MMO player. Would you mind sitting at your computer for an hour chopping down a tree for wood? Would you spend another hour taking said wood to town and turning it into planks and then things like spears, shields, etc.? Would you like to play the same game for more than 4 years? If you answered no to any of those 3, you're not a real MMO player, since this is where all MMOs come from. It's like for CoD, you could ask, do you mind dying, a lot? Do you get happy when you hear "Head Shot"? Do you like guns? Answer no, and you probably don't like CoD hehe.
Easy. This is shit that should have been done prior to launch. This should be stuff that convinces us to buy not to stay. The point of the matter is that they released a rather poor game for 60+ bucks and the only reason they're bothering to patch it is because they expect to make 15 bucks a month off us after the initial sale.
Had this been a non-MMO, it would have been laughed off-stage for the amount of piss-wiffle we got for 60 bucks.
lol
Just wait for the next single player ES game. 100% of ES singe player games are riddled with bugs, they are notorious for being some of the buggiest games - not only that, many people don't even enjoy them without addons. Yet, they are purchased and praised each and every time. Had ESO been a non-MMO, it would have been received just like every other installation of an ES game, with high scores and people bleating on about how amazing it is.
All people hate ESO? <citation needed>