I am so glad I rarely/ if ever fall into these traps.
P2W or F2P with Cash shops I only play as long as what I want to do remains free and it is interesting to me. The minute I hit that P2W wall is when I stop.
DLC has annoyed me ever since they first let them out. I will only play games that DLC doesn't alter the gameplay experience.
Preview "founders" stuff. I can wait until a game is in full release. I find it appalling people will pay for something NOT even full release and full of bugs. I would not buy a car that in the first 2 months I had to take back into the shop for a tune up, or a phone that I have to put update after update on in the first months just to get it to function right. No thanks you get my money when you have a product worth paying for. I did beta testing for a LARGE number of games in the past, bug reports and actively trying to break things, I have no intention of PAYING to do that kind of work.
Probably the greatest innovation the gaming companies came up with in the past 15 years is the many more ways to monetize their payment models. Second would be the simplification of these games to appeal to the broadest possible market.
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Originally posted by Kyleran Probably the greatest innovation the gaming companies came up with in the past 15 years is the many more ways to monetize their payment models. Second would be the simplification of these games to appeal to the broadest possible market.
that picture was pretty much made for the current state of the gaming industry as a whole. Not just people on this site.
That is a very accurate representation of it.
I remember when games launched as a finished product, and DLC/Expansion packs actually expanded the game. Now we have incomplete games, and buy the missing parts as DLC/Expansion packs. Ubi, EA, Activision are the three biggest culprits of these practices for non-mmo games. I cant remember the last time i bought a dlc for any of their games, i vote with my wallet.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Originally posted by DamonVile Wouldn't all that apply to the people not on this site. The people here don't play anything.
Sadly accurate OP.
And ^ LOL.
It's true, people on this site seem more interested in b*tching about how game X isn't the messiah they expected, how established game Y is actually a failure, and how no games are 'true' sandboxes unless you go back to the caveman days and play w/ stones.
Amen to Neb1234 - I tell you all now cling to your older games. They are a better value, they are polished and finished and complete games. This new culture in consumer spending habits is killing any excitement hype tries to encourage.
Originally posted by Crusades Amen to Neb1234 - I tell you all now cling to your older games. They are a better value, they are polished and finished and complete games. This new culture in consumer spending habits is killing any excitement hype tries to encourage.
Older MMO games are only complete because they had several years of content updates and several years worth of polishing. DLC is okay because the cost of the game and hours you spend playing are typically way more than any console game in the first place. Every old MMO is only polished and full of content because of constant updates and improvements to buggy systems. Since gamers now expect all new games to come out as polished and content heavy as the older ones, they're disapointed even if the new games are less buggy and more content heavy than when their older games started.
That being said...there are way too many games out there that use the same exact formulas. That's more of an issue than buggy and small amounts of content in my opinion.
They needed one more image saying "How about we copy the same basic gameplay and just hire a bunch of artists to make it look prettier? Innovation is not important." "Sir...no one would ever fall for..."
Thank you for sharing, nebb1234. That was awesome and as PioneerStew put it: "depressingly accurate".
I've been saying it since all this crapola started gaining momentum a few years back: we're now getting less for more and people do it with a smile. What. The. Fuck!
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Thank you for sharing, nebb1234. That was awesome and as PioneerStew put it: "depressingly accurate".
I've been saying it since all this crapola started gaining momentum a few years back: we're now getting less for more and people do it with a smile. What. The. Fuck!
so true, and what is the excuse for doing it? ¨i have money!!!, you poor peasants, get a job¨....
lol really sad situation......
its not about the money we make, its about the money we lose with this $#%&^@ while at the same time contributing to the ruining of the gaming industry.
this is from www.9gag.com , funny picture uploads, not gaming related, but this popped up and I had to share!
Funny, and sad, because it's true.
Sadder still, is the thought that people will see those cartoons, ponder on how true they are, feel some degree of irritation at it... while buying the next DLC, spending more in a Cash Shop, or what-have-you.
Just another way that gamers are their own worst enemies.
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Funny, people will argue that paying 150 and 20=30 for DLC and more is a good thing. Many gamers are on the side of the companies
I am so glad I rarely/ if ever fall into these traps.
P2W or F2P with Cash shops I only play as long as what I want to do remains free and it is interesting to me. The minute I hit that P2W wall is when I stop.
DLC has annoyed me ever since they first let them out. I will only play games that DLC doesn't alter the gameplay experience.
Preview "founders" stuff. I can wait until a game is in full release. I find it appalling people will pay for something NOT even full release and full of bugs. I would not buy a car that in the first 2 months I had to take back into the shop for a tune up, or a phone that I have to put update after update on in the first months just to get it to function right. No thanks you get my money when you have a product worth paying for. I did beta testing for a LARGE number of games in the past, bug reports and actively trying to break things, I have no intention of PAYING to do that kind of work.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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And people say MMOs are not innovative!
We play the forums and grind post counts.
OP,
that picture was pretty much made for the current state of the gaming industry as a whole. Not just people on this site.
That is a very accurate representation of it.
I remember when games launched as a finished product, and DLC/Expansion packs actually expanded the game. Now we have incomplete games, and buy the missing parts as DLC/Expansion packs. Ubi, EA, Activision are the three biggest culprits of these practices for non-mmo games. I cant remember the last time i bought a dlc for any of their games, i vote with my wallet.
Hey, speak for yourself, I'm currently subbed (with real cash money) to EVE and I also play ArcheAge (alpha)
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Sadly accurate OP.
And ^ LOL.
It's true, people on this site seem more interested in b*tching about how game X isn't the messiah they expected, how established game Y is actually a failure, and how no games are 'true' sandboxes unless you go back to the caveman days and play w/ stones.
Older MMO games are only complete because they had several years of content updates and several years worth of polishing. DLC is okay because the cost of the game and hours you spend playing are typically way more than any console game in the first place. Every old MMO is only polished and full of content because of constant updates and improvements to buggy systems. Since gamers now expect all new games to come out as polished and content heavy as the older ones, they're disapointed even if the new games are less buggy and more content heavy than when their older games started.
That being said...there are way too many games out there that use the same exact formulas. That's more of an issue than buggy and small amounts of content in my opinion.
They needed one more image saying "How about we copy the same basic gameplay and just hire a bunch of artists to make it look prettier? Innovation is not important." "Sir...no one would ever fall for..."
Thank you for sharing, nebb1234. That was awesome and as PioneerStew put it: "depressingly accurate".
I've been saying it since all this crapola started gaining momentum a few years back: we're now getting less for more and people do it with a smile. What. The. Fuck!
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
OP spot on!
so true, and what is the excuse for doing it? ¨i have money!!!, you poor peasants, get a job¨....
lol really sad situation......
its not about the money we make, its about the money we lose with this $#%&^@ while at the same time contributing to the ruining of the gaming industry.
I don't know if it is worse that in reality they aren't swimming in cash by doing this. That is the hope but not the outcome.
DLC, Early Access, F2P... are all common practice.
Funny, and sad, because it's true.
Sadder still, is the thought that people will see those cartoons, ponder on how true they are, feel some degree of irritation at it... while buying the next DLC, spending more in a Cash Shop, or what-have-you.
Just another way that gamers are their own worst enemies.