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[Column] General: The 5 Worst Types of MMO Players

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  • MegeraMegera Member UncommonPosts: 45

    I'm a casual player.  can't say i'm an elitist, because i'll play with anyone with whom i can communicate.  I have met raiders that i detested because i was written off as 'casual'.  'We don't want people who have no raiding gear to raid with us.' ... How do i get raiding gear then?  

    I don't mind, really, because the two raids i was with were pretty horrible.  tense yet boring. I seriously do not care for the few episodes of raiding i've seen - so its all good.  Its not fun so i don't do it.  

    But here's the thing. 

    My lack of raiding gear does not make the game less fun for them unless i insist on trying to raid without it.  And I don't - i don't give a fig about it.  The casual gamers who are annoying are just like the raiders who are annoying - because they are rude, they are inconsiderate, they don't care if  YOU are having fun, they just care if they are getting the part they consider fun and screw you anyway.  There are casual gamers who won't insist that they get to raid and get handed raiding gear. There are raiders who do not insult me and who invite me to join them - but just like i cannot speak for other casual gamers, the friendly raiders cannot speak for the elitist snots who, when the friendly raiders are busy, will make sure to let you know how unwelcome you are in their raid.  

    It all starts to boil down to the same thing, over and over.  Inconsiderate, rude and small, mean people are going to ruin the game for others if you let them.  To some of them, that *is* their fun.  Lording over others, demanding things they haven't earned,  ruining someone's hunting, or just being a dick.

     

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Originally posted by blueturtle13
    Great write up. I am most Irked by Marathon Men. I can not stand being rushed through a Dungeon.I love to experience the game not smash through. I call these guys Hulks

    I call them superficial gamer's with no reason to game other than to say "i did this or i did that".SO many gamer's try to be elitist and try to be or prove they are better than others.That is why i prefer a grouping game that relies on each other,that way if you don't try to work together you ALL fail.The good people are the ones that will take the time to help each other and not worry about time lines.I can't stand people who login and plan to play for only 15 minutes and think everyone else should cater to their time restraints.

    In other words i don't like players who want to play a game like a single player arcade game that is over in 5 minutes.If you plan on playing a MMO+RPG plan on working with others and plan on being friendly and helpful.

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  • Painbringer7Painbringer7 Member UncommonPosts: 121
    Unless there is a way to change human nature?......this post is a waste of time to read.  Just a complaint fest.

    The code of the pessimistic loner: "We unpopular loners are realists, who follow the three non- popular principles: Not having any (Hope), Not making any (Gaps in your heart); And not giving into (Sweet talk)".


  • KonfessKonfess Member RarePosts: 1,667

    Mod, Please rename this article “How I failed to recognize the Bartle Test Archetypes.”

    The Marathon Men, & Trolls are all the Killer archetype.  The image posted under “Know-it-Alls” is the Killer archetype avatar.  This is based on the definitions you used here, and the episode from which the image is taken.

    Elitists, & Know-it-Alls are Acheiver archetypes.  “The Achiever has the opportunity to show off their skill and hold elite status to others. They value the competition from other Achievers, and look to the Socializers to give them praise.”  This taken from wikipedia but is almost your own words.

    *Insert Cricket Noise Here* are Socializer archetypes.  This player can’t acknowledge your existence, because they are socializing over four chat windows, three voice channels, and social media on their tablet and phone.  What you bring to the conversation, just isn’t relevant.

    You didn’t mention the Explorer archetype, because you most likely haven't the patience for them.

    By your comments here you are clearly not an Acheiver, Socializer, or Explorer.  You are a Killer, and I think you should change your avatar and the image under The Marathon Men to the Killer archetype avatar you used for “Know-it-Alls”.  The correct “Know-it-Alls” avatar / image is Hermione Granger.

    Pardon any spelling errors
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    As if it could exist, without being payed for.
    F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
    Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
    It costs money to play.  Therefore P2W.

  • Man_of_LeisureMan_of_Leisure Member Posts: 37

    Unresponsives and Know-It-Alls are probably the worst. No one cares if you don't respond to chat if you know what you're doing, so when we say unresponsive we're of course saying bad players that are unresponsive as well. Its unfortunate that they frequently go hand in hand.

    Plenty of Know-It-Alls in this thread. They're equally insufferable on forums too.

  • k61977k61977 Member EpicPosts: 1,523
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by k61977
    Originally posted by remyburke

    I hate: The Mutes

     

    It's an online game. Say something!

    Just report them as bots, because that's all they are if they don't speak.

     

    It's my right not to talk to you, nothing says I have to.  Sometimes I just want to play by myself but in your logic, I have to play how you want me to play.

    yeah...it refers to people in groups who never say anything. But yes...you have rights and stuff /headpat

    At no time did it refer to groups in the OP post.  It was just I hate mutes, and report them.  I would have agreed about groups.  I don't try and read into post to figure out what people mean so if they mean groups they need to say groups or I will respond every time with let people play how they want and stop trying to make them play how you want.  Until someone else pays for their play time they can play however they fell even if it isn't responding to others.

  • swevswev Member Posts: 6

    its what happens when you mix classical with heavy metal. .. Everyone different. even people who agree here most likely did something that offended another poster here that offended another. and so on.  now you got a troll fest going on and people complaining. one person might be just telling you how to do something. give you tips. next person thinks his a know it all. hey!! look at that troll. nope he was just running away because he was a newb. and learning the game. oh oh I called him a newb! don't get angry!

    PS yes my grammer sucks. don't be a know it all!

  • dragnmastralexdragnmastralex Member UncommonPosts: 29

    also...

    • Wallet warriors - players that think they are better than everyone because they paid to have game content
    • nonbelievers - players that won't believe anything happens in a game without video or a screen shot and calls you a liar if you don't have one
    • fan boys - players that defend a company and its game no matter what aweful or bad thing happens to it and they refuse to say anything bad about any changes made even if it kills the game.
    • greedy ninja looters - players that roll need on everything and take all the loot from runs even if they can't use it or sell it.
    • casual players - those players that do just enough to finish daily content and then leave or log out during a party mission or run leaving you to solo the rest.
    • players without lives - they live in the game and have everything they can possibly get from it and complain that the content is too easy and they get developers to make games so hard that normal players that spend less than 10 hours a day in game can never hope to achieve.
    • griefers - players that do whatever they can to cause other players misery just to get a laugh... like pull bosses locking them out of the dungeon with a long reset timer then teleporting out so that they boss will not reset leaving the dungeon broken til next weeks reset... or player killing low levels at the starting point and camping their corpse
  • FlintsteenFlintsteen Member UncommonPosts: 282

    I can handle most things.  I might kick a ninja from my group, if I notice him ninjaing, but i'll let him off with a warning and explain normal loot behaviour first time.  Me playing tank I can even handle stupid dps that pulls before me and attacks the CC.  If it gets too much i'll ask him to stop and if it keeps on i'll vote to kick or alternatively just leave the group if all else fails.

     

    The only player I refuse to tolerate is the rude behavioured player.  Ok some new player made a mistake. Stop bashing him and get over it.  It's just a game.  Some new player ninjaed "your loot"  Get over it,  it's just levelling gear.  Explain lootrules and move along.  Someone made a stupid mistake in pvp.  Don't call everyone on your team noobs,  be a teamplayer and tell your team how to do better. Theese players are a big part of why I don't like pvp.

     

    These people that refuse to play as a team, when they're in a team ofc., and playing as a team includes taking care of your team and covering whatever mistakes the eventual new guy on your team might make. Then when/if mistakes happen they rage and blame whoever made a mistake. They accomplish nothing exept to get kicked from the group if I'm in it. if it's realy bad they'll end up on ignore.

     

    Yes,  bad player can be bad.  But they're people too.  If your join a pug you got to expect to get a new player or a realy bad player from time to time.  As long as it's just levelling play along and get the best of it. If you cant handle it feel free to leave the group.

  • PioneerStewPioneerStew Member Posts: 874
    Originally posted by Flintsteen

    I can handle most things.  I might kick a ninja from my group, if I notice him ninjaing, but i'll let him off with a warning and explain normal loot behaviour first time.  Me playing tank I can even handle stupid dps that pulls before me and attacks the CC.  If it gets too much i'll ask him to stop and if it keeps on i'll vote to kick or alternatively just leave the group if all else fails.

     

    The only player I refuse to tolerate is the rude behavioured player.  Ok some new player made a mistake. Stop bashing him and get over it.  It's just a game.  Some new player ninjaed "your loot"  Get over it,  it's just levelling gear.  Explain lootrules and move along.  Someone made a stupid mistake in pvp.  Don't call everyone on your team noobs,  be a teamplayer and tell your team how to do better. Theese players are a big part of why I don't like pvp.

     

    These people that refuse to play as a team, when they're in a team ofc., and playing as a team includes taking care of your team and covering whatever mistakes the eventual new guy on your team might make. Then when/if mistakes happen they rage and blame whoever made a mistake. They accomplish nothing exept to get kicked from the group if I'm in it. if it's realy bad they'll end up on ignore.

     

    Yes,  bad player can be bad.  But they're people too.  If your join a pug you got to expect to get a new player or a realy bad player from time to time.  As long as it's just levelling play along and get the best of it. If you cant handle it feel free to leave the group.

    I agree, with this, I can live with just about any type of player as long as they have manners and common courtesy.

    The other day i was playing a SWTOR FP when a player ninja looted.  I said 'can you not roll need on items without your primary stat', and the response was an astonishing diatribe of expletives aimed at everyone in the group.  Of course a kick vote was immediately initated by another group member, but it just makes me wonder what his parents were doing when they should have been teaching him how to play nicely and share his toys.

       

  • mrbowser81mrbowser81 Member Posts: 27
    Hmm trolls so I play Rift alot and I love pvp but the hunters or rouges who wait till your about to kill a guy to take the kill shot and overall kill from you wow really trolls the do no work booooooo
  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433

    Nice list.

    I'm a bit of a know-it-all sometimes. I do like to talk about the" good old times" , though I'm not gonna whisper people about it (never knew people actually did that). I do sometimes whisper new players to give them advice on something if they're making blatant mistakes with their gear, character or skills. Usually only when they're in my guild or group though.

    I can assure you that I don't try to be demeaning when I do that ;)

    Personally I get most pissed off about elitists and the non-reply category. As someone who was usually in charge of creating the groups the latter bugged me to no end, especially when they're asking for a group themselves and you whisper them only to receive no reply (or sometimes half an hour later when the spot is filled, then they get mad).

    Elitists I just can't stand either. Usually because the ones who really show it off aren't actually great players. Definitely not in a social way anyhow.

    Most of the really good players are the sort of quiet type.

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  • elvnswordelvnsword Member Posts: 5

    I agree with all of your points EXCEPT that Fansy the Bard was distinctly NOT a troll. He played on a No Rules server, and played within the accepted role of his class. Aiming only a the people commiting straight barbaric trolling of they're own, or who decided to be homophobic toward his name, a common occurence given the name in question. It was only then that the wrath of Fansy's army of giant monsters would rain down on your head, and the no rules server trolls began crying for a GM to intervene because they felt that Fans was breaking the rules... 

     

    Might I point out the GMs almost universally said "meh" and left, only one asked him to cut it out, so he did... That's not a troll that is the Anti Troll, I like the Anti-Troll... 

  • MorcotulconMorcotulcon Member UncommonPosts: 262

    To me, the worst type of player is the "Stuck in Gaming" one.

     

    This is because it's a type of player that is common nowadays and it's the result of many negative things that happen to them in many different ways. It's common because many of us know how it feels like and, unfortunatelly, not many of us moved on.

    Yes, it is a Fase, in a player's behaviour as a player and a person when the player links his emotions to gaming in a way so strong that you turn into all types of player that have been mentioned in this post.

    Fanboys, Haters, Trolls, whatever type of players they are it usually is the result of them never finding a way to cross over their negative emotions in life and understanding that Gaming is not really their main hobby, but it is their only hobby because they want it to be, it is their safe zone and no one can really hurt them more than they hurt others or even themselves.

     

    This type of player has never gone through a rupture point where they could finally live their life in peace with gaming, a type of player that I call the "Free in Gaming" which never gets upset by what happens in their games but always goes the extra length to have fun and help others have fun in their games.

     

    I'm happy to say that I was the former for some time but I had the rupture point at some point in my life and I'm happy to be the later now.

    Unfortunatelly I still see many of my friends still "stuck in Gaming" (whether or not they work or study) and we can clearly see when they show the ammount of significance they give to every other player behaviour and to every match/situation they have when playing games. It makes their decisions become worst and worst untill they end up blaming everyone else except for themselves and, the worst part, they never put themselves on the shoes of other players and are unable to forgive them for their mistakes.

  • BoldgrimBoldgrim Member UncommonPosts: 69
    I would call your number one "griefing" instead.  Causing grief to someone else for your own enjoyment.  Otherwise, great list!
  • SJStrikersSJStrikers Member UncommonPosts: 34
    Originally posted by Eridanix

    A very good article, in a clear and clean style. This is valuable. Above all, when you are dealing with the most annoying  people on MMORPGs. 

    All these kind of people exxist, evidently as I have met any and everyone of them, just in diferent games, the same game or just the same gaming session together; it means they exist in quantities still not known, someone havve to work a little bit and let us know the numbers; we would be all impressed, and not in a pleasant manner.

    But to some extent all of us are into one of these five categories, in  a slightly  way, but of course don't belong to it, as we practise the essential knowledge that the nature of MMORPKs is co-operative in its foundatuons. And I'm not the rightest person to say so: I'm one of the kind you missed there but, even with  the passing of years we still exist. I'm a PvP/PK type of player, and behave that way even when the ruleset of the game make it impossible. Why? Because for a long time it's been the big all-WoW era were it was impossible for me to be myself, but that's coming to an end. At last!

    I think a good articulist like you could write one big article about  us. PvP(PK's players have a sixth sense to detect if another one is near us.  So we rapdly join, understand the lamentable situation of everything together and start making our day... and yours. It's so funny if you have a good comrade that shares this style with you... and when you are abandoned and solo, then you become to bore and become even worser. But of course we have a clear and rigid system of values, call it ethics that are only aplicable to us and how we interact with the rest of  the world. And for many who are a total different player and dont know how we are, i will say some curious thing, that is culturally valuable: in all the games i have played, the people who were like me, really were like me, it means, we were eager to interact, to create situations, to contribute in the general developing of events and RPG lovers. I dare to say that the 99% of the PvP/PK players like table top RPG games and are seripus people, even when everyone thinks the opposite. But there are much more to discover about the PK population, that in this days is almost non-existant, but we still are there waiting our moment.

    For me the most unbereable and the people who made me sick are the Elitist - not to be confounded with the helping guy thata really wants humbly help you - but the Elitist, and of course the know-it-all. Both classes have as well a sixth sense to detect one another and fast they make lobby, most of the times it works fine, where is an elitist will be a know-it-all, and they lobby just  to ruin the fan of the rest, including mine, as i have faced many time them, and argued with them, and take them down to pieces when the things went so far and begun to be of a bad taste to continue trying to be reasonable with them as if the Elistis is the best raider the know-it-all is the kind of person who will support him til the end of days. They always have clearly positionated against me in games, i dont know why, and in the forums of the said game . name it x -, and its always the same. About marathon man, many times is the elitist or the know-it.all rushing and applying thieir wisdom, and the Crikcet sound i always thought they were some people from eastern countries who were not playing but just making gold or well the authentic self-inducted Autism player, that is only there waiting for things to happen and having no idea of what wre they doing at all, But there are many of them too, and not all are this clumsy; just plainly obsessive and dis-oriented.

    Well, sorry for the wall of text but it was so good an article that i thought it was interesting to talk long about this. You could do a Sequel, for sure, with a good grasp of different players types clearly explained. It would be great.

    Besides your play style there are many other aspects of the game. This article is pointing out the top 5 and I believe encompasses them very well. I kind of zoned out reading your post. I just assumed you were high and rambling.

  • evilizedevilized Member UncommonPosts: 576
    I would argue David, that YOU are the worst type of MMO player, the one that sits around and complains about everyone else. Fansy is a hero and an inspiration to us all.
  • Four0SixFour0Six Member UncommonPosts: 1,175
    Yup. People suck. In other news the sun was up today.
  • crasset15crasset15 Member UncommonPosts: 194

    In my 2 years of playing TSW I haven't ignored a single person. Anything other players do or say can't possibly be offensive or annoying enough to make me want to ignore them. I tend to not get aggrevated at other people. At the end of the day it's a game, and my goal in games is to have fun, not to categorise and criticise people who play differently than I do. If anything, the variety is great.

    Trolls usually bring a smile on my face (the good ones anyway) instead of annoying me. I don't recall ever being genuinely aggrevated by another player's actions or words. And there's been a lot of interesting stuff, such as:

    - certain players in pvp would jump on my corpse and spit on my corpse whenever they killed me

    - people leaving in the middle of a dungeon run without saying a word. 

    - comments such as 'you should have been a blowjob' and 'you are trash, this world would be better if you killed yourself'

    - religion haters, such as "all muslims are terrorists anyway"

    - violent discussions about US gun laws.

    etc etc

  • TaishiFoxTaishiFox Member RarePosts: 999
    I couldn't agree more with this post.  It also reminds me of a player I once knew, of course we no longer talk to each other cus he just pissed me off too much >_>

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  • AstraeisAstraeis Member UncommonPosts: 378
    Originally posted by LovrNoFightr
    Fanboys are the worst.

    How does that work, being a fanboy while in a game? Or do you mean being a fanboy for another game? The latter would be just a troll.

     

    It takes one to know one.

  • furbansfurbans Member UncommonPosts: 968

    In my top five are the supposive "experts" or "critics" such as MMORPG.com, ign, warhammer ect ect who can't look past the "Oooooo SHINEY" and actually review a game judgementally or ask and press the big questions for fear of reprocussions and give games such high ratings when 3 months down the road after launch they do a 360 or everything they praised turned out to be false or not really in the game at all.

    Elitest are far from the worst, they are annoying yes but their the ones the companies rely on for actual feedback and balancing.

    Trolling... pfft, a nuicance.  Griefers are nowhere near the same category as a troll.

    Exploiters are by far the worst, they destroy game features like NWO and the AD market or cause companies to establish a new system in a clean slate that renders some content no longer ran when it should still be going like in DDO's commendation of heroisim. 

    Its peoples' right to not talk to others.  Are they doing their job in the group?  Yes?  Then STFU and quite pushing your values on others.

  • KatillaKatilla Member UncommonPosts: 829
    lol i guess i'm a semi troll because in EQ1 i used to cast that spell that summons a pet as a random npc from the area.  I would just recast until i got a giant and then run towards the people in the zone with it following me screaming "look out everybody run!"
  • AnthurAnthur Member UncommonPosts: 961

    Gold buyers. exploiters/cheaters and people without any manners and no respect for others are the worst MMO players in my oppinion.

    Just imagine a MMO without these people.. ah, nah, never going to happen, unfortunately.

  • Charlie.CheswickCharlie.Cheswick Member UncommonPosts: 469

    1. F2players who whine about p2p

    2. Gold buyers

    3. Elitists

    4. Party/guild invite spammers or chat spammers

    5. Unannounced party droppers

    -Chuckles
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