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Can I make a living just griefing other people?
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2024: 47 years on the Net.
Just piping in to give my personal example of how RL does not have to be related to how someone plays a game.
It's against my nature in RL to harm another creature. The only exception is to defend myself or someone else, which I have absolutely no problem doing. It doesn't even have to be someone I "know" or "love". A victim of unwarranted harm, physical or otherwise, is still a victim and it's in my nature to help those that are unable to help themselves.
That said, although I am much like my RL self in most games, there are some games where I play it completely different when it's based on different rules or supports a "pirate" type of gameplay.
I'm not invested in AA at all myself, on any level. I won't enable a system where even subscribers are limited by "labor points" (regardless of whether or not you can actually run out or not as a subscriber). The reason is simple - this sets a dark and horrible precedent for future games. If this tremendous amount of people support this type of system, others will most certainly take advantage of it in the future. The other thing I dislike about the system is there will be a huge number of F2P people keeping the game client up when they aren't playing just to passively build LP. Why? because this is going to skew the numbers of programs like Raptr and xFire. While I understand that most people discount those numbers anyway, it's still going to have an impact.
So, my response is at a general level. It's not related to AA specifically. My personal example is EVE. That's another game that supports and encourages the pirate/fiend play-style. I have to say that I started out playing that game as a "good person" and learned quickly that without an army behind you, you'll eventually get 'griefed'. I made my first friend in that game when I was exploring and killed horribly because I didn't understand the finer points of fitting a ship. I eventually joined their Corp and made even more friends. I borrowed ships and then returned them when I could afford one of my own, I borrowed ISK and returned it when I was able. Then eventually I robbed those very nice people blind and became a pirate.
Behavior like that in RL is absolutely against my nature. I, however, can easily separate reality from a game like EVE. I still felt bad from time to time, but I did not let that dissuade me from my chosen path as a player of the game.
For those that enjoy data, I'm a 39 year old Male that's been playing MMORPGs since early 2000. I've been gaming since Intellivision, Vic20 / C64 / C128(what a piece of trash) and finally PCs. I owned the first Nintendo, I owned the first Gameboy. I've been an avid gamer since I was 6 years old. I was writing my own adventure games by the time I was 8. There ya go.
At any rate, while I may disagree with the presentation, I don't question the OP's RL nature because of his gaming preferences automatically. I will say that his general attitude in forum conversations could change my mind.
My 2c.
Actually it isnt. And as for the PvP THAT is and the PvPers are more 'carebear' than the PvE crowd.
I played Beta for months once they made changes I never saw a spot where I could get attacked ever. The only time you see one is when you go do the big scarecrow quest, other than that you dont ever have to see a zone where you can be attacked.
With a one way flagging system and the inability to fight back if a group member is attacked makes the majoity of the PvP in this game a joke. Then you have the same faction griefers and ass hats and its no secret why there isnt a lot going on with the PvP.
Its mostly zerg guilds all trying to get alone on some server and dominating others with little to no competition.
As for the OP hewont be alone being a guy griefing others, problem is it will mostly all be griefers standing around with each other waiting for someone who doesnt know any better to come along.
Steals real money from real people. Claims to be against such things in Real Life.
You don't have a case where you can separate RL from IC; you have a case where you realize RL consequences don't apply, so you can do what you'd prefer to do IRL if only society wouldn't shun you for it. It's your 'right', I suppose, but let's not be in denial over what it really is.
if the game was a real sandbox then this wouldnt be necessary because there would not be quests. Since AA is more themepark than it is sandbox, i expect Trion/XL to turn the themepark side of the game into safe sanctuaries (quest hubs). You want to do all the killing and looting you said on your post? go to the sandbox area of the game to do it. You want to ruin the experience of quest driven players, lets see how you would react when they ruin your killing streak with safe zones
Like some have said. I call BS on this whole thread.
If one has to ask if they can do anything in a game, whatever that is. Then they haven't researched anything about said game and making a thread like this is simply to get a desired reaction out of people.
Alrighty Mr. Armchair Psychologist. You don't know me, my life, my circumstances or anything. But hey! You go ahead and believe what you like. I learned a long time ago it's futile to try and prove yourself against someone such as yourself. Everything I said was 100% brutally honest. My RL actions have nothing to do with consequences. People that live like that, only doing right because they are afraid of the consequences of being true to their nature, are in many cases just a time-bomb.
But you go on believing you know people over the internet from your chair. Because life is black and white and belong in either category X or Y, right? You betcha.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
/sigh
The only game I've ever done anything remotely like that was in EVE. I didn't tell the long version of the story of how many times I was scammed or griefed as a naive new player. I know none of that matters to anyone who has never put a good amount of time into that game. I know it doesn't matter to those that judge others based on small bits of information offered on internet forums. Like I alluded to, I am probably the nicest person you've ever met in all other games.
But, like I said, it's futile to argue with those that judge people or are set in their beliefs. I understand and don't fault you.
I knew it was stupid to try and debate this, but in the end it doesn't really matter.
Good pirates never worked alone, and they certainly didn't just kill everyone they saw without question.
....on the 11 page troll thread
people like you are the reason i hate PVP. You give the community a bad name.
PVP is only a curse word to carebears... and care cousins...
I find it odd that while people state they can separate RL from a game. And in RL are nice but in game are totally fine being sadistic and sociopathic. But hey do while insulting people with derogatory terms such as 'carebear', 'baby tears' and the like.
To me that just tells me that they THINK they are nice people but really are not deep down.